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Sunday, 09 February
gettin it right

Life hey? Whats important, what is not? The paths we take the signs we see the decisions we make. Always this endless quest to be right and not wrong. This great cloud hanging over our heads, this constant questioning did we do right or wrong, was it for better or worse?

The problem is we search constantly for an answer - more importantly the right answer. We seek to know the outcome before making the desicion. And in doing so we become fearful because maybe we were wrong, maybe we didnt get the best outcome, the best deal, do the right thing.

It's a mine field out there guys! there is no easy way - in fact show me some one living the easy way and I will point out to you that they are not actually living - they are avoiding, they are pretending, they are sadly fooling themselves.

Life is not cruel, we are. We are too hard on ourselves. We build these magnificant walls around us and then get pissed off because we cant jump them!??? Hello, why did we build them? To save ourselves from what?

From ourselves.

Weird isnt it, our own worst friend and our own best enemy.

My mood is not bleak, I have just had a stark reminder of the frailty of growing up. Of being a memeber of this universe, of forging our own way in a world that is always threatening to overwhelm us. Wether that world be that of a childs playground tiff or a war between two mad men, I must ask is there any diference.

no

the stakes are just as high but unfortunately more people get hurt in one of those scenarios.

Power plays go on every day. It is part of this game we call life. Frankly I love the game but do you think we could perhaps fix the rules? Might make the game more fun and dare I say it better.

Somehow we might just get it right.



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Comments

Paul...You have given great points to ponder. I find I always set my expectations too high and am a little disappointed when they don't quite hit the mark. I do tell myself I am aiming too high. But does it actually help to set goals high so that some progress is made? And where does this lead one? Ah, lfie...what an adventure. Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 9, 2003 08:05 PMfrom IP:

Dear, Dear, Paul!

By stating that you have been clean-shaven lately, I rejoiced, for you have definitely gotten it right, but you haven't changed that picture with the beer, like you once promised..(okay, okay, maybe it wasn't exactly a promise, just something you would think about!) It's definitely time! Don't wait! I'm getting older by the minute!!!

Good morning, Whitney!

Love,

Grannie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 9, 2003 08:38 PMfrom IP:

Ahh Aunt Mil. You don't like beards either huh?

Well sometimes a mans gotta do what mans gotta do (Birdcage?) You did see that right? Hysterical.

Paul.
Your mellifluous rhetoric is captivating and thought inspiring. Dare you definitely may, the games might very well serve the entire universe best if they were changed a bit. If perhaps some equlibrium were brought about for everyone so we could ALL enjoy the journey a bit more. Brilliant thought, but probably a very high expectation.

Gettin it right goes hand in hand with surrendering. Yes we constantly search for an answer or set high goals and berate ourselves for not finding that perfect solution. But it's probably because it's not out there. It's an imperfect world. We're imperfect creatures. We build those silly walls when we should have spent the time reading a book, playing with our kids, making love, listening to music,(watching SB ;) ))or something that raises our spirituality. We have to surrender to the reality in which we live. There is no perfect right answer. There is a choice to be made and we make those based on information we surround ourselves with. If we have good information our choices we lend themselves to the better side. Which is what I think is great about the Pauls Corner. We come her we think, we express, and we share. You never know your wrong answer may be my demi-perfect one.
Dazzling post Paul.
You never said, and of course you don't have to answer, but are you keeping these threads together somewhere? You're a brilliant writer/instigator of thought. You should if you're not.

I love this one...Definitely more to think about.
Peace, love and happiness to everyone
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 9, 2003 10:36 PMfrom IP:

" I have just had a stark reminder of the frailty of growing up" . . . um, that sounds ominous. Nothing too close to home, I hope.
I like that, fix the rules of life. Where would we begin?
hugs,
Sally

Posted by: deltalady on February 9, 2003 11:14 PMfrom IP:

Hello all! Wonderful postings and comments I've been reading. I really liked the last post you did Paul, though I didn't comment. Should have.

This one does sound a little troublesome in one area. I concur with Sally, hoping the "I have just had a stark reminder of the frailty of growing up" wasn't too close to home. And hey, I'm all for fixing the rules in theory, fair play and all that.

Paul's corner has become a morning routine of mine now. Much better than the morning paper. Not as depressing, rather uplifting. My coffee in hand and laptop humming. A good way to start the day. :)

Grandma, I would be excited to see a new picture on the corner too!

Paul, not that your friendly toast isn't great to view, but I will admit everytime my husband sees it he growls at how much you look like my ex-husband in that shot. I think it's the beer and beard combination! *L* Don't get me wrong, my husband is also a fan of yours and has written a response here once, but the computer shut down on him and he lost his rather long post. Discouraged, he hasn't been back. But I'm sure he will!

Back to the Tattoos, I made a very odd bet with my foster daughter when she was 16, that if she didn't give up her dreams, and made it through college, I would be a hip mom and get matching tattoos when she graduated. She is now 20 and reminded me recently that she is going to cash in on that bet soon. Although I'm scared of the pain of getting one, the reason behind it is well worth it!

Take care all!

Love, Michelle

Posted by: Michelle- Nova Scotia on February 10, 2003 12:28 AMfrom IP:

Oh, and I was so excited for you on your chance meeting at the ballet school. Isn't life funny? You were fighting destiny and in the end it won as per usual!

There's a lesson in that one for all of us!

Posted by: Michelle- Nova Scotia on February 10, 2003 12:29 AMfrom IP:

Lot's of thought provoking ideas, Paul.

We can't possibly know the right answer all the time, so we have to practice making choices based on best available information and then let them go. Learning to be less judgemental of ourselves and others is a big task for most of the human race. Becoming more process-oriented and less goal-oriented is very helpful to releasing judgement.

I think that life IS cruel. It's how we respond to that cruelty that determines whether we are, in any given moment, succumbing to it, perpetuating it, or rising above it. I can't think of the film or the actor who said this, but it was well put. The charactor is asked, "Doesn't that hurt?" To which he replies, "Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding the pain."

It's also helpful to see life as a balancing act. To the degree that we're willing and able to listen to our inner guidance system, it can be more fun and less of a struggle. Clearing the "chatter" that distorts and distracts us from our own wisdom, is another huge life task. That's why I find indigenous spiritual practices and Eastern philosophies so much more instructive than most Western religious traditions that tend to emphasize external guidance and rules.

Linda, I think that setting high goals and standards is very important to personal progress. "Pick youself up, brush yourself off and start all over again", is just a part of that process. It's when we set our expectations beyond all reason and we respond to any failure (large or small) with self-loathing, that we become our worst enemy.

While I pray for peace — not only in this current situation, but in various places around the world — I think we are headed for some dark days ahead. Faith is as important as ever.

As for facial hair... My husband and his colleagues are using their's as a barometer of their work status. No work or audition? Grow the beard. Got a call? Shave it. Eliminates the need to answer that annoying question: "So what are YOU working on?" So facial hair for my man is okay. He just can't wear long hair (it would be a 70's Afro), wear earrings (to nerdish for that), tattoos (lacks tan and well-defined muscles). And I will never again buy him disco pants with metal studs.

Shalom, all!

Diane

Posted by: Diane on February 10, 2003 12:35 AMfrom IP:

Two very great threads going on right now! Thank you Paul! As usual a very beautiful and insightful poem on surrender. Naturally it triggered an immediate counter reaction in me "But what about taking a stand and going against the current or at least stand tall in the middle of it—when that’s called for?" Yep, SOMETIMES that’s called for, but not ALWAYS. I’ve watched myself lately and listened to myself just how I think, talk and feel about all the different pressures and demands made on me and my time and the ones I make on myself and I got really angry with myself for wanting to please everyone except myself, for all these insane expectations I have of myself and then feeling guilty about slowing down, moving them onto a more doable level. Thank you Diane for your suggestion of alternating between alternating working in the evening and taking it off. It feels a bit too decadent, but I will try it out, or compromise with working less hours after work and taking some to relax and do more creative things. It really can be a mine field out there, as you put it, Paul, but I also think that I place a lot of these mines out there for myself trying to get it right, setting my expectations too high and then beating myself up when I fail to reach those lofty heights. Will I ever learn to free myself of this and break the vicious cycle? Yes I will! After stepping away this weekend from this frustration with myself to look at the larger picture I noticed areas where I have learned and am learning to be more reasonable, where in fact I’m surrendering my perfectionistic aspirations. It is a start and I’ve begun a journey. Sure I want to avoid the pain at times, but I also want to watch how I learn and grow and learn to love myself more fully rather than beating myself up about it, being too hard on myself and others. Changing the rules of the game, great idea. Michelle in Chicago, thanks for what you said, esp. the "floating down the middle path" part. I like it! Sounds like the healthy compromise and balance that I’m lacking in so many areas myself. We will make it!!!

Another thing, Paul, re. what you said in the Surrender post. I hope that you will get an acting job soon and that something good will come out of meeting this woman serendipitously at the Ballet School. Please thank Andrea for me for making you go along. She’s an amazing woman, but then you already know that, but if you feel like it, tell her that for me as well. ["Hi Andrea! Good going there!!!! :)"] But for now, while you wait, I hope that you can enjoy the affirmation of your enormous skills and talents that are implicit in this meeting. They are interested in you and your skills!!! Not every potential future employer takes the time to express that, as a matter of fact, most don’t. I just received such a gift from one of the jobs I had applied for. I didn’t get the job, but they gave me so much professional affirmation, it feels great!!! I didn’t expect that from an ivy league school which made it even more sweet.

Diane, I think you’d make a most wonderful teacher, you have so many wonderful qualities that far too few teachers have, but I know that you will use these qualities no matter what profession you pick up. Good luck with applying and finding what you want and need. It’s a stressful time, so take your own advice that you gave me, take every other night off and treat yourself to something good. And congrats on the weight loss as well. Yesterday morning I woke up thinking about Audrey. How is she doing? and how are you holding up?

Ann, Whitney, Sherilyn and Diane, you and your families and the family members or friends that are battling serious illness are in my thoughts and prayers.

Love to all. Surrendering to getting it right and finding balance. There's something constructive and productive to ponder for today :)

Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on February 10, 2003 12:47 AMfrom IP:

Oh, one more thing, just out of curiosity, Paul, what was the "only" line that you can quote form Shakespeare? Is there a connection--between you uttering it that day, getting the applause from the empty chairs and the woman showing up & the thing called life with is humorous twists and turns?

Posted by: Evelyn on February 10, 2003 12:49 AMfrom IP:

Yes Paul what is that line? I also thought about that chance meeting and had another thought. You told her what you were looking for...but turn that around...what's looking for you? What types of parts are looking for you? Did she give you ideas in that regard?
Hope you Andrea and the kids are having a great morning. Off to a Tuesday already for you guys. and my Monday hasn't event begun.

Later
tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 10, 2003 03:46 AMfrom IP:

Good evening Grandma!

Thank you Evelyn and everyone, for keeping my family and me in your thoughts and prayers. Paw Paw is doing well. The family has decided to let him try to eat. Last night they were going to keep him on an IV, but changed their minds. This could go either way.

To those of you who pray, please ask for his swallowing ability to stay synchronized and strong if possible; no seepage down to his lungs. To my cosmic well wishers, I love and respect you just as much and have faith in the metaphysical powers of your minds. Please envision him swallowing his food and once again, not getting any matter in his wind pipe.

Forgive me if I sound at all bossy. It's just that I've read it helps to be specific in our requests, when possible. Regardless of the outcome, I accept, but being able to ask a crew such as the likes of you to do this for me is comforting. Thank you again. Sorry this is so long.

Speaking of Shakespeare (what was that line Paul?), I just watched "Shakespeare in Love". I enoyed it very much. Tonight I might get to see Todd Rundgren in concert (showing my age). I have a backstage pass, but I'm not sure it'll get me in. More positive vibes please!

This is an excellent thread and I'm enjoying the posts. I agree with Tim; Paul, back this stuff up if you can. I think Cat keeps archives. Ask her about it Someday you may want to sift through these threads to collects the "jewels" woven throughout. Hey if Maria Shriver and various others can make bucks from such a book, why not you? I'm not blowing smoke when I compliment you on your writing and thinking skills Paul.


Good night Grandma. I love you! I loves ya all!
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 10, 2003 03:51 AMfrom IP:

Talk about hitting close to home.....I am in a rough spot right now with my 13 year old son. He has been "going with" this girl now since October of last year. I decided the first time I met her that I didn't like her. She came to a youth get together with my son, wound up breaking up with him because she was flirting with two other boys there and then I had to sit and listen to her talk bad about my son for the rest of the evening. Since then, they have been on again, off again and (yes, at one point, I really tried to be a good mother and gave him one of the artificial roses my husband bought for me to give to her when they had broken up...I have tried to like her) she has created havoc in my house. She has no respect for my husband and I, she even prank called us one night (I know it was her, I have caller ID) and my son even went as far as giving her a ring that my mother-in-law had given me before she died (without me knowing it) and when I demanded it back she took something and smashed it up. Needless to say, I know it is probably wrong of me, but I don't like this girl. My son is not the same person he used to be. He's like a stranger in my house. I find myself staying so angry at him so much here lately because he is failing school (and he has been an A and B student every year since kindergarten, won awards for academic excellence) he is lying to me and my husband all the time now. I have suggested counseling which doesn't do any good, no one else seems to think this is a serious problem. I have recently told my son that I forbid him to have anything else to do with her and if it continues, I will change schools (since the ring incident). I dont want something that will just work for the now, but for the long run as well. I just wish that he would realize that he has let himself down and would let me help pick him up. People tell me that I should be thankful that he's doing this now instead of when he gets older...but, i just worry that if I dont handle this the proper way, it will continue. Does anyone have any advice? How should I handle this?

Anyway, sorry to pour all this out here, but I will be willing to listen to some advice.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts about my father-in-law...he is stable right now. My husband will be leaving to go back to the hospital to be with him again tomorrow (Whitney, he will be up your way, hope all the snow is gone).

Whitney, I hope your grandfather is doing better.
Take care everyone!

Posted by: Ann on February 10, 2003 04:02 AMfrom IP:

Paul~
I am new to Aus. Film... I must admit having only seen two here in the U.S. I am a little deprived. I was pleasantly moved by the movie 'Strictly Ballroom' and shocked that it did not get more public notice worldwide. That being said I came looking for more! Behold a website! I think that it is wonderful that you are posting to the website often to show others that you have something to say; more than "Just a pretty face."

We crave understanding as a spirit, we crave praise as children, and we crave forgiveness as humans. We blame ourselves for not having an idealistic strength or cunning to beats all odds and succumb to doubt when we inevitably fail to meet that challenge. So why do we do that? Easy- we want more. More from ourselves, more from others, more from life...We can't say the money doesn't matter or that we really don't care what others think. We do and we will always be controlled by the insecurities to even the smallest extent. To be fearful of not matching your ideals is not necessarily a bad thing.

When you got married ~ did you change? Of course you did. Why? ~Because you wanted to be someone good enough for the one you set on a pedestal. You change when you find something you want. True ~there are some that don't change when they become a husband or father... and that is sad. It is one thing to want to remain as cool as you always have been, and it is another to realize how cool the next chapter of your book is.

And sure ~we do beat ourselves up, more than we should at times, but it is our goals and desires that get us through the day.


Here are some quotes I think you or your readers might enjoy:


"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. / You must be the change you wish to see in the world." ~Mahatma Ghandi

"Experience is simply the name we give our mistakes."~ Oscar Wilde

"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." ~Ambrose Redmoon


Gutta cavat lapidem, non vi, sed saepe cadendo. (A drop of water hollows a stone, not by force, but by continuously dripping.)

Hope that wasn’t too sappy and tedious for ya! ~Heather Burdett

Posted by: Heather Burdett on February 10, 2003 04:11 AMfrom IP:

Evelyn, glad to hear you're giving yourself a break in many ways. Thanks for your encouragement and for sending my advice back to me. I've been up since 5 a.m. and speed-cleaning/cooking since about 9 a.m. I'm not close to being done. (Boys and husband off skiing, snowboarding, and reading the Sunday paper, in that order.) My plan is to read and relax after dinner, with no interruptions.

Thank you (and everyone else here) for your concern and good wishes for Audrey. I heard last night that she is going in for surgery on the 21st. I think she's stll too scared to think straight. Mildred is right, though, she needs to maintain some hope while preparing for the worst.

Ann, it's not much consolation, but I agree that it's better to deal with your son's problems now before he's of driving age. I offer the following thoughts with respect: The dropping grades, the lying, and the change of personality sound like classic symptoms of drug use. It may well be that the girl is part of a group that is experimenting with drugs and alcohol. (This stuff begins at an early age these days. Ask any high school kid about drugs on campus.) You are right to try to keep him away from such harmful influences. That may mean you have to monitor his every move for now. But I recommend you find a counselor who can help you approach this constructively. That may mean individual therapy for him and family counselling. His giving the ring without your permission was a really passive-aggressive action on his part. This girl, on the other hand, appears to have no problem acting out his anger toward you. Maybe he wants to strike out at you without incurring more of your wrath, so he gets her (directly or indirectly) to do it for him. Little white lies are to be expected from time to time; but combined with those other issues, I think you are absolutely right to take it seriously. Good luck, Ann. I'm glad to hear that your father-in-law is doing better.

Welcome, Heather! Good observations. And thanks for the quotes. (I need to create wallpaper to post all the wisdom gleaned from this site.)

Whitney, thanks for the specifics on your grandfather. I do find it helpful to envision a health problem and envision it's correction. I will take time each day to focus on that.

My good news this afternoon is that a beautiful, sweet foxhound rescued by a friend of mine has found a home.The animal shelter was on the verge of putting her down, but we got the word out and she's been adopted. Yahooo!

Arghh. Back to work I go.

Posted by: Diane on February 10, 2003 06:03 AMfrom IP:

Today the Universe chose to present an inescapable reality to me. I had cleverly avoided any recognition or understanding of it, until it was forcibly pushed into my face, then I had no choice but to see it. I shouldn't feel deficient that I couldn't see it before, we all compensate in some way. It's usually for our own good, but it does make us blind sometimes. I'm still learning.
It would appear that one of the fundamental needs of all human beings is something which I can never have.
Still, I have other blessings which I believe to be of far greater value. So, I shall do without. It's all that I can do. There is no other choice.

The process repeats:
Sense, feel,
Observe,
Understand,
Acknowledge,
Resolve,
Surrender,
Forgive,
Appreciate,
Transcend.

I think that I am getting it right. Well, at least I'm doing the best I can, which is all that I can ask of myself. That's good enough.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 10, 2003 06:17 AMfrom IP:

BIG Hey to everyone, I just got back today from a long weekend in Gatlinburg Tennessee on a church youth conference! Paul I was very very surprise to read your last two posts! why? because in my conference, all this weekend we have been talkin about surrendering and right and wrong and the meaning of life! I know its deep deep stuff! maybe I can just touch the surface of what I think! but Im not gonna preach to anyone! lol! Ok so on right and wrong! the question to answer is, 'Why is something right and why is something wrong?' well me being a babtist christian my first answer would be that God tells us what is right and what is wrong, that is true but the reason something is wrong is that its wrong! God is perfect therefore what is right is everything that is God. the poem on Surrendering was awesome! surrendering to what is right! I had alot of conferences on that! and I think doing that, and going on retreats like that makes me feel whole when I come from them! like sometimes I feel like something is missing in my life and when I hear about God and all the great things he has done It makes me feel whole! now I know not everyone believes in God or Jesus for that matter, but I do and Im only sharing what I learned over this weekend :) plus its funny that It goes alot with the last two posts!! Facing the storms of live!! it can be so hard but I think the hard stuff is what makes us better people! u can't just be handed something u have work for it!!! ;) Thanks for letting me share!! ;)
I wish everyone a wonderful day!
Much love to all
Kelli*

Posted by: Kelli on February 10, 2003 06:44 AMfrom IP:

Good evening to all!!
Paul, not bad, being at the right place at the right time, hopefully something productive will come of that meeting. You should be thanking Andrea for persuading you to tag along to the Ballet School.

Dad went thru the test with the cardiologist Wed and Thurs with flying colors. He meets with his proctologist tomorrow(Mon.) for a treatment decision.

My DH goes in tomorrow morning(Mon.) to have a rose thorn(we think) removed from his finger. It has been in there since July or August. We have been unsuccessful at getting it out, so a hand specialist that I have used before will go digging tomorrow.

I have another nephew that has decided to join the Marines. He signed up for 4 years active and 4 years inactive. This is the same kid that can't seem to get a job and keep it. We really think he just needs direction. One nephew who has been in the Corps for about 16 months is somewhere in the pacific ocean. They left San Diego 3 weeks ago bound for Hawaii then Japan and possibly the Persian Gulf. He is an electronics specialist on their helicopters and figures they will wind up in Kuwaite. Dustin(latest nephew) won't even see San Diego till July. Nice boot camp weather.

Surrender, Never! I'm too much of a control Freak! I think that is why I don't go to the Dr.'s, you have to give up control because with their knowledge you have to believe they are right and you are wrong.

Working for someone else, where there is someone over you, "In Charge", making all the decisions is to me a form of surrender. I hate having my every move checked. But I have, to because the bosses name is the one going on all the paperwork, so it is his job to check to make sure all the i's are dotted and the t's crossed. I guess the fact that he gets such great pleasure at finding my mistakes shouldn't grate on my last nerve!!! I just tell him that's why he gets paid all the big bucks.

Well I guess that's all from the crazy corner for now, must go get things laid out for tommorrow. We have to be at the Outpatient Center at 7:00a.m. for this little procedure. I can't remember the last time I had to be dressed and somewhere that early.
Hugs all around,
Sherrlyn

Posted by: Sherrlyn on February 10, 2003 08:33 AMfrom IP:

Peter, you lost me with "Today the Universe chose to present an inescapable reality to me." What was this inescapable reality? Perhaps it's right in your post and right before my nose, but I'm not seeing it, but it intrigued me. If it's too personal, ignore my question.

Ann, I don't think I have much advice to give you, as I'm not a parent. However, one thing popped into my head and that is don't push him too hard. He might be in a phase where he's redefining his identity and therefore needs to push boundaries, break rules, hurt the ones around him to find out that no matter what they love him. I'm really sorry that this is such a difficult time for you, especially whan you also have a father in law who is ill and thus the stress levels are already very high for you.

Whitney, I'm glad you asked for specifics that does help. I prefer praying/communicating with the universe with specifics in hand rather than having to be vague. I think the results can be much more specific as well.

Welcome Heather! I like your quotes. Thanks for posting them.

Sherrlyn, good to hear good news about your Dad and hope that all goes well with your husband's hand as well. I also relate to your not wanting to surrender because of being a control freak. I can be one and am in many ways, but surrendering is actually very freeing. Try it out! It's not as scary as I often envision it.

Diane, why are you the one who stayed at home while your three men were in the mountains having fun? Did they at least do the dishes? Hmm, perhaps you need to convice them to surrender to your will every once in a while. Sorry that again I'm returning your advice right back to you, though this time you had given it to Paul.

Hello Kelli, glad you had a good weekend.

Love to all,
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on February 10, 2003 09:24 AMfrom IP:

Evelyn, So sorry, I've gone all cryptic again.
I'll try to explain simply:
I had a session with a health care professional this morning. He explained how a particular situation in my life would generally be recognised as a profound loss. I've never fully seen it that way, at least not at an emotional level (fortunate for me, I guess).
So, it's something of a revelation.

Sorry for my ramblings, I just thought it relevant to Paul's comment. Apologies to all for any self-indulgence.


Paul, I hope the chance meeting leads somewhere good, and quickly.

Posted by: Peter on February 10, 2003 10:36 AMfrom IP:

Evelyn, I wanted the house to myself, to be honest. And I had to get the house in order and food prepared to help the guys through this week. I'll be working all week and long hours, too. I haven't had to keep this tight a schedule in years, and now that everything is under control, I won't be unnecessarily stressed. Next week, we're invited to a Valentines Day party, so I have a fun outting to look forward to.

Sherrlyn, glad to hear good news about your dad. God bless and keep your nephews safe. Sorry to hear about your husband's thorn situation. Years ago when I did floral design full time, I had to have a half dozen thorns cut out of my fingers. Not fun, but the pain went away quickly. Good luck.

Goodnight to all!

Posted by: Diane on February 10, 2003 10:47 AMfrom IP:

How do so many posts get written in such a short amount of time.

I got to meet Todd Rundgren and even got his autograph. Are there any other Rundgren fans out there? He was great!

Ann, having never had a child, in so many ways I'm not qualified to offer advice and for obvious reasons I would hesitate to do so under any circumstances. However, I was a young girl with the requsite hormones at one time so I have a little to say. I'm assuming these two are sexually active. And I agree with Diane; they're probably at least drinking beer, but likely smoking as well. Sex is a drug too so it could be that's all they're doing. If a short-lived obsession is all that comes of this, be thankful. I would have a serious talk with your son about stealing from his mom and also about safe sex. I'm just guessing of course. I hope I haven't offended you.

Interesting post Heather. I too was surprised that SB had gone unwatched by me for all those years. I had heard nothing about it! Welcome.

Gosh Peter, Thou art a mystery. Which disciple had the "thorn in his side"? You remind me of him.

Kelli, what a coincidence. I think most people falter at the point where they have to lose their lives to find them. Giving up your life doesn't sound very appealing if you don't know what the advantages are. Glad you're back!

Sherrlyn, glad your husband's test went well. I hope the service has a positive effect on your nephews.

Thanks Evelyn for the continued thoughts. On the other topic. I agree; surrender can be freeing! And I too wonder why sweet Diane is slaving alone.

Sweet dreams everyone,
Love!!!
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on February 10, 2003 11:02 AMfrom IP:

Whitney,
No mystery. It's just that if I revealed the whole story, it may be viewed as unbelievable, or I might be seen by some as a nutcase. It's neither, I've checked!!! In the least, I would need a small book to do it justice.

BTW the disciple was Paul (Saul). Hope's it not an omen!
Paul's "thorn" was a demon (some say partial blindness) which prevented him from proclaiming his own glory, i.e he could not speak well of himself.

This is getting to spooky for me, better stop now.
How's the exercise going? Please do tell. A little inspiration is always welcome.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 10, 2003 11:28 AMfrom IP:

Peter, never apologise for ramblings!!!!!!!! Otherwise this board would be one long apology with out any other comments!!!

It begs the question - if you care to ramble on at length - what is the scoop.

Posted by: Paul on February 10, 2003 11:50 AMfrom IP:

Paul. Thanks. You're a good bloke (attention OS posters; that's REALLY high praise in Australia!).
I thought I'd dug myself into a hole with this one.
I promise that I'll spill the beans at some point, but, it's just as I've said, it would be nearly impossible to provide the background and detail necessary to lend any sort of credibility to my story, unless a lot of words were written. That's why I'm so reluctant. I've told a few people little bits of it, according to their degree of open-mindedness and capacity to understand what I'm trying to relate. I could tell it in a few words, but it may sound like nonesense, so I won't. When the whole story is told, it seems rather incredible, even to me.
I'm quite determined that if I'm going to tell the story, then I'll tell it well or not at all.
There have been a number of "professional" persons involved in my recent recollection of the events, (none of them were psychologists), most have doctorates or degrees of some description. They all independently and wholly agree with and support my recollection and interpretation of the events. The story is extraordinary in many aspects. At least it has given me some deep insight and explanation of who I am, individually and at a higher level. There I go, unintentionally being cryptic again.
The people I've worked with have been bugging me to write a book about this. Unfortunately there have been a few other considerations, but I'm sorting it out. One problem is that it sounds like fantasy. The other challenge is to limit the impact of it on other persons. It's potentially VERY personal and morally condemning, (but not of me).
Here's a teaser. It involves the following (not in any particular order):
Clairvoyancy, spiritual "movements", memory recall extending prior to birth and "out of body", cultural practises in days gone by,..... I'll stop now.
See, I sound like a nut case already!

Do you think it would make "Movie of the Week"??!!
LOLOL......no, just kidding.

It will interesting to see the responses to this posting. Thanks again.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 10, 2003 12:38 PMfrom IP:

This whole post was started as a consequence of how a freinds child telates to one of my children. It is in my opinion an abusive relationship and one I am not keen on fostering overly much. It is a shame and also hard as the parents - us and them - get on well but to get together leaves my daughter open to this subtle and unfair abuse. We keep a watchful eye and do what we cvan to protect her. It is also part of life that kids are kids and they must learn on there own but with guidance, guidlines and boundaries. It surprises me how kids, mine included, push the boundaries only to know how well protected they are or how loved. It is as though they require that proof - a security blanket.

Ann, I wish you well. I would have no idea how to handle it other then that wonderment of simplicity - talking - comunication is as simple as talking but getting people to talk is not always very easy. Sometime we think it is easier to bury it - but we all know it's not. Good luck.

Sherrlyn, Do you control control or does control control you. And what if I said the ultimate act of control is to give it away. Once you give control away you have nothing left but the freedom to be you. I used to think by being in control I could bend the will of the universe to my will. Through positivity I could make the universe give me what I wanted. Now I surrender to the will of the universe - a positive choice - and go with it's flow and positively affect that which I touch through it's design.

Destiny Faith Living Love

Posted by: Paul on February 10, 2003 12:51 PMfrom IP:

Peter, sounds like it will make a great movie of the week....

Ubducted by aliens perhaps??

By the sounds of it, it is something very un- mainstream. I mean no disrespect by having a humourous go at what it might be but MOTW was your suggestion! lol

What ever it is I trust you are okay. I wish you well and look forward to reading the book.

Posted by: Paul on February 10, 2003 01:03 PMfrom IP:

Ramble Pete!!

"Stark reminder of the fraility of growing up"
The words are so damn good, but what do they mean? I've got to think about this...What do those words mean?

nah whit..you don't sound bossy...you sound like a loving and frightened grandaughter.. Sending positive thoughts...

later all...

Posted by: bluedog on February 10, 2003 01:10 PMfrom IP:

Bluedog,.... rambling Pete....kinda catchy, huh?
Sounds a bit like a C&W singer. I'll work on it.

Paul, Ya gotta laugh. NO, definitely NOT mainstream. I'm fine, really, thanks. I still think about it in wonderment, though. It's been a shaky road for a bit, but I'm cruisin' now, mostly.

To be honest, I don't know if I'll ever write that book. I'm not sure this experience can be told in a meaningful way. I'll have to think about it some more.
I wish it WAS as simply as aliens, Yep, MOTW! ...that would be easy;.... a few hours in makeup,.... a nice shiny metallic suit,....hey, I think I'll change my story a bit. What, that's already been done?
Crikey, the X-Files is all finished... fast running out of options. Damn.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 10, 2003 01:29 PMfrom IP:

- Posts crossing -

ah... the child... how much to protect? when to let them fly? tough question and no answer...

and pete...only if you want to share... echoing m'curio, no disrepect intended... to the contrary, you show great courage and strength

outta here for the night...

Posted by: bluedog on February 10, 2003 01:31 PMfrom IP:

Peter,
I for one one would love to hear you're story as I am very facinated with all the things you spoke of as a "teaser". I assure you that none of it is freaky and it is one of those topics that no one talks about until someone brings it up and every one is not only interested but in most cases, has a story of their own. I know I do. Connecting with my father in the afterlife, having out of body experiences, it's not wierd...it's great. Most people don't see these things in their own lives until it's mention by another person who isn't afraid to talk about it. So when the time is right fill us in.
Sallie

Posted by: sallie on February 10, 2003 03:47 PMfrom IP:

Peter.
Ramble? Dude I should be the king of the rambling road. Paul is completely on when he said we'd all be apologizing if you can't express yourself here. That's why we're here. Tolisten, help, vent, nurture, and provoke spiritual growth amongst ourselves. (which in the book "The Road less Travelled is an indication of our love for one another as humans).
When you're ready,please share your story. What's the phrase no man is an island? The more input you get the more sense it makes. God knows I'm not one to judge.
A belated welcome to Heather. I enjoyed your comments.
Ann..the teenager. My oldest son is 12 and I haven't hit the girlfriend stage yet, and considering his special circumstances I may not, however I have clients telling me daily aboutheir kids. Just the other day a client told me her son has become withdrawn, screaming and shouting at her, stealing her jewelry, all the classic signs of drug use. Sadly it's happened overnight. Not suggesting that this is the issue with your son, but when you do see almost overnight changes. You must take a look at their peers. You may even need to do a tough love route. By that I mean, volunteer at his school a little bit. I don't know if you work outside the home or not, but if you can...do it. When he says he's going out...put on your coat. Where are we going? As for the girlfriend with the smart mouth...she would not be welcome inmy home again. No smart ass teen is going to come into my home and mouth off to me. hasta la vista baby. Period. I would not accept a lack of respect. My kids already know that and that will not change. One last word of advise..Therapy. Do it now..not later. Just some thoughts for you. But honestly no girlfriend of my son would ever come into my home and disrespect me. That would be the end of that period. I'd call her parents tell themwhat happened and say she's not welcome over here unless she cleans up. The son would be pissed but that behavior never has been acceptable and never will be. Nip it. Just my humble opinion. I know it's easier said than done. I do think about you.
Best of luck. Don't give up. He's young and can be turned around. Did you get the ring back? I shein turn broke something in your home? Send her parents the bill. And your son can pay rent on the ring. How many days was it outstanding? Charge him for it. There is a price for every choice we make. Never to early to learn that one. And all about what we've been dicussing, with choices comes pain. And with pain we often learn how to avoid itlater, which can then lead to making better choices and "gettin it right" or as right as we can without being perfect.
Please continue to keep us posted.
I almost did it yesterday guys. I have one more scene to complete in my script. I think if I get another massage this week, my mind will free up again and let the words and ideas just flow to the paper. I'm really feeling good about it. I'm ready to start another one.
Just thought I'd share this with you guys. My wife and I are making a point to sit down and talk twice a day with the door closed to the kids. My ten year old can be heard laughing he thinks we're "doing it". Is that a kid or what? Anyway, we're forcing/persisting at meaningful conversation everyday about what's going on and how we feel. We hold hands and look at each other. it's amazing. It's only short time from the hotel and moving out...but I do love her. She was the passion of my youth. We've grown older together and brought beautiful new life into this world together. The daily communication thus far and albeit short lived thus far, it is however working. We remind ourselves of our objectives. We step back and count to 10 before we just blow off about something. EFFORT. The spa next door to me has the day long vigils for the rich and famous. Well I've been walking each of my clients over to them every day and telling them about the wonders of the place and how great it is. In turn they've been booking like crazy. So I had signed my wife up for day of therapy there and the owner (a friend) said I could pay on it till our anniversay date. Well now she's said I've sent so much business I'm getting it for free. Awesome. And this week I'm doing a market survey for $75 (an hour and a half of my time to talk about cellphones). Then Sunday I do a wedding party. 3 Heads...$300. Yeeha! That pays for the night at the Ritz on our anniversary. Sound good? I think we should do it.
Still working day to day on issues, but I'm really beginning to be more positive. That book was so inpirational. If you haven't read it...you must. I start to get down about where I am financially still(itis looking up somewhat) and then I say..well dumbass..you got yourself here and you're going to have to accept the pain of getting yourself out of thishole. Take charge. You can't just will it away. That's been my problem for years. Just taking charge and steering my ship has been a change. I know we talked a few threads back about treading water and seeing where the current flows. Well I'm trying to set a course. I'm not laying back on a float just looking up at the sky. I'm looking into the distance trying to see some choices and trying to pick the island that will hold my boat.
I've had to start over on the weight thing. All the turmoil had me in a comfort food marathon. The cool part is my wife is actually helping me this time. She's trying to restructure her eating style as well so we can both get this blubber off. A tapping whale in May is not a pretty sight going to be.

See Pete..rambling??? but it feels damn good.
Oh and Paul...what was the shakespeare phrase? You have us all on the edge of our seat..

In hopes of peace...
Peace,Love and Happines to everyone
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 10, 2003 06:45 PMfrom IP:

Pete
Forgot to add...MOTW..definitely starring.....you guessed it Paul Mercurio. So you two should team upand write this thing. Paul is an excellent writer and for that matter you too Peter. What've you got to lose? Nothing!
Write it. Produce it. Enjoy the experience.

I spoke of a rambling road...Wasn't that a song Aunt Mil? Seems I have the sheet music to it. My mom liked it. Nat King Cole?

Later
tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 10, 2003 06:56 PMfrom IP:

Diane...Thanks for your thoughts!

Paul...Thanks for hurling these thought-provoking esoteric essays into cyberspace! The highest form of communication is the discussion of thoughts or ideas; 2) is events; and 3) people. So this site is on the elevated level. Throw in some fun (beard, no beard; to tattoo or not) mix in some kindness, and here we are!

Rock on, everyone! Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 10, 2003 07:32 PMfrom IP:

Peter, thanks for elaborating somewhat more, however, now I'm even more intrigued and hoping that some day you will spill, write this down as a book, make it as the MOTW, whatever. I think you just managed very well to get us to the edge of our seats waiting with anticipation. And as to whether or not your experience can be told in a meaningful way, I'd have to say that's up to you. Perhaps not everyone will understand it, but that shouldn't stop you. Okay, will read some more later, have to brave the pathetically icy cold weather outside (Peter, you want to do a repeat performance of sending some hot weather this way? it worked last time...)

Posted by: Evelyn on February 10, 2003 09:13 PMfrom IP:

Good morning, Whitney!

Timbo, the song is: "Ramblin' Rose" and yes, it was sung by Nat King Cole..here are the opening lyrics..everyone ready? One, two, three..

"Ramblin' rose, ramblin' rose,
Why you're ramblin' no one knows,
Wild and wind-blown,
That's how you grow,
Who can cling to our
Ramblin' rose..."

I've been thinking of all of you..yesterday Elliott and I went to a matinee movie in our new theatre, for the first time. The screen was enormous, and all I could think of was "wouldn't "Strictly Ballroom" look magnificent on that big screen..." The movie we saw was "Monsoon Wedding" from India, and it was hard to understand, being a combination of poor English and some subtitles...the closeups were breathtaking, however, and that's when I thought of Paul and Tara...

I'm still waiting to be "summoned" to go into the big theatre for final rehearsals. I feel that my cast and I are getting the royal shaft...(is that term still used today??)

Love,

Grannie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 10, 2003 10:08 PMfrom IP:

Good morning Grandma! I hope it doesn't get too chilly in FL today. Keep those little feet warm! You're precious to all of us!

Peter, you've certainly got my attention. Write the book regardless of the subject. It sounds like you need to clarify this for yourself. On the workout thing: I'm still at it. I confess I skipped my aerobics on Saturday, but I forgot to pig out on Sunday (free day) so I guess it evens out. I bought myself a pair of pants the other day as a reward. I hate shopping so much; I should use it as a form of punishment! The image in the mirror was gastly, but I know things will get better. Thanks for your encouragement. It really helps to know I have some friends pulling for me.

Tim, I'm so happy to hear about the cool things going on in your life. I have to read this book you're reading! It's had a big impact on you! It sounds like your wife has more respect for you now. Could it be because you stood your ground on the spiritual issues? This is striclty my personal opinion, but as a woman I have to be able to look up to my man. I don't want to be dominated, but I don't want someone I can push around either. I respect strong men with good hearts. Your words made me think of a verse from Ecclesiastes. Of course, I don't have it memorized, but it encourages one to enjoy life with the partner of their youth. Just remember, all passion dims. Maybe you two have enough in common to make it; maybe you don't. Only you know. Naturally, now that you aren't under as much pressure (the subject of leaving has been broached) the stress has been reduced. Whenever I was ready to ditch someone I would start having fights with them until I drove them away. It was easier than actually deciding to leave them.

Ann, Tim's advice sounds right. I wouldn't let someone come into my home and insult me or damage my property either (I doubt she destroyed that ring unless your son saw her do it). I'm guessing this girl has probably been pressured into sex and this really lowers a girl's self-esteem (funny, it raises a young man's) and is usually the beginning of a downward spiral. It would be interesting to meet her parents. And I wish my mother had provided the opportunity for counseling when I was younger. It would be expecially helpful if you did the counseling as a family. It can be expensive, but most communities have a center that provides services at a rate relative to your income.

bluedog, thanks for the positive thoughts. You're a kind hearted friend. You're so quiet. Is there anything you want to share with us? I want to know more about bluedog.

Paul, as you know, I don't have kids, but I was a kid and I know how mean they can be. Is there any way to talk to the other family about their child's negative behavior towards yours? I know you don't want to over-shelter your daughter, but depending on what's going on, this could have a lasting affect on her. Has she talked to you about it or is this something that you see yourself? Do the other people see it? You don't have to answers these questions. I hope it works out soon.

I'll check in later if the Universe allows! Worthy dog has to go out now and it's snowing! Yuck!
Love!!!
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on February 10, 2003 10:13 PMfrom IP:

Evelyn, hi to you too!! I hope you have a wonderful week!

Whit, I know it was a great coincedence! funny how stuff like that works that way! wink' love lots

Paul, I know when I was small and worried over everything from friends to just whether my parents were going to stay together. but it worked its self out for me, and all that I can say about having a abusive relationship with a friend is that its usually jealousy or controlling that person for the feeling of power!

Love to all
Kelli

Posted by: Kelli on February 10, 2003 10:20 PMfrom IP:

hello all, and welcome Heather. Now, in keeping with my self-appointed position as strangest poster on the list..I noticed Heather's comment that Strictly Ballroom didn't get enough public attention. That is true but the film industry did notice. If you will indulge me a short list includes,
1992
Won- the Cannes Award of Youth,
Won- the AFI Best Film, Best Screenplay
Won-Toronto Film Festival People's Choice
Won-Vancouver International Film Festival Most Popular Film
Noms- Paul for Best Actor, Tara for best Actress and Gia for Best Supporting Actress
1993
Won-BAFTA for Best Costumes.
Won-Robert Festival (Denmark)Best Foreign Film
Nom-BAFTA best Film
Nom-BAFTA Tara for Best Actress
1994
Nom-Golden Globes Best Comedy/Musical

And don't forget that Siskel and Ebert gave it two thumbs up!

Ok, enough of that...Peter you have piqued our interest so do tell. I've had a few encounters (demon attacks right Tim?) of a spiritual nature. It is freaky. Certainly can make you think you were on some type of reality altering drug, especially as the years pass.
That's all I have.

Posted by: Innussiq on February 11, 2003 12:23 AMfrom IP:

Oh yes..you got it Innussiq... : )

Aunt Mil..Ramblin Rose...I knew it was something ramblin..besides me. LOL

later guys
Peace Love and Happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 11, 2003 03:25 AMfrom IP:

Sherrlyn, A comment re control:
There is no such thing as control, only the ILLUSION of control. We can sometimes become slaves to the illusion. Fortunately, we can always affect an outcome. (Sounds good to me).
Any thoughts?

Tim, I'm not sold on the idea of using Paul in the lead role for this MOTW biz. You see, the problem is that Paul's far too good looking to pass as me. We'd have to take to him with an ugly stick to make it more realistic!
Very pleased to hear that things are so positive for you. Accept some congratulations for you focus and effort.

Bluedog, Just can't seem to lose the imagery of "Ramblin' Pete - C&W singer". I can really dig it. I'm seriously considering the purchase of a 10 gallon hat and a pair of side irons (tell me, that's some kind of outdoor waffle maker, right?). Hmmm.....

Sally, Thanks for the encouragement. Yes, this needs to be done well. I'll work on it.

Evelyn, Yes, it's up to me to get it right (put it right?).
Re the weather: Gee, I thought I constantly sent hot air your way.

Whitney, I'm sure the image in the mirror was lovely, one small part of the whole. Keep rewarding yourself. Do you have any favourite tracks for aerobics workouts?

Kelli, Gosh, you always sound so full of life!
Keep that faith, it's worth every bit of the effort.

Peace & happiness to all.
Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 11, 2003 03:39 AMfrom IP:

Paul, how does your daughter feel about this other child? Does she ask that you not do things with this family as to avoid contact? As long as she has your assurance that her well-being is more important than even your relationship with the other parents, she will probably feel secure enough to choose a course of action. By that I mean try handling it on her own with your guidance, or let you intervene on her behalf. Kids are kids, but being cruel isn't some God-given right of passage. I'm glad you and Andrea are as observant as you are. To see your child being treated like that must break your heart. I hope there is a quick resolution that lets your daughter come away feeling good about herself.

Peter, I would love to hear your story, whenever you are ready to share it. How are we to grow as people if we aren't willing to read about things that expand our consciousness a bit? I am not afraid!!

Tim, when I made my statement about "floating", I by no means meant some directionless journey. I was describing giving up that need to control ourselves, others, the universe.... All of which resist. The irony being, we think the more we control, the more peace of mind we will have. WRONG! Control (or the need to control), nearly always ends up producing chaos. Not to mention it really wears a person down. I'd rather float than fight.

Ann, I have a son who is 14. He is all hormones, skateboards and rock & roll right now. I totally agree with Evelyn about showing him some unconditional love and really trying to talk with him about his feelings. If that means going to counseling, do it. I wouldn't do anything that might alienate him further at this point. They are still little boys in so many ways, you know? Even though their bodies are telling them differently. Please let us know how things progress.

I went to see "About Schmidt" last week. Has anyone else seen it yet? I'll bet Grandma has. What did you think? I thought Jack Nicholson was brilliant.

Love from Chicago,

Michelle

Posted by: Michelle on February 11, 2003 05:24 AMfrom IP:

Hello All and to you Paul.

I had a rough day at work. There were two bussers(including me) and I had to lift up heavy loads of trash with my body frame of 5'4. But tomorrow will be a better day.

Sara

Posted by: Sara on February 11, 2003 05:33 AMfrom IP:

Dear Ramblin' Pete (hell, anyone who starts a sentence with "Crikey!" deserves his own personal Hello, in my book):

PETER!
1) There is a ghost/spirit living in my son's bedroom. (He's nice, the old guy who used to live in the house)

2)My father's brother SAVED me from getting into an auto accident 3yrs ago when I was sobbing my eyes out during a rainstorm--crying over my father's death sentence of Stage IV cancer--and oh yeah, he died in Vietnam, the week I was BORN.

3) I have seen, with my own eyes, souls being REINCARNATED. (no, this time, NOT all toked up on grass)

4) John Edwards is NOT full of shit (even though he charges $300/per session) and communicates with spirits every day.

Spill it. PLEASE!!! THe suspense is killing me!


Hi everyone,
I've been a good girl and not logged on from home over the wknd. But I have to toss this out on the thread...it's from a book called (ok, Peter, this has to do with the alien abduction thing I guess...;-) "Bringers of the Dawn":

pg. 209 When you give yourself the dignity of your own love, as if you were royalty receiving the accolades of the people, everything changes. No one else has to love you. You are not here to go around gathering love from other people to convince yourself that you are of worth.

Ok, on that happy note...Ann, keep the opportunity to talk to your son available. Paul, good going on handling your situation as a parent. I have NO idea how I'm going to be able to do that, when my eldest (5) bawls when it looks like he might lose a game...and we've just barely started most times! Ergh...damned kids. Break my bleedin' heart, those ones...

Ok, I've gone elipses crazy (Evelyn, throw your thesis at me! hahahaha...hi girl!)

Oh, excercise--haven't done jack, except sledding in three weeks. I'm no longer sick, just haven't made the time. So somebody KICK me, please!

Smooches,
Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on February 11, 2003 05:35 AMfrom IP:

Kick, kick, kick,Dhiana!

Lots of great thoughts flying around in here!

Sara, sorry you had a rough day. Dont forget, lift with your legs not your back. It seems easy to lift with your back when you're young, but once you hurt yourself you may never be able to fix it.

Michelle, great thoughts on Paul's concern. Are you into psychology or a mom or both? How can Ann avoid allienating her son and still have an effect on his behavior? I guess positive reinforcement when he talks openly with her would help. Someone said it: communications critical.

That was a kind thing to say Peter. When I do jump on that trainer for a workout, I'm usually watching a DVD. Millie's subtitle idea allows me to read what I can't hear over the machine.

Innussiq knows her SB info! I had no idea that it received that sort of recognition, though it obviously deserved every bit of it!

Hey Tim! $100 bucks a head? I'm in the wrong business!

Kelli, it's good that we have your youthful input. You can remember more clearly the perspective Paul's daughter is looking from.

Things to do. Things to not do. I did put up a shelf today! I still need to workout though. Kick me please!
oxoxoxoxoxox

Posted by: Whitney on February 11, 2003 06:27 AMfrom IP:

Dear Michelle-in-Chicago,

Yes, we saw "About Schmidt" and loved it, even though it hit close to home, being it was about the plight of some retirees today...you note that I say, "some retirees!" You heard it here, that Jack Nicholson will cop another Oscar for this role...brilliant is the word, also, unbelievable, not like the Nicholson of old.

The scene with Katy Bates in the hot tub will be a classic some day, fodder for Jay Leno or the other late night comedians....she gave me a "lift"...no comparison, thank goodness, but maybe scary for young people that hate the word "aging."

Love,

Grannie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 11, 2003 06:33 AMfrom IP:

Dear Michelle-in-Chicago,

Yes, we saw "About Schmidt" and loved it, even though it hit close to home, being it was about the plight of some retirees today...you note that I say, "some retirees!" You heard it here, that Jack Nicholson will cop another Oscar for this role...brilliant is the word, also, unbelievable, not like the Nicholson of old.

The scene with Katy Bates in the hot tub will be a classic some day, fodder for Jay Leno or the other late night comedians....she gave me a "lift"...no comparison, thank goodness, but maybe scary for young people that hate the word "aging."

Love,

Grannie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 11, 2003 06:34 AMfrom IP:

Dear Michelle-in-Chicago,

Yes, we saw "About Schmidt" and loved it, even though it hit close to home, being it was about the plight of some retirees today...you note that I say, "some retirees!" You heard it here, that Jack Nicholson will cop another Oscar for this role...brilliant is the word, also, unbelievable, not like the Nicholson of old.

The scene with Katy Bates in the hot tub will be a classic some day, fodder for Jay Leno or the other late night comedians....she gave me a "lift"...no comparison, thank goodness, but maybe scary for young people that hate the word "aging."

Love,

Grannie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 11, 2003 06:34 AMfrom IP:

Dhiana,
Crikey! (Hey, I don't like to dissapoint).

Your accounts are compelling and persuasive.
I am still concerned that I need to be able to put it all into context, but I'll divulge a small part.
(Meaning: I'll spill my guts just a little).

Dear all,
Here's a SMALL but very relevant part:
This ties into the current thread re parental responsibility.
I won't go into detail how I know the following. I can only assure that it's actual, real memory. Several "experts" from different fields have concurred with this and believe it to be so.
The real life, concurrent events also serve to collaborate the truth and accuracy of the events, as recalled by myself.

Prior to my birth, all of my time in-utero, commencing at eight weeks after conception, was spent facing the challenge of constant attack from the person carrying me. This presented in the form of transfered anxiety, a botched abortion attempt, an inability to appropriate the nourishment I required, and an ongoing chemical attack via my birthmother's drug taking.
Simply put, I was dying slowly. My phychological responses had altered to try to protect me. My emotional fear response had frozen, and my physiology was permanently switched to survival mode. It seems that it was effective. Unfortunately, some of it has not yet "switched off" again. I make do by other means.
There was constant pain. I fought and I fought and I fought, but I was still dying. I had been completely overwhelmed and I was powerless to defend myself against the attack, even though I kicked and pushed incessantly. I can still hear my screams, though I could make no sound.

Just before I was born (prematurely), I died.
At least, this is the only way to explain it.
There was an expanding light, white in colour, with a tinge of blue.
I went to a place where there was a boundless consciousness. The consciousness presented itself to me in the form of Jesus. (Yeh, sure stop right there!!) There was no mistaking who it was meant to be. Long hair, beard, kind face, just as I myself might imagine him to look like.
Let me add, that when I was recalling this memory under regression (no drugs, no hypnosis, only an energy balance), I got to this point and thought "bullshit!", but I can explain this by my adult mind interpretting this in a way that it (my mind) can understand. Oh, make no mistake, this vision was clear. I could see it (still regressed) with my eyes closed or wide open! It was all happening again for me to see, and feel. I saw and FELT every part of it!
Let me add further, that there was no interaction or influence by any other person at the time I had regressed. The memory regression was something that my mind had initiated through it's own need, I believe. Mind you, it was TOTALLY unexpected.
The figure of Jesus reached out to me. I was drawn up into the higher consciousness, becoming one with it, and immediately felt an overwhelming sense of joy and power.
The consciousness spoke to me and said: "you can use all of your potential abilities to do what you have to do". This related back to thoughts that I had some months before; that I had to "do something", but I did not know what it (the "something") was. Hell, I only knew darkness and little else at that time.
My next memory was of being born. It was not pleasant and I spent the next few weeks being treated with drugs to lessen the pain of withdrawal from my birthmother's addiction.
Some time later, I believe at about six weeks, I felt much better. I then realised what it was "that I had to do". It was an important realisation. I was no longer helpless.
For the first time, I was able to relate to an environment that allowed me to interact.
This thing "that I had to do" was simply to survive. I succeded.
I believe some people call this "divine intervention". Call it what you like, but now that I am able to remember this, no single detail will ever be forgotten.

So there you have it, a small part of the story at least. Call me crazy if you wish, but this is genuine memory that had no sources in preconceptions or assumptions, or prior knowledge, or any other thing than I could conceivably use to extrapolate or to imagine what I have related. Yes, I believe that I am a very level-headed, strongly left brained individual without any specific strong religious beliefs.
Spiritual beliefs - certainly.

Oh boy, I'm a little flattened by that, and not entirely sure that I've done a good job of telling this. I apologise for the "robotic" nature of the story telling, but it's where my mind automatically switches when I relate such matters.
No more mystery. It's easy to understand, in light of it all, why I so genuinely consider myself to be fortunate without bounds. I think that's all I'll tell.
Thanks for "listening". I appreciate your kindness. I'll post this now before I change my mind.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 11, 2003 07:07 AMfrom IP:

Three words for Peter..

I believe you.

Posted by: Innussiq on February 11, 2003 07:18 AMfrom IP:

Peter, I'm so glad you told us your story. I would love to be regressed. If writing about it tired you I can imagine the actual regression was both physically and mentally exhausting. What a wonderful story your life is! Such triumph over adversity! I would love to hear more.

Whitney, I am a mom. I'm just trying to give support based on my experiences. All kids are different though.

Grandma, I thought Kathy Bates was so good! I wish her part had been bigger. The commercials for the movie played up all the comedic parts, making me think this was a straight out comedy. I was a little surprised at the despair and sadness of his life. We talked afterwards about how so many people live life that way, unconsciously, and wake up one day and realize they don't know the person they've been married to for 40 years. I, too, loved the movie.

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 11, 2003 08:12 AMfrom IP:

Peter, I totally believe you as well and you are definitely NOT nuts!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing this. I think it's amazing that you have these memories and thanks for not letting these difficult beginnings of your life pull you under. I'm really glad that you are such a surviver and also to have met you and I hope you will write this up as a book at some point in time. I'd love to hear the whole story. On a lighter note, thanks for the hot air, I guess you can't always win against the blast of arctic air that we get from the North Pole. To show my appreciation, on both accounts, here's a hug ((((()))) and a kiss for each cheek --hmmm who does one transliterate the sound of a kiss???--perhaps mmmmppuuuhhhh (no clue, sorry that's the best I can come up with today--Help.... :-)).

Whitney, don't feel bad about skipping a day of exercise, I skipped three in a row last week and I'm not feeling guilty one bit. Simply didn't have the energy and being sick on top of it all, what can I do. Did enjoy it even more yesterday and today, though. Here's your kick for the second month work out, one for Peter and a few for Dhiana (to get you started, maybe throwing my thesis at you might get you moving, 300 + pages can be rather heavy ... don't tempt me, can you tell I love elipses as well, don't get to use them in my professional writing much, I guess I make up for it here :) [great quote from "bringers of dawn" Thank you! if only I could keep up with all the wonderfull book suggestions on this board])--Whitney's KICK, Peter's KICK, Dhiana's KICK, KICK, KICK + 300 pages of paper!!! Lovely image conjuring up in my mind :)

Diane, I didn't mean to step on your toes or anything with my comments. I totally can relate to wanting to have the house to yourself every once in a while and staying ahead of the game as well. Did you at least get to the reading you had planned for the evening? Be well during your full week and try not to let it overwhelm you. I'm taking this evening off, nope no more work for this evening and my friend Jenn thanks you for "beating" some sense into me, although she of course is doubting that I will manage to implement the taking every other evening off right away. Will see how it goes. Perhaps that's an added challenge on her part ...

Hi Grandma, how are you doing? thought to say "Hi" to you here, rather than "only" in our private email exchange. Lots of love to you and Grandpa.

Paul, I thought about what you said re. your daughter's and your situation as well, and again I feel the need to preface this with "What the hell do I think I'm talking about? I'm not a parent" but anyway: Is she aware of this subtle and unfair abuse going on or is this your adult observation? Either way, make her feel safe that no matter what she does--take the abuse or defend herself--that that is her choice to make, that doesn't change your relationship, your love for her and her importance to you, nor her worth and value as a beloved amazing human being. But I'd also talk to her about the inappropriateness of the other child's behavior and discuss strategies with her how she can respond to that situation, which she is comfortable with, what appropriate and inappropriate responses would be for her (I know it's not always this black and white, but I'm trying to make a point) etc. and give her as much input as you can, but give her the space to make her own decision. Affirm her as much as you can, and let her know that she doesn't need to put up with such behavior. If you guys feel comfortable enough talking to the parents, that might be a good way too, but that sometimes is tough when you are friends as well, but then again, friends should have the well-being of their friends and their children at heart, but I know it can be tricky when you try to point our problems in the behaviors of a friends child. I wish you, your wife, daughter(s) and your friends and their child/children well and that you can resolve this to the best possible outcome for all involved. You all are in my thoughts and prayers/communications with the universe on this matter.

Okay, I know this is getting long again, but one more thing for Tim, congratulations on so many things: talking to your wife--Good for you guys!!!; for more or less finishing the script (Will I ever get to read it? Please!!!), doesn't it feel good to finish a book project?; for having found this positive spirit that I knew was in you all along!

Love to all, be well!

Posted by: Evelyn on February 11, 2003 08:36 AMfrom IP:

Thanks for sharing part of your story with us, Peter. Amazing! I don't know if I can be regressed, but I'd like to try it some time.

One of my best friends (Peter, who passed from AIDS about 8 years ago) was frequently visited by his mother's spirit. He used to joke that he kept an apartment with two bedrooms, so she would have a room. *** When my brother's oldest son was a toddler, he told his mother that my deceased mother would visit with him. *** My brother and dad and I once stayed in an apartment in the French Quarter in New Orleans where the hallway didn't conduct sound (you couldn't hear the person speaking at the other end of the hall, perhaps 8 feet in length); but we could hear the sounds of children in a playground, even though it was nighttime and there was no such place in the vicinity. *** Finally, I once worked with a woman whose 4 year-old grandson directed her out to a river and then told her about his prior life in which he drowned in that river.

Hi, Innussiq. Thanks for the info.

Good quote, Dhiana.

All comments are welcome, Evelyn. And no, I didn't get to my reading. I was too tired. (Okay. Now you can blast me.) I think your advice to Paul was pretty good. Children do need to be coached in how to deal with others; but they have to be allowed to develop those skill, too. I would say that if the trouble escalates, Paul, you and Andrea should talk to the parents.

This was my first day on the job and I'm tired. Dinner, some shopping, some reading, then I'm off to bed.

Posted by: Diane on February 11, 2003 10:31 AMfrom IP:

Good evening all.
Daily update of news:

Dad started hormone therapy for the prostate cancer. Hope it helps with the mood swings too.
He had to tell me that this little bottle of pills cost him $300.00. I suggested he just take Premarin, sis can get him samples for free.

Dan's surgery went well, over in 45 minutes. They found no thorn, just a grainey cyst. No penatration of the joint membrane and the tendons all looked good. Should be good as new in 3 - 4 weeks. Goes back next tuesday to have stitches removed. He's dealing well with the pain, big bottle of pills $1.71 Yeah!!!!

Control, Control, Control I don't know which it is. Sometimes I just look at it as the bosses son once said. "You're getting paid to be here."
So, I guess if I have to sit and wait for him to proof the work I've done so be it. It's his dime. I'll find something else to work on in the meantime. I just hate having this hurry up and wait system of getting things done.

Peter: Memories, what brings them on and don't we often wonder why we can recall somethings and not others. I tell no dreams before breakfast, they likely will come to pass otherwise. I've had dejavou(sp) on more than one occasion and it can be a little overwhelming.

Ann, Ann, Ann, living with the hormonal changes of a teenage boy can be the most exasparating experience mom's go thru. You want to be able to let them stand on their own two feet and help them in the right direction. On the other hand you want to hold them and rock them like the babies they once were and tell them everything will be Okay. I used to have a sign on my refrigerator that said You just live with teenagers and hope that someday they grow out of it. I agree with others tho, experimenting with sex, drugs, alcohol can really mess them up and they don't even realize it. But bad mouthed little girls don't fill my bill for future daughter-in-laws either. Send the parents a bill for the ring if she destroyed it. Make the son pay for it if she didn't. Counseling, check your school, most have one on staff and are trained to spot those suspected of experimenting with drugs and alcohol. First and foremost, keep the line of communication open. Sometimes having them yell at you gets it out of their systems and calms them down for reasonable discussions. I had a many of these when Keith was growing up. Not easy for either of us. But did not involve girls either. We both lived thru it and are both better for it. He has a lovely wife and both are doing very well together.

Tim and Evelyn: congratulations on the near completion of great works in literary talent.

Paul: What is the age difference in your girls and the friend's abusive children. If they are considerably older, put a stop to it any way you can. Take into consideration, that they may be acting out a form of abuse that they themselves are going thru. You know, what goes around, comes around. Just a thought, take care, and take care of the girls. Their health, safety and your sanity comes first.

Must go get DH settled into bed, has to keep the had above heart for next two days.
Hugs all around,
Sherrlyn

Posted by: Sherrlyn on February 11, 2003 10:57 AMfrom IP:

Hello, everyone. This is my first post so please forgive if this kind of message does not belong here. I'm not quite sure how over a decade has gone by before I managed to see Strictly Ballroom--I saw it this weekend and loved it so much I had to see it again! It was recommended to me because I am taking my first trip to Australia later this month. I am so impressed with Paul's Corner and, probably due to my American skepticism, at first wondered if it was the real Paul! Thank you, Paul, for sharing your thoughts. I found this post very timely because I tend to think "what if" too much. In fact, after seeing the movie, I even scribbled down one of its lines and put it up on my fridge: "Vivir con miedo es vivir a medias." That's one to live by.

Posted by: Jess on February 11, 2003 11:10 AMfrom IP:

Slow day at work. Caught up on all the posts. Cant comment right now but can give kicks all round.

Posted by: Paul on February 11, 2003 12:44 PMfrom IP:

Home from work and surprised no one has posted since I did.

Peter, I love your experience - does it frighten you to remember this or do you retain that feeling of joy and power? That experience enabled you to survive, shared with us it also gives us a sense of joy and power. Thank You. When I began to read it I went all goose bumpily it was like entering another room but in a different place or a different temperature.

I have had experiences with past lives, passed over family and with ghosts. I have seen them, talked to them and shooed them on their way. Never doubt the wonders of our world nor of ourselves.

Thank you all for your concern regarding my daughter. I am happy to say I am way ahead of you. The other parents know - as their child has been in therapy - my daughter is well versed in methods of dealing with the difficulties and what to do when it gets a it much. My wife and I keep an eye out as do the other parents. Before and after we talk to my daughter about how it was and about any problems or difficulties and again how to deal. My daughter makes my heart melt, she is so generous of spirit, loving by nature and has a nuturing heart. My post was how I feel as a parent watching and letting go - how frail the human condition can seem and yet she reminds me also of how strong. My nature is to jump up and protect - you know what I mean Ann - but sometimes we can only guide with loving words, offering them swords made from our love and support and shields made from our hugs and kisses.

I send my hugs and kisses to you Ann (oh alright to every one as well xoxox)It aint going to be easy but maybe it will be easier than you think. There has been lots of good advice here and I hope you can take from it that which you need and use our love and support as your sword and our hugs and kisses as your shield.

Welcome Jess. And hello again to Sara and take the advice from Whitney.

Tim, glad to hear things are moving in directions that - hate to say because of the religious conotation - show a light at the end of the tunnel.... Amazing isnt it. Not long ago you only saw one way adn alsmost took it and now there would seem to be a few more options. No one knows what they are but I hope and trust that you can sense that they are openning up to you. I am proud of you and happy for you. It hasnt been easy, nor is it going to get a lot easier in the short term as there is much to do but the fact the journey you needed to take has begun speaks volumes to your courage, your strength of spirit and your love for you wife, children and yourself. Where it ends ??? - if you surrender, have faith , know all is well, that is life - you will be at a new beginning.

Whitney Whitney Whitney did I spy a little peice of negative writing about you, a mirror and a dress???? Big KICK to you. We all do it and it's okay to do it - get it out - but it is only one point of view and one we know that you are working to change. I trust that you dont always subcribe to that point of view. I am proud of you too for sticking to it and making the progress you have. Keep going girl!!!

As for me I am not very active in trimming up. Looking after my diet, trying to consume less of the amber liquid and getting on my bike a couple of mornings a week before going to work. But guess what - I never do enough BUT I do what I can. The trouble is the picture I have in my mind for me requires a lot more work than I actually care to put in right now. If I wasnt working I could do my gym workouts and longer rides etc but I am happy that I am doing something, I am making choices and know I can make others at any time. I am moving forward - not like a tidal wave, more like a giant moving frozen glacier (why did I have images of the goddess Dhaina then - your post was like a tidal wave!)

Innussiq, Diane, Grandma, Evelyn, Sherrlyn, Michelle,Blue Dog, Sallie, Kelli, Linda, heather and Delta Lady Thank You all for you thoughts and posts.

I have enjoyed spending some time with you all over the last few days. I feel like I am saying goodbye...but I am not. I just know that when the working week gets going I cannot get back so often. Wish me luck, I didnt sell a thing again today. Having a dry spell, hopefuly will turn around tomorrow.

Love and healthy thoughts to all.

Posted by: Paul on February 11, 2003 06:03 PMfrom IP:

Thanks every one for your support and advice....I have talked to my son about alot of things, mainly reinforced that I love him and am concerned about him and the way he has let himself down this year. He has agreed to pay for the ring, the jeweler says it wont be much to fix it and I think it will help him learn a little responsibility. I know we will get thru this, he's a good kid....I did ask about the drug thing, He swears he isnt taking....Thank God. Thanks again guys, you are all terrific.
Paul, thanks for your encouragement...and the whole "use our love and support as your sword and our hugs and kisses as your shield" I am going to tell my son that...Thanks!

Have a good day everyone!!!!!!

Posted by: Ann on February 11, 2003 08:35 PMfrom IP:

Paul...You know that with all the committments you have - family, work, living - you can't dedicate all your time to getting into shape. Baby steps will get you there. As you tell everyone, don't be so hard on yourself! Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 11, 2003 09:47 PMfrom IP:

Oh, and Paul, you should be taking vitamin B complex which is excellent for stress and the metabolism. It is wonderful! Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 11, 2003 11:24 PMfrom IP:

I know that this is completely off the subject, but I need som help from you Aussies on this board....(is it polite for me to call you all "Aussies"?) My daughter's girl scout troop picked Australia as their country for an international project. We have an outline of what we are going to present, but most of the girls think that everyone in Australia acts like Steve Irwin. I told them that that couldn't be further from the truth and that the arts in Australia were a major source of pride with the dance, theatre and cinema. I mentioned SB and Moulin Rouge. What I would really like to know is, Is there a food that is something unique to the country? We have some "Vegemite", but I was wondering about some others. Paul, you talk a bit about cooking, what is something you cook?
Also, are there any games that children play there that are unique to Australia. Any info is useful. Thanks a million.

Posted by: Mary Ellen on February 12, 2003 02:31 AMfrom IP:

Dear All,
Sincerest thanks for your open minded and understanding responses. When I finished writing, I started to have doubts about the wisdom of having told it, but those apprehensions have melted away. Thankyou.
Health, happiness and joy to all of you and your loved ones.

Paul,
No, I am not at all frightened to remember it.
Sometimes though, I "link into" that feeling of being hopelessly and totally defenseless and overwhelmed. It hits me hard, but it is only a memory, AND it's OVER. I rise above it.
It gives me a great sense of comfort to know that there is something so wonderful waiting. For this reason, I have no fear of dying. When it comes, I will welcome it like a dear, old friend. Mind you, I still want to keep kicking on for a good while yet!!!!LOL
The revelation (i.e. memory, vision) allows me to understand myself, and why I am sometimes a little "different", NOT worse necessarily, just different. (aren't we all?!!)
One factor is the formation of ego (concept of self) while still in-utero. Normally, this does not develop until around 3 to 4 months after birth. This can have severe negative effects on behaviour, (strongly anti-social), but I'm lucky, I managed to escape that. The other challenge is that my brain never switches completely out of "survival" mode. It affects my general physiology such as the adrenal system and weight control. So, I ten to get chronically tired and fat more easily! Just another challenge to be conquered.
Still, life goes on. I feel priviledged to be here.

Good to hear things are working out for your daughter. Our children are so very precious. I believe that how we love and care for our children, is the greater measure of us as individuals.
Also nice to hear you are keeping a balance between work/family/exercise. It's bloody tough to find time to work out, I know. One step at a time (I keep reminding myself).
And finally, I hope the dry spell clears up real soon. Take care.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 12, 2003 02:46 AMfrom IP:

Dear Mary Ellen,

I'm an Aussie.
No, we definitely don't all speak like Steve Irwin.
He "plays up" the accent, general colloquialisms and mannerisms.

Food is a multicultural affair.
However, thirty odd years ago it was more like traditional English, but now it's far more multicultural with influences of Italian, Greek and Asian, amongst others.
I can't think of some modern food that's traditionally Australian. It probably used to be roast leg of lamb for Sunday lunch. Paul might help here.

Traditional sports include (for boys:) cricket, football (i.e rugby leauge, rugby union, Aussie rules), soccer and tennis.
Girls: Volleyball, netball, softball, tennis.
Both: Swimming, surfing.
What have I missed?

That's a quick round up. Hope it's of help.
(See, not a single "crikey", "streuth" or "strike me down" in the conversation!!

Cheers,
Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 12, 2003 03:05 AMfrom IP:

Struth Mary Ellen thats a real tuffy!

I's say sausage rolls and spin the bottle! Great food great game!

Tell her to watch out for the kangas hoppen down the road by crikey!

Okay I'm having a go. Australia is a great place. We are fairly well Americanised in lots of ways and yet we still retain some pretty distinct diffesrences. Your daughter will be fine!!

Sausage rolls are one of my all time favourites and are probably BAD for you. It is not what you think - you take a sausage mix of meat and wrap it in a long roll of pastry so that it looks like a pastry tube. Each end of the tube is not closed so you can see the meat. These are oven baked. you eat them with lots of tomatoe sauce or in your native tongue - ketchup. Spin the bottle I best not tell you about!!

Posted by: Paul on February 12, 2003 03:36 AMfrom IP:

Mary Ellen,

Oh crikey jingoes cobber digger!
(see Paul's contribution above)....!!
How immensely foolish of me,....oops, I meant: "strike me down if I'm not a dopey mongrel"... I forgot to even mention the "taste for the good things in life", namely; sausage rolls, (aka snagger rolls). Hmmm....could go a couple for breakfast right now, but I have to let the emus out of the shed, they're makin' a helluva din, lousy mongrel birds.
Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 12, 2003 04:17 AMfrom IP:

I was watching good ole Steve Irwin the other night, and his wife actually said something to him about using expressions she hadn't heard any other Aussies use. Specifically, "G'day, how's yer bum for warts?". Honest to God!

We watched an Aussie TV show called "Learners" the other night. All about people taking driving lessons and getting their driver's license. One woman's husband was speaking both Italian and Spanish while teaching her to drive. She wasn't progressing very well.

We are more alike than we are different, but those differences can be so interesting. The sad irony is that we as a country are so damned provincial while at the same time shoving our culture down other's throats. How many fricking McDonalds does this world need after all? Give me sausage rolls!!!

Peace,
Michelle from Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 12, 2003 06:18 AMfrom IP:

Mary Ellen,

I just thought of it!.... MEAT PIES!!!.... THE traditional Aussie fare!
In Australia, people go to watch the cricket and football (apparently) and consume huge numbers of this special Aussie delicacy. Nowadays, some folk even eat them at cafes or at home. ....shear indulgence. LOL
As with sausage rolls, they require the mandatory copious smothering of tomato sauce. Yummy!
I bet your mouth is watering as you read this!
(oh, I'm a bad man!!).
Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 12, 2003 06:22 AMfrom IP:

AGH!!!!!!!!!!! the only thing better than a meat pie for lunch - smothered in mata suace is TWO! Yep I do that on occassions!!!! I want one now. What a about deep fried dim sims? You can only get them in Victoria and there grouse!!!

Posted by: Paul on February 12, 2003 06:35 AMfrom IP:

You guys are making me hungry! If I bring some deep dish pizza will you meet me somewhere in the middle? You bring the Coopers.

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 12, 2003 07:10 AMfrom IP:

Michelle,
Bottla! Yep, your shout for Pizza. Better make it a REAL deep dish. We'll scrounge some Coopers.
Belly full of tucker and pissed as chooks by early arvo. Bewdy.

I have NEVER heard of "how's ya bum fa warts?"!!!
But, here's one: "How's ya mother's ducks?".
No, I'm sure about it either. Best keep quiet about it.

Paul, Deep fried dim sims! Rampant luxury!...I'm jealous.

Posted by: Peter on February 12, 2003 07:28 AMfrom IP:

Paul, I'm glad you are way ahead of us and let me just add, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. And here's a kick for you as well, and why the heck not, one for Peter as well. KICK for Paul, KICK for Peter.

And meat pies and sausage rolls???? Yummmm!!! Of course I only had both of these a few times in the UK, so perhaps they are different from the Aussie versions, but delicious nonetheless. Good thing I just had dinner, I can control the cravings. :) But what are deep fried dim sims? Never heard of those. And now of course I want to know what spin the bottle is all about--and a few words you guys have used that I have in some cases a VERY faint idea with they could mean, in others absolutely no clue. I fear I'm learning another language ... :) good thing I like learning languages.

Be well, love, hugs and kisses, & Paul, I hope that work picks up for you today, and tomorrow and for the rest of the week.

Posted by: Evelyn on February 12, 2003 07:29 AMfrom IP:

All this talk about food.....YUM, makes a person hungry. The sausage rolls sound delicious, may have to "give it a go" sometime, if you would indulge me with the recipe, there Paul. Would I use like a breakfast type sausage or what? What seasonings, if any, do you use. Do you use like a biscuit mix for the pastry roll? Yes, I am one of these women who have to have cooking directions. Thank God my husband could cook when we got married, otherwise we would have starved. I was too busy climbing trees and playing back yard football with the neighborhood boys to learn how to cook. I have come a long way tho, I can cook now, just have to read the directions. Still not much of a "from scratch" kind of girl, but, I do okay when I have to.

Well, I am going to spend the entire day with my son at school tomorrow. His behavior today was unacceptable in class so I am tagging along tomorrow. I am definately not going to get the "mother of the year" award this year, for sure, but, I dont know what else to do. He is so angry with me right now. He thinks I have no right to interfere at school. Go figure.

Butt kicks to you whitney....are you snowed in up there? My husband is still in Lewisburg with his father. He says it's nasty there and more snow is on the way. How is your grandpa? Hope he is well.

Grandma, Hope you are doing well. How is your production going? Are you to the big stage yet?

Welcome to the new posters!!!! Paul is a wonderful host...very faithful to us.

Hugs to everyone, and Peter, I love to read your posts...the Aussie lingo is muy bien.

Posted by: Ann on February 12, 2003 08:33 AMfrom IP:

Wow the postings...
I'm doing so well on my diet and then you guys hit with the suasage rolls and fried dim sims and beer. Geez..lighten up, no pun intended.
My change of eating habits is back on schedule and doing well. I haven't had a Diet Soda in 4 days now. I'm drinking an average of 12 glasses of water, pissing like a racehorse but feeling better actually. Starting the exercise. It's a good thing.
Peter I'm very glad you shared with us. See it's a great form of release and we're all here for you. I've never had that experience per se, but I don't doubt it. The closest thing I had was after my mom died. I was out of town on an audit with KPMG. About four in the morning, I found my self in a daze kind of talking to her. And then with a really loud voice she said You'll be ok and disappeared. I sat straight up in bed and was frozen. It was incredible. Since then I've had other times where I know she's here. Or it sure as hell feels like it. Again...thanks for being so open.
Welcome Jess. Hope you'll join the board. It's an awesome group. We have great discussions and a really nice time together. It's feels like a great cul de sac neighborhood, except this is Paul's corner in cyberspace.
Paul...Thanks for the comments. I am starting over. I'm putting into action a lot of things I've let just slide by for a long time. Oddly enough I feel very together. I do love my kids just like you guys do. I only want what's absolutely best for them. Your statement about the sword and hugs and kisses. Very nice and so true. And I've got my fingers crossed for you for better sales this week...Don't feel bad though I only had two people today. $300 bucks..Whoopee..NOT.

I finished my script. I'm going back over it trying to fine tune a few areas and I think it needs one more scene to really give it the final finish.
Also...I'm getting a tattoo. Hey why not right?
Oh and thanks a lot guys...you gave more australian expressions in the cooking advice than when I asked for them...(just giving you guys a hard time). Actually that's great though, because they were used in the context of a conversation...exactly what I wanted. : )
Ann..Hang on to that kid. Watch his behavior closely though. I've seen a heck of a lot of kids screwed up early...if you have too many doubts take him to the doctor for a checkup and tell him to test for drugs. Just tell him it's time for a physical...make sure those hormones are working right...whatever works...and only if you feel it necessary.
Speaking of kids how old are your daughters Paul? Isn't one a teenager?
Mine children will be 12, 10, 5 and 1 this year.
Innussiq, Diane, Grandma, Evelyn, Sherrlyn, Michelle,Blue Dog, Sallie, Kelli, Linda, heather and Delta Lady, whitney, anybody else??? Hugs to you all and hope today or tomorrow is an excellent day.
Peace, love and happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 12, 2003 08:51 AMfrom IP:

Good evening Grandma.

Peter, your story is awesome and I believe you. What a comfort to have some "insider knowledge". I suspect our fear of death is unwarranted, but we cling to our ego and fear its destruction most of all. I wonder what it will be like.

Michelle, I think personal experience beats everything when trying to offer help. Your words have truth in them.

Evelyn, I didn't work out last night, but I managed to do it today. I also did 20 minutes on the elliptical trainer (while watching "Minority Report") and walked my dog twice. I'm starting to feel like I have more energy and agility. I made an incredible save this morning when walking my dog. I hit some ice hidden beneath snow and came very close to busting my ass, as we say in WV. As I regained my composure, I had to laugh because I could see from some skid marks beside me in the swow, that someone else had just done the same thing.

Sherrlyn, I love your posts; you give honest, thoughtful advice. I hope everyone in your family mends well. I'll keep them in my mind/heart.

Welcome Jess. That saying is so important to remember. It's easy to let our days be stolen by our fears. I saw SB only about a year ago. How did such a wonderful movie sneak by us?

Ah, Paul, you busted me. Thanks for the kick; the view is already changing. Your encouragement helps, but it's even better to hear that you're getting in some activity yourself. I've been curious, but didn't want to pry too much. Try exercising aerobically 20 to 30 minutes after any meal. My lower body workout only took 50 minutes today. Do you have a set of free weights? The more muscle you have, the faster your metabolic rate. Who knows, it might even improve your sales. Even with a job you have to make the essential time. It's not as much as you think, especially if you give up some "things" temporarily. Enough said!

Ann, I'm glad you and your son are talking. I hope we didn't scare you with our honesty. Everything was said with caring intentions, and your response indicated you received it in the manner we intended.

I'm glad I didn't read all of these posts earlier. All this talk of delicious food might have made me head for the fridge rather than my free weights.

"Use our love and support as your sword and our hugs and kisses as your shield." I love that Paul! Thanks to everyone for the tangible support I find here. Hugs and kisses all around!

Good night Grandma. I love you.
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 12, 2003 08:51 AMfrom IP:

Tim, we posted at the same time. Congratulations on the script!!!

On the tattoo: I hear ankle ones hurt like hell! Especially when they move into that area right over the bone on the side. Keep us posted.
Love,
whit

Posted by: Whitney on February 12, 2003 08:59 AMfrom IP:

Paul, my daughter, Krysten says hello...she loves to watch Strictly Ballroom and she is a big fan of yours. Could you please include a hello for her. She is 10. Thanks a bunch!!!!!

Posted by: Ann on February 12, 2003 09:03 AMfrom IP:

Gidday Krysten!! Glad you love the movie and thank you for saying hello to me! I have three daughters 13, 11, and almost 7 - their the best!! I hope you enjoy school and work hard but remember to have lots of fun too.

Take care

Paul

Posted by: Paul on February 12, 2003 09:59 AMfrom IP:

Thanks a million Paul, you have made her day!

Posted by: Ann on February 12, 2003 10:06 AMfrom IP:

Paul,
A serious question for you, it's something I've long wondered about.
(ONLY) if you're comfortable talking about it, then please tell:
What's it like having a famous face, especially in Australia, on a day to day basis?
Does it have many (any) drawbacks?
How do people react when they meet you?
Does it cause you any problems, e.g. privacy?
Does it mean any extra responsibilities?
Does it vary from place to place, different situations? Can you shed some light?....I'm genuinely interested.
Thanks.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 12, 2003 11:08 AMfrom IP:

Yes tattos on the ankle tend to hurt - quite a bit, I have had three on my ankles and they certainly brought a slight sheen of sweat upon my brow. So what are you gonna get Tim?

Pizza, pies, coupla mates, a few snags on the barbi, suck back a few tinnies - mate I'll be in it. Coawabinga till then.

Posted by: Paul on February 12, 2003 11:29 AMfrom IP:

Good evening to ALL of you wonderful people! (And you know who you are!!!)

I'm proud to say that I didn't even salivate when you started in about sausage rolls, Paul. Not even when Peter invoked meat pies. (Well, okay, just a little and mostly about the baked bread/crusts which I still miss, but don't crave anymore.) Two and a half weeks on Atkins (no bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, sugar) and I'm starting to feel like a new person. Slimming down, calmer, more energy, more focused and less fuzzy-headed, plus fewer sinus problems. This shift really hit me when I walked into a craft store last week and my head started to ache. I had never noticed this problem before even though I've been in there many times. Right away I knew it was caused by the chemicals in the dried flowers. Before this diet change, I might have attributed my reaction to some other cause. So Dr. Atkins is right. His plan really does help eliminate unnecessary ailments.

BTW, I'm reading an article now that says the most important factor for good health and longevity is not weight, but fitness. People who are overweight, but who exercise have a lower mortality rate than those who are at or under their "ideal" weight, but are sedentary. Hooray! Let's go take over the fashion industry!!!

Congratulations on the script, Tim.

Glad you're feeling good about your disclosure, Peter. And thank you once again. I, for one, am fascinated by your experiences.

Gotta run. Hope I can catch up with you later in the week. (I have three longggg days ahead of me.)

Love yuz,

Diane

Posted by: Diane on February 12, 2003 11:56 AMfrom IP:

Hey Ann,

In my book you DO have the "Mother of the Year" award!! I think that you have temendous gut and fortitude!!! He says that he doesn't want you at school? I don't beleive it. I'll bet that he's secrectly reveling in it. Although he may never admit as much. I know that when my 12 yr old acts out it has so much to do with the attention that she gets. Negative attention is better than none, I guess. I have 2 1/2 yr old twin boys. they take up a lot. Right now, Mary, my oldest at 12 and in 6th grade is in the mode of turning in late assignments and generally not intereested in school. She thinks I'm totally weird. I will have to say though that I caught her singin "sweet and Innocent" by Donny Osmond the other day. I just laughed. I made a CD of some of Donny's songs just for the heck of it. It really dates me though. hahahaha
I just think that you are wonderful in showing that you are concerened enough to spend the time and do whatever it takes to help him acheive and rid himself of the bad influences. Well, your the mom, you can get rid of the bad influences no matter what he says. He may not now, but definatly will love you for it. Where's his dad in all of this? Tim had some real good advice. 13. Does that mean he's in 8th grade? Wow. I really starts young. I asked my good buddy who teaches 2nd grade and she said that yes, this kind of dating and girl stuff and drugs and peer presure does indeed start that early. Can't say that I'm looking forward to it. I will definatly keep you and you son in prayer. Can't wait to learn how it goes tomorrow. Have Fun!!!!!

Love to all,

Margie

P.S. I too love the idea of hugs and kisses as a sheild. Have to go back to remember the other part. But I'll use it too. Goodonya!!! My good girlfriend is from New Zealand. I also say, "I'll give you a ring" that's telephone call. She said that she had never heard that in America. My mom's going to be 85 next month. that's where I got it...

Posted by: Margie on February 12, 2003 12:56 PMfrom IP:

Wow and then WOW!!! Dang and then DANG!!!

Miss one day and all kinds of things going on at m'curios place! Took forever to catch up, made it to the food section - left over fajitas begged to be eaten!!!

Pete, Innussiq got it right "I believe you" - thanks for sharing - brave and courageous, not knowing what the reaction would be... Side note--Rodeo will be here next week, there'll be rambling, cowboy hats up the wazoo, and probably some side irons tucked away somewhere-to make waffles that is!

granny mil - saw monsoon wedding...liked it...felt the heat and traffic of india - came away with "everyone, everywhere, all the time should dance" - and that's 'xactly what i'm going to do - i'm going to dance when the music plays!!! (my own vague metaphor)

(evie,dhiana-are these ellipsis?) like em....so gonna use em......(lol)

page 209, bringers of the dawn...great words...think i'd better get the book, thanks dhiana

and timmer-you rock, no other way to say it...

what else? oh yeah, welcome to jess and heather! keep posting...

later..

Posted by: bluedog on February 12, 2003 01:20 PMfrom IP:

I'm back. Just for a second or two...

Mary Ellen, for a little more authentic Aussie flavor (not that Paul and Peter aren't doing an admirable job :), you might want to get some of John Williamson's music. He's an Australian folk singer. My cousin and her husband who live in Queensland (he's a native) shared some of his music with us. It's sweet and funny and lovely. His web site is: http://www.malleeboy.com/

And Ann, I'm glad your son is willing and able to communicate with you. Acting out is a cry for attention, as Margie said. Still, it's not always easy to remember to give attention for positive behaviors. I have one son in high school and one in junior high. My 13 year-old started out his 8th grade year thinking that junior high didn't count. I had to remind him that j.h. grades guide placement in high school. Still, those two years are a big transition. I think we still need to fight for them, but also cut them some slack at this point.

Alright, now I really have to go soak my hands. Two days of floral design and I've got the mitts of a coal miner.

Posted by: Diane on February 12, 2003 01:58 PMfrom IP:

Hey Linda,

Got a question for you. Are you the Linda Thomas that's married to David Foster? Just curious. :) Hey Paul, I love your regional dialect, wish I had a sexy accent. :)

- Tiffany

Posted by: Tiffany on February 12, 2003 09:22 PMfrom IP:

Ann, here is a link to a sausage roll recipe. It uses puff pastry for the dough, which I've had as well, but I've also had them with a "breadier" kind of dough. http://www.greatbritishkitchen.co.uk/gbk/recipes/starters/sausagerolls.htm Sounds easy enough. I have a recipe back home, but unfortunately no access to it. The cookbook is packed away in one of my many boxes in Mum's attic.

Diane, why would I want to bust you for wanting to sleep instead of reading? Whatever it takes to get you through a crazy week sane ... oh, by the way, I took two evenings off in a row and I'm thoroughly enjoying it :-) and got all the things done that I wanted to under my reasonable adjustment plan. Yep, let's indeed take over the fashion industry!!! and I think you are absolutely right about the link between better fitness and less health problems. Haven't had a sinus infection in months and I used to get them all the time (nasty things!)

Mary Ellen, another Aussie kids related TV show, now sold on videotapes in the US are the Wiggles … if it is something authentically Australian, can't judge that, sure sounds like it though and is rather funny, mostly for really little kids though. Cracks me up every time I get to watch it with Trent and that cracks him up in return.

Whitney, I'm giving you a BIG pat on the back for not exercising again, don't take it the wrong way, I'm just trying to counter your feeling bad/guilty about it that I sense in your comments. I'm very proud of you for plugging (sp?) away anyway whenever you can. It helps me on some days when I don't feel like it to go to the gymn again, knowing that you and others are doing it as well. What exactly do you do for your lower and upper body workouts? (okay you can email that to me if you don't want to post it here or for that matter since not everyone might want to read that, who knows) good safe on the skidding. I'm usually not so lucky, I always fall the same way, taking the brunt of the fall with my left wrist, injuring it badly every time it happens. So far I've been lucky this winter and haven't applied this special talent of mine. May that trend continue .... How's your grandpa and how's his swallowing going?

Ann, I'm proud of you for going to school with your son and wish you all the best. Here's a hug for you and I'll cheer you on as you embark on this difficult journey with your son.

bluedog, I guess you are right, I like paranthetical comments ( ) and ellipsis … and I like "Evie" I don't think anyone has called me that before. How are you?

Tim, congrats on finishing the script!!! Have fun with editing unless you've already done that, in which case you'd be way ahead of me.

Paul, Peter and Michelle can I come to the barbecue beer hangout as well? I'll bring something typically German along, if you'd like, nope it won't be German beer, though that could be arranged as well. Oh by the way, you (i.e. Peter and Paul) have lost me with the Aussie idiom now, but I like it anyway, it sounds funny and makes me break out in laughter, which is a good thing. Thanks for making me laugh!

Have a great day all!

Posted by: Evelyn on February 12, 2003 10:47 PMfrom IP:

Good morning, Whitney, I love you too!

In fact, I love all of you for accepting me, making me laugh, (almost making me weep), and generally accepting me, warts and all, as your surrogate "Grannie". Sometimes Grannies, like children, should be seen but not heard, but you have allowed me to do both, (check the Yahoo pix site) and I thank you for your love and patience!

I therefore proclaim, for Valentine's Day, (which will be in Australia first tomorrow) that "I adore you all" and will be sending a special Valentine from Elliott and me to you, if your email address at the end of your posts will support it!

So, in case the Valentines do not go through, we want to wish you and your loved ones, (with all our hearts) love, happiness, success, good health and peace!

My wish list: Ann, Bluedog, Cat, Delta Lady, Dhiana, Diane, Evelyn, Heather, Innuusiq, Kelli, Linda, Margie, Mary Ellen, Michelle (Chicago), Michelle Nova Scotia) Paul, Peter, Sallie, Sara, Sherrlyn, Susie, Tiffany, Tim, and Whitney....CRICKEY! I HOPE I MENTIONED EVERYONE!

Your ever lovin'

Grandma Millie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 12, 2003 11:31 PMfrom IP:

Good morning, Whitney, I love you too!

In fact, I love all of you for accepting me, making me laugh, (almost making me weep), and generally accepting me, warts and all, as your surrogate "Grannie". Sometimes Grannies, like children, should be seen but not heard, but you have allowed me to do both, (check the Yahoo pix site) and I thank you for your love and patience!

I therefore proclaim, for Valentine's Day, (which will be in Australia first tomorrow) that "I adore you all" and will be sending a special Valentine from Elliott and me to you, if your email address at the end of your posts will support it!

So, in case the Valentines do not go through, we want to wish you and your loved ones, (with all our hearts) love, happiness, success, good health and peace!

My wish list: Ann, Bluedog, Cat, Delta Lady, Dhiana, Diane, Evelyn, Heather, Innuusiq, Kelli, Linda, Margie, Mary Ellen, Michelle (Chicago), Michelle Nova Scotia) Paul, Peter, Sallie, Sara, Sherrlyn, Susie, Tiffany, Tim, and Whitney....CRICKEY! I HOPE I MENTIONED EVERYONE!

Your ever lovin'

Grandma Millie

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 12, 2003 11:31 PMfrom IP:

Hello, everyone! Thanks for the recipe Evelyn. I will be sure to try that out. YUM!
Grandma - i included my email address this time...Thank you for the special Valentine's wish...LOVE YOU!!!!!
Margie - I made it to school with my son today, he really did not want me to go and in fact was pretty upset with me, but, i went anyway and I am glad I did. He will start seeing a tutor tomorrow for his math, which is actually his math teacher (wonderful lady). I spoke with the school guidance counsellor, he will be talking to my son from time to time. He was such a neat person. I am looking forward to feedback from him. As for where is daddy, he is in west virginia right now taking care of his father. His dad is really sick, his heart is failing him and he developed renal failure and kidney failure. It's only a matter of time for him, bless his heart. He tried talking to our son, gave him the, "I need you to be the man of the house while I am gone" talk, but it hasnt done any good. I only hope that todays trip to the school did some good.

Tim - congrats on the script.....good luck!

Happy Valentines day to everyone!!!!!

Posted by: Ann on February 13, 2003 01:45 AMfrom IP:

Margie, I loved Donny too! My first "crush" was on Bobby Sherman. I was also a fan of the music of the Jackson Five. Their songs are some of the best ever, in my opinion ( "Got to be there...").

Studies show you're right about negative reinforcement. It's just as powerful a motivator as positive. When I was a kid my mother had to come to school once and, looking back, I did seem to enjoy the fact that she was there for me. I'd been skipping and the teacher wouldn't let me back in class until he met with her. She had a job and wasn't interested in my education, but I didn't misbehave to get her attention consiously. I recall being motivated by a general restlessness. I wish someone had clued me in a little about why I was in school. Dreams coming true or something??

Ann, sorry to hear about your husband's dad. This has to be hard. It looks like my grandfather is going to leave us as well. I was told kidney failure last night and then told it was a bladder mystery problem this morning instead. Hospice is getting involved. They're going to move him back to his assisted care residence and we'll wait it out. He hasn't eaten in three days but their not feeding him with an IV. they say the sugar could cause diabettes. I think they're just letting him starve and I plan to take a can of slim fast over in a few minutes and let him drink it if he's alert enough. I know we all have to make the transition someday and I realize it just may be his time (he's 95), but it's hard for me to give up. Who knows the will of God? Thanks for your continued thoughts and prayers.

Hi grandma. I hope you're having a great day. Don't worry about me. Tell Ellie I said hi!

I almost fixed a toilet today. I replaced the part embarrasingly called the ballcock, but I need a new water line connector because the old one's leaking (rats!). I'll get it on the next try.

Ever since I was young I've enjoyed fixing things and then at age 10, we moved to an old farm house. I ended up helping with all sorts of remodeling work. We even demolished a 20 stall barn. I probably trashed my back dragging a log down a steep hillside or lifting it into a vehicle. My parents viewed me as free labor.
Love,
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 13, 2003 04:21 AMfrom IP:

Yeah Ann!!!!

I'm SOOOO glad that all went well. I'm sorry that I didn't remember about your father-in-law. That must be really hard. I know that you said the your husband lost his mother just a couple of years ago. Having you husband away plus dealing with your son's stuff must be overwhelming. I'm truley sorry if I sounded harsh. I am glad that you got the school councelor involved. So often they can be of more help that paying an off-site professional because they see the kids and surrounds and teachers everyday. I'm so happy that you are getting a handle on this right at the start. You son really has a wonderful support system and champion in you and I'm sure his dad. I will continue to keep you and your family in prayer.

Love,

Margie

Posted by: margie on February 13, 2003 05:24 AMfrom IP:

Thanks Margie! I can use all the prayer that you can send. Take care!

Posted by: Ann on February 13, 2003 07:02 AMfrom IP:

Paul that was really kind of you to send Krystin a personal message. Very cool. Your kids are almost the same age difference as mine 12 and 10 and then a 5 year old and then I added one more...You guys should add another one you'd probably have a boy...just don't think about it...
; )
As for the tattoo...it'll be just above my ankle onthe outside of my leg. It's a very colorful butterfly. It caugh my eye as I was going through all these millions of selections. My mom collected anything "butterfly." When I saw it...that was it. A tribute to my mom for being the unforgettable extraordinary soul that she was. Violet B. Hord 1933 -- 1997. Anyways I don't care if it hurts or not. I think it'll be fine.
And Paul I'm interested in Peter's question as well if you don't mind sharing...How do you handle the public aspect of people recognizing you. Like if one of us walked in your store. Would it be a "Hey mate long time no "hear?" or casual. What do your kids think? They see you in these movies...and see how talented you are with dance...do they realize what an impact you have on others?
Ann...So very glad that you went to school with him. Two thumbs up for that. You go girl. Face the demon and it will back down. You faced it and got some direction and some help. Goodonya!!

The script??? Oh man. I'm stumped. I do need to add another scene possibly two in order for the script to flow more easily. And of course the edit process. But I'll get it done...just trying to think through the logistics of the scenes and make it happen on paper.

Still no soda. Today 16 glasses of water, plus the tap class. We worked on our number, plus the number we are doing with our kids. The first segment is for two of us that have the younger children (my five year old) we do little number and send them off stage then go drag our older ones back on for another segment. The song is Me and My Shadow. God it's cute. My five year old said on the way home. Dad I really had a good day. I like tapping with you. Melt my heart.
For you ladies out there..I was home today..the wife was working outside the home. I kept the baby with me. Cleaned the kitchen, and windows. Idid 8 loads of laundry. I had two haircuts at my house to do.
As always...great to be here. Love sharing with you guys. You're my mates. Thanks for being out here.
Peace, Love and Happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 13, 2003 09:33 AMfrom IP:

So much love going on around here, right back to you all! Ann, glad to here that things are well. Raising a son is tough. Tim I could never give up soda. I try so hard but coca-cola is my heroin. Sad.
I played a ps2 game called Ty the Tasmanian Tiger tonight. All I could think was my Aussie mates would be loving this. They have these cute accents, and they use every phrase that was discussed earlier on this thread. I almost hurt myself laughing!!!

Posted by: Innussiq on February 13, 2003 11:36 AMfrom IP:

The Happiest of Valentine’s Day to Paul and all his loyal posters: Ann, Bluedog, Cat, Delta Lady, Dhiana, Diane, Evelyn, Grandma Millie, Heather, Innuusiq, Kelli, Margie, Mary Ellen, Michelle (Chicago), Michelle (Nova Scotia), Peter, Sallie, Sara, Sherrlyn, Susie, Tiffany, Tim, and Whitney.

Thanks to Grandma for putting everyone in alphabetical order!

Tiffany…No, David is not my husband but Thomas is. Isn’t that serendipitous that his first name is the same as my last name? Also, his father and our son are also named Thomas. Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 13, 2003 07:17 PMfrom IP:

Howdy Ya'all,
Wishing a Happy Valentines Day to you and yours.
It's 6:30 am here and time to get work a crackin'.

May Peace, Love and all the joys of the Universe be upon you, today and every day.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 14, 2003 02:33 AMfrom IP:

Many thanks to all who gave me info about Australia. We have made posters with info about the plants, animals, geography, and sports of Australia. Some of the girls will be in soccer uniforms and some will be dressed in khaki. We have to make a presentation so we are going to sing, "tie me kangaroo, down, sport" . i wish Millie would be with us to teach those girls some moves.
Paul, thanks for the personal response. Is the US, "Spin the Bottle" is a kissing game. And I am making sausage rolls and meat pies-thanks for your time. I hope you sell a big bunch of Valentines!
Peter, I ride a Cannondale road bike. I love it!
Have a great day! Happy Valentine's day!

Posted by: Mary Ellen on February 14, 2003 04:33 AMfrom IP:

Mary Ellen,
Do you ride for recreation or competitively?

My Cannondale is set up as a time-trial bike: carbon forks, airstryke bars etc. The riding position has been tailored to suit.
I used to compete in duathlon and the odd cycling time trial (flat out all the way)! i'm not big on pack riding - very risky and too many freeloaders (bludgers)!
My flexibility has suffered a little (lower back woes), so the Cannondale is parked on the wind trainer and I have started to ride a mountain bike on the road. Actually, it's very practical and I have to work really hard to feel like I'm moving at any decent pace, so it's great training.
I figure that if I can get the MB to move fast, the Cannondale should thunder!!

Nice to hear that some of the info. on Oz was helpful. Glad you had fun.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 14, 2003 04:50 AMfrom IP:

This has gotta be quick as I have to rush out of here and pick up my little one at daycare, but...

Hi everyone~

Peter, I just simply can NOT believe this "coincidence"...I know I know...coincidences are only patterns that we, at the moment, can not identify. ANYWAY...I am currently reading a book about past life regressions and CELL MEMORY by Sylvia Browne. It is phenomenal, and speaks clearly to your situation and some of the things you talked about. I will finish the book tonight, then come post from work tomorrow (you know, 'cause they PAY me to chat about alternative healing around here...ha!)

Miss you guys! Sorry I haven't been so into the convo's lately...was home for two days in a row due to school closings due to snow.

Love and hugs and peace and m&m's (hey, I'm PMS'ing so bugger off!) ;-)

Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on February 14, 2003 05:29 AMfrom IP:

Dhiana,
I don't believe in coincidences either.
There have been several more regressions (past & present life) that I have not mentioned. One goes way, way, way back. Some are a little unexpected, in part.

I wonder where this will lead. Nothing happens without reason. Ah, coffee finished, work now.

Cheers,
Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 14, 2003 06:19 AMfrom IP:

Happy Valentine's Day everyone!!! though I'm not all too much into this holiday, have a good one. I'll celebrate my sis's birthday which is on the 14th.

Tim, having a bit of a hard time letting the script go and deciding it is done? LOL A few days it was one more scene, now it's two more ... :-) Your comment made me smile, because I did similar things lately, but I AM DONE! (other than editing, sigh).

Whitney and Ann, I'm sorry that you have to face letting go of a loved family member. You are still in my thoughts & prayers and here's a hug to you both, actually, one for each of you.

Thanks grandma for your Valentine's greetings, and also Linda and Peter. Love to all!

Posted by: Evelyn on February 14, 2003 06:45 AMfrom IP:

Good evening Grandma! God bless you and your brood.

Paw Paw is in assisted care now. I went to see him a few minutes ago and he couldn't reach consciousness. They keep people so doped up with morphin when they get this ill. They act as if they're helping, but I know it's just to make his death more quick and less painful. Of course I'm into the no pain, but I think I'd like to be as lucid as I could as long as possible. Thanks for your well wishes.

My love to everyone.

Good night Grandma,
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 14, 2003 08:06 AMfrom IP:

Ah Whitney..I'm so sorry about your grandfather. They just don't want him in pain.
Happy Valentines day everyone. I hope it turns out to be a good one here in the ole U.S. All this talk of N Korea bombing us has a few people nervous. I'm not into all this stuff. Why can't people just fucking chill out. It's a bunch of power players that are affecting all humankind. They need to bugger off.
Another day with no sodas and 12 glasses of water today. God I feel like the damn titanic. A ton of flesh floating.
You're all in my thoughts, and I hope for peace love and happiness for everyone today tomorrow and the days to come as well. May the force be with us...whatever it is.
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 14, 2003 09:19 AMfrom IP:

BIG Hey to everyone! SO many posts have come up since I last looked at the comments! it'll take me awhile to read through them...... but I will! lol right now though I must get going on my adv art work! (hey to whitney!) and psychology! wonderful! jk lol
anyways.... I hope everyone is doing great!! Im glad your doing well Grandma!! take care!
Love to all!
Kelli

Posted by: Kelli on February 14, 2003 10:27 AMfrom IP:

oh and HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO EVERYONE!! Hope everyones V*day is very special!
MUCH love Always XXOO's!!!
Kelli

Posted by: Kelli on February 14, 2003 10:29 AMfrom IP:

Ann and Whitney, I join in the sympathies expressed here about the failing health of your loved ones. They have my thoughts and prayers for peaceful passage and you for diminished pain.

I've spent almost 15 hours (on my feet) on the job today designing floral arrangements for Valentine's Day. My hands are calloused, blistered, swollen and cut. My back aches and my feet are tingling; but I do it all for the glory of love (and some really good overtime pay).

I hope you all enjoy your Valentines Day. May the force be with you!

Dhiana, now I'm curious about YOUR stories. Oh, please do tell!

Paul, your children are indeed blessed to have you and Andrea as their parents. Maybe the hardest part of parenting is knowing when to step in and when to step back, yes? And as for profound responses from kids... they can be absolutely amazing, can't they? Beautiful.

Again, love to you all. (Now off to bed. More lovers to help tomorrow.)

The Limping Cupid

Posted by: Diane on February 14, 2003 03:25 PMfrom IP:

Whitney - I'm so sorry about your Granddad...I work alot with hospice patients, doing the DME side (oxygen, hospital beds, etc.). I hate that you are having to go thru this. I had a nephew who was born in 1989 with Rhizomelic Chondrodysplasia Punctata Syndrome. It's an awful, terminal disease. When he was born he spent two weeks in the neonatal intensive care unit at Keesler Airforce Base in Biloxi, Mississippi before they even knew what was wrong with him. They sent him home to die with a life expectancy of only two years. He lived to be four. At the very end, when he was just so sick his body was racked with pain and fever (it was over 105), the nurses came in and gave him a shot of morphine and told my mother that it wont be long now, and it wasnt. He died within a matter of minutes. I believe it relaxed his body so much that he couldnt fight any more. I may be wrong, but I know that the suffering was horrible for him. Again, whitney, you are in my thoughts and prayer for your dear granddad.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and prayers for my father in law. It's very appreciated. My poor husband (he's so tired) finally got him settled into the Nursing Home. It seems like a really nice place. The people seem very friendly. I had tried to talk my husband into going into nursing school because he was already doing the volunteer fire fighting (he gets to run medic calls) and he was taking a first responders course, but he decided that he wanted me to go first and he would think about it. He told me last night that after all this, he definately wants to go to Nursing School. Yeah!

Happy Valentines Day!!! Bless your heart, Diane, my sister used to be a florist. She would tell me about all the long hours she would put in the night before. Go Limping Cupid, you rock!!!!!!

I'm off here to go to work...oh, Paul, hope all is going well with you this work week....what was the phrase? SOW SOW SOW.....

Hugs to everyone!!!!!!

Posted by: Ann on February 14, 2003 07:01 PMfrom IP:

I want to clarify something about what I said in the previous post. I didnt mean to make it sound like the nurses and doctors didnt care about my nephew. On the contrary, I have often commended the doctors and nurses who cared for my nephew in his short little life. They were all so wonderfully caring, and tried everything possible to give him the best possible care they could provide especially while dealing with a disease that was so unheard of and rare. His case was new and unfamiliar to them, but they did what they could. My nephew's doctors were his palbearers at his funeral and they cried just as hard as the rest of us. I know that at the very end there, they were only thinking of his well being and trying to take the pain away.
I just wanted to give them credit....thanks!

Posted by: Ann on February 14, 2003 08:00 PMfrom IP:

Oh dear..."Limping Cupid!" that's a GREAT name!

Peter: "...pissed as chooks"? ARE you aware, my dear man, that chooks don't pee at all? That all their excrement comes out as one glob? Gross, but factual. ;-) I call my laying hens "chooks" all the time, when I am talking TO them of course...cause I'm weird like that.

Oh, ellipses...did ya'll know that it takes only THREE dots to make up ONE ellipsis? Truth...anymore and you've just gone TOO far and the grammar police show up at the door and make you take a spelling test just for good measure.

Oh, GAWD, Evelyn--the WIGGLES need to DIE! (kidding) but holy jeezus, my friend's son thinks he IS "Greg Wiggle". Wears yellow shirts all the time, says all the silly sayings and songs. The kids DO love them, though, and we (gasp) actually DROVE to Syracuse (two hrs each way) to watch their live show. My husband and I were exchanging rolling eyes and "oh my gods" through the whole thing, but again, the kids had a ball.

Innus- "coca cola is my heroine"!!! I'm peeing myself over here!

JEss, SB brought me here too, last year. And as you can probably tell, it's not the movie that brought you here, but Fate (by way of that sexy dancing butt-oh-I-mean-man who had the lead) that has led you to this forum. It is going to be interesting to see where these "coincidences" lead, to say the least.

I promise I'll post more on the cell memory stuff in a bit. I have a "conference call" coming in in two minutes (so I'm actually going to be on speaker phone, playing my violin in an unused office while my friend on the other end plays his guitar on HIS speaker phone, 30 miles away prior to our gig this wknd. It's called Long Distance Rehearsing and it's totally cracking my ass up! But it works! Even though I can't hear him speak, only what he's playing, nor can he hear me speak. TOO funny. But hey, we're just THAT professional!) ;-)

Smooches and thanks for the kicks. I am on Round #2 with this cold again. Loverly.

Now, BUGGER OFF, all a' yuse, and get back to work! (except Millie, who can peacefully go about her day!)

Oh, and Valentine's Day? Ptah. You can keep it. Just ONE more commercialized thing to make us spend money. I'll have NONE of it! (but if you want to send me chocolates, you can! 600 Park Avenue, Rochester, NY 14607 atten:Dhershey. ;-)


tata!
Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on February 14, 2003 09:34 PMfrom IP:

Go peacefully about my day, huh, Dhi? This early morning I sent out more of my computer valentines, received others, made a valentine for Ellie before he walked into the kitchen for breakfast, (he left mine on my pillow last night...I shook it to see if a check would drop out..it didn't) let the cleaning lady in, wrote a snail mail letter to a friend who gave her computer up because she couldn't stand it, took a hysterical call from a cast member who said she heard an ugly rumor that our show was postponed again (it wasn't), let the cleaning lady out, and this was all in the first 2 hours of the morning!

Ellie always said that we are working harder in retirement than when we were working, but I assured him that we are enjoying it more now!!

Gotta go...gotta make a movie matinee! Gotta relax from all the excitement of the morning!

Love you all,

Grannie Mil

Posted by: GRANDMA MILLIE on February 15, 2003 12:49 AMfrom IP:

Paul, I just want to say that I really enjoy your dancing. You are blessed with great talent. Take care of yourself so that your talent can shine and be shared and enrich our world.

Posted by: Heidi Johnson on February 15, 2003 01:55 AMfrom IP:

Dhiana,
Explanation re "pissed as chooks":
The "pissed" refers to drunk, inebriated, suffering the effects of too much alcohol. It does not refer to urination, per se.
BTW, I had chooks when I was little.

Hope that clears that up. Obviously the result of transcontinental confusion.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 15, 2003 03:12 AMfrom IP:

DHIANA,
(My good woman)
Oh, I forgot to mention that on two occasions that during "visions & voices" relating to regressive/clairvoyant experiences, the name by which I was addressed was......wait for it.......DHIANA!! (or Diana, - can't tell, same pronounciation). I tell no lies.

What does it mean?.....I don't know! (YET)

I will you know if I ever work it out.
Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 15, 2003 03:51 AMfrom IP:

Way to go on the soda abstanence Tim!
I'm not drinking it either.

More later if possible,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on February 15, 2003 05:46 AMfrom IP:

Peter, darling Peter...HOW COULD YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT?! ;-)

In the immortal words of Sonny Bono: "Wowza."

Ok, here's the poop: (hahaha...I am SO freakin' funny, I know)

In my spiritual community, it was time I took a name, or found MY spiritual name, as I was at the point where I knew enough to make promises to myself that I would concentrate on continuing my Spiritual Journey in earnest. Call it Psychic Graduation, whereby you do not get one of those obnoxious little tassle thingies, you get your name, and go by that name in spiritual communities to mark your commitment and pursue your soul's "education".

During a meditation, I was told that I am "of" Deer, that by the gentleness of my nature (when I'm not busy bustin' YOUR balls) I was called to take the lessons of the Deer and apply them further to my life. A few weeks later that June(back on Earth now) my dogs--stupid STUPID idiotic genetically imprinted--dogs, ran off and as I was going down to the pond to find them, I heard a screaming of sorts...sounded like a calf bawling. Automatically, I knew what it was: my dogs were killing a fawn. I RAN to find them, kicked them aside, picked up the poor bloody fawn (who was about 2 months old and more than 40 lbs I'd say) and ran the quarter mile up hill back to the house, with this fawn bleeding out of it's nostrils. What I planned to do, I have no idea. I just needed to help the poor thing. But by the time I got home, it was dead in my arms.

Oh, I cried. Here I am, supposedly Miss Mother Nature, and I was responsible for THIS! (by letting the dogs run off).

Anyway, that day, I learned that I am not responsible for the whole world, I am resonsible only for a small (albeit important) part of it, just as certain gods and goddesses of Mythology were only responsible for small portions of their Whole.

My real name is Diane Murray, "Moray" of Atholl, Scotland. ("Hershey" is my married surname.) When it was time for my Naming Ceremony, I chose to stick closely to the name people know me by in every day life, but chose the patron goddess of old Scotland, and goddess of the Hunt and Wood--I'm a forest person, without a doubt--Diana. (Incidentally, "ana" or "an" in a name comes from "Creative life force" of the Aztec and Greek.)

But I couldn't just copy a goddesses name (since I, personally, don't believe in a hierarchy of gods/goddesses) and I could not discount the Deer part. Gaelic for "deer" is "fiadh", and if you want to make something the possessive case in Gaelic, (not all the time, but the way my consonants lined up with my vowels in this case) you put an "h" in ot, thus what I call my "Soul Working" name is "Fiadh Dhiana ap Willow" (Willow is the "family" with whom I currently am studying all things soul related--used to be more Wiccan, is now so freakin' new agey it's surprising us all, but because of circumstances JUST like these--that you were referred to as "Diana" and here I am talking to you--we stick together and learn and share.

GOD that was lengthy, wasn't it?

Of COURSE this took me weeks to figure out. And then, the night before my ceremony, I had a dream that I was reading a letter, penned from someone from the Other Side, and it said, "Your name is "Camiella"...and I was like, "WHAT? No it's not! I've worked REALLY hard on this name thing!" So who knows? Maybe I once WAS a Camiella...(Diana is also an Italian goddess as well...go figure.)

Anyway, since there already IS a "Diane" on this board, and I came to you mysteriously cloaked as "Dhiana", Dhiana I will stay...since I think we are doing powerful work as things lie now.

Can't wait to piece all of this together...

Sincerely moved, now I gotta more my arse and get home for dinner...it's still freaking TEN degrees here! That's Farenheit!

Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on February 15, 2003 06:10 AMfrom IP:

Hi everyone! I hope you have had a good day. I have been to the local U. library to get some more Australia pics, and have sausage rolls in the oven. I'm a heck of a Girl Scout! Valentine's day is almost over-my husband is working a 12 hour shift and my brother's grandsons are here to spend the night. I made(can you believe that)made them play outside. Sheesh. they are 10 and 8-most boys are all about playing outside, I know that my daughter is. I made them eat veggies and fruit, too. I asked why they didn't bring their bikes, since we are having some rare springlike weather, and they said that they had flats and the stepfather and Grandpa(my Bro.)didn't have a pump. My daughter said, "I could have fixed that, we have a pump."
So Peter, to answer your question, I have a Cannondale "woman's specific" bike. I just use it for riding, I only compete with myself. I just bought a used "Terry" frame, and am saving money for components. The first obstacle is finding 650 c wheels. Say, what size are on your time trial bike? I have another hybrid bike that I use for commuting and running errands. Soon,it will be decent weather to ride to work and with the gas prices, My husband and I both will ride to our jobs.
We watched SB last night,and if I didn't have a house of youngsters, I'd rent "Moulin Rouge".

Posted by: Mary Ellen on February 15, 2003 09:13 AMfrom IP:

Hi Mary Ellen,

Just curious,why not rent Moulin Rouge anyway? I am abesotted with Ewan McGregor. My two daughters just love the music and color and production. They are now 12 and 7. Couldn't break the 7 yr old of listening to the soundtrack last year.

Anyway, all is well. Hope all is well with everyone else. Seeing that it's almost 7:00pm here is California,Valentin's Day is over for most of you. HOpw it was wonderful. Whitney, so sorry to hear of your Grandad. It's really hard isn't it? Especially if he has been vital in the recent past. My dad was on a feeding tube for about 3 mos. He was really pretty out of ot lucidity wise. Don't know why we even bothered. He had lived a very full life, experiencing things that we will hopefully never have to. Total hungar. WW11, He even "captured" a Japanese solier. I put that in quotes. Dad was on the island of Guam. The poor solier was starving and surrendered. Dad dug graves in New York and stood on the Bread Lines. We have much to be greatful for. He was not the most attentive father, but I know that he was as much as his personality would allow him to be. He was a college proffeser teaching buisness law and economics. It was his time to go. I know that I will see him again. I will continue to pray for you and your family and your grandad's peaceful "graduation to Glory". Diane, I didn't forget about Audrey and her family and for you hubby's dad, Ann.

How is your son doing? Did you have to go to school with him today? Does he have President's Day off so you can do something together?

Lots of love to you all...


Margie

Posted by: Margie on February 15, 2003 10:06 AMfrom IP:

Hello All, I'm new here and am a big fan of SB.
Delurked to say hi, but may wait for the next thread to post, reply further, as there are so many posts. What I did read through after 3 days of thread chasing, and getting a feel of the group, topics, I must say I was very impressed with how incredible and kind everyone was and thought it was a very sweet, personal touch for Paul to also keep in touch w/his fanbase so directly. I also love the poetry and journal entries and life conversations shared by and with Paul and the group. What a beautiful mix of people, talents, interests and ideas. I think this is a lovely place to have discovered.

Wishing everyone at Paul's Corner a Happy Valentine's Day (ok one day past now), and a nice long weekend!

I noted that Oz is 15.5 hrs ahead of where I'm at. I'm in the Pac. NW, Seattle, WA, USA
So...my good mornings/good nights will have to be adjusted somewhat.

Anyway, Best to you all, and to Paul and family.

Katalina in Seattle

Posted by: Katalina on February 15, 2003 04:28 PMfrom IP:

dhiana - no camiella for you! you are of the forest!

pete and dhiana - what an exchange! Fascinating! Looking forward to the next!

elipising out of here...(lol) bhluedog

Posted by: bluedog on February 15, 2003 10:43 PMfrom IP:

Good morning Grandma.

Ann, I'm sad to hear about your nephew. So young! Thanks for your condolences. I just got back from checking on my grandfather earlier this morning and I found him sideways in his bed with his long legs poking out of the metal rails. I was able to find someone to help me and she changed him and we put some clean undercloths on him. Just as I was leaving, his oldest son and wife arrives, and forgive me for sounding bitter , but they are heading home and feel very comfortable leaving him on this lower maintenance floor. They haven't seen him like I have. They spend more time going out to dinner and even when he was well enough, they didn't bring him along. Is that anyway to visit your 95 year old dad?

My computer is messing up. I'd better post this. Forgive me for going on. It's heavy on my mind.

Love,
whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 15, 2003 11:49 PMfrom IP:

Whitney,
What a pity it is that all persons (in the family) can't share your compassion, love and caring for your Grandfather. I guess they just fool themselves about what's important.
No, I wouln't treat him that way either. You're not bitter, you're just rightfully disappointed. Take good care.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 16, 2003 05:27 AMfrom IP:

Happy Belated Valentine's Day, everyone!

Ann
About your son...I hate to tell you this, but 13 is one of those ages where the hormones
swing into play and many of us have strangers for offspring. My youngest is 14, and is just gettting his grades back up after a rough year or so. I would have been floored by it all since my older 2 didn't go through quite such changes, except a friend at work has a son a few years older and he went from straight A's to not caring at all. They aren't little anymore, and you can't treat them that way.
Boys react to everything as if you were nagging them, even if it is the first time you ask.
I had read the Mars and Venus books, and have to say you can see alot of that in growing boys,too.
It helps to realize that they aren't behaving this way to get on your nerves, it's how they are.
A different outlook on things. There is a comic strip called Zits, and the couple have a 15 year old boy at home, and my son and I both laugh at how right on it is. One strip had the boy telling his mom, just because I didn't do it the first 17 times you told me doesn't mean I didn't hear you!
I have come to think of teenagers of both genders as being in a state of permanent PMS, and find that helps considerably.
Evelyn makes some good points there. And thanks for the food link!
Stealing and lying seem more serious, and this girl sounds like bad news, but the more you keep
them apart...the more they'll fight it. Maybe it would be better to say you may see her in our house when someone is home, IF she treats everyone with respect.. Counseling can help, but if he is not cooperative, how much good can it do? Just asking.
And remember it isn't always drugs, alcohol, and/or sex, and to accuse him will just make
him more defensive. Ah, reading on, I see you are handling it. Oh, going to school? Good luck!

Peter, that's a fascinating narration and I look forward to more of them. I remember a woman who had had a weight problem saying she had dreams of being newborn, her mother had little milk and this was just before sanitized milk was available, and that she remembered the feeling of endlessly starving alone. Babies don'tknow someone is fixing a bottle in the next room. . .must be a very primal feeling.

Paul, glad to read that you and your wife are well aware of your daughter's situation and have it under control...I think your initial post was a surge of parental protectiveness, and we can all understand that! :)
Are the meat pies like Cornish pasties? And the sausage rolls sound like a fancier version of "pigs in a blanket".
I love those Aussie expressions; grouse esp just makes me chuckle, anyone know where that comes from?
A couple of not particularly relevant notes...I have chatted with a group of people for more than a couple years now, and one of them is from Germany. She came to the USA to visit more than once and the first time she did, her hostess laughed and said...Susanne doesn't sound German at all, she sounds Australian! Because that is where she learned to really speak English.
I recently bought and watched one of Mel Gibson's earlier films, Mad Max. Now I knew it had been overdubbed cuz no one thought anyone outside of Oz would understand the actors, but the dvd has the original voicetrack on it, and it was fine! In fact the voice of the character Night Rider seemed way off to me in the dubbed version
The original was much better.Of course, we've all had a lot more exposure to Australia-speak since Mad Max was filmed,thanks to Mel and Paul and others.

hugs to all,
Sally

Posted by: Deltalady on February 16, 2003 05:38 AMfrom IP:

Bluedog,

Bugger it!!.... looks like I'll miss the rodeo, waffles and all. Not too sure about the "cowboy hats up the wazoo" though!! I was more figurin' wearing that ten gallon hat on my head. (What's a wazoo anyway??!) I can really dig the look of the TG hat. Always had a good measure of admiration for Hoss Cartright. Wish Bonanza will was still running.
Guess they'd all be in retirement villages by now.
Wouldn't be the same.

Head'n up, movin' out.

Ramblin' Pete

Posted by: Peter on February 16, 2003 05:43 AMfrom IP:

Deltalady,
Seems we were posting concurrently.
I believe the nature of the ongoing impact of primal experiences is far more relevant than we are generally aware.
Survival is a huge motivator, esp. at that time around birth. Hence the importance of a loving, secure and nuturing environment.
I've come to understand how profoundly our early experiences shape our individual make up, even as adults. It's huge.
Glad you like my story. I'd like to tell some more, sometime.
Cheers.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 16, 2003 05:56 AMfrom IP:

Welcome Hiedi and Katalina, thank you for posting and we look forward to hearing more from you.

Another great Aussie word for you all ... Drongo! You call some one a Drongo when they are being a dill... "youre a bloody drongo mate" or "That blokes a flamin dill". I will let Peter explain.

A lot of people dont like the commercialisation of events ie Xmas, Valentines, Easter, Mothers Day etc nor do I, but they are great reminders for those of us that need them to just stop and say thank you every now and then You dont have to get right in to the spend spend spend mentality.

It is a lazy Sunday here to day. Dont feel like doing much but have got a few things to do. Sometimes it is important to just do nothing and lets face it you end up doing something all day any way!!! So today my daughter is having her birthday party - turns 7 on Tuesday. I have to walk the dogs and buy some stuff for dinner tonight - I am going to make a real hot red beef curry Indian style. After the party my eldest is having a friend over to do a homework project which I have been inlisted to help on. BTW my eldest is on crutches after almost breaking her ankle at school on Friday. This is three weeks after my middlest was on crutches after almost breaking her ankle jumping off garbage bins for fun!!

As my 40 th is looming I have finally brewed a beer which I will bottle and then present to my friends at my party. It is bubbling away nicely which means it is time for me to clean the bottles (28)in readiness for bottling.

I have been asked to audition for a tv show here (my new agent is doing good) but I have declined as it is not the type of role I am looking for. Actors dont usually say no , I guess we feel that as work is hard enough to get you take what ever you can get but I am looking for certain types of roles that will challenge me, develop me as a craftsperson and change the perception of the casting directors and producers out there. If I am offered something or asked to audition for something that does not fit into these guidelines I am not going to do it.

Dhiana and Peter - keep on going, love to hear more. I recently did a crystal healing meditation where I met with my spirit guides. Two Children, a Unicorn and a Winged American Indian came and spoke with me. No need to say more as what was said and who I am is reflected in what I write.

Love to all

Posted by: Paul on February 16, 2003 06:04 AMfrom IP:

Paul, two kids on crutches? I guess you, and more to the point they, have my sympathies and to them a complete and speedy healing and recovery. I hope the youngest stears clear of this and doesn't follow the trend, but being the youngest of three myself, the odds aren't too great on that one :) I "always" followed the example of my two older sisters. Happy Birthday to your youngest and your dinner sounds delicious. Yum! What kind of acting roles are you interested in pursuing?

Whitney, I also see the compassionate side in you and no bitterness, perhaps frustration, but that is totally understandable. Be well and know that your granddad is appreciating everything you are doing, even if he can't respond or express it right now. You are still in my thoughts.

Peter and Dhiana, both your stories have intrigued me and I, too, would love to hear more. I've had some experiences with spirits, I guess, although none have taken on physical form or become visual. Quite honestly, that would freak me out at this point and I'm not sure why. Sensing them, knowing that s/he / they are there, communicating in non-verbal forms with me is fine, but if it gets too close to "human" expression, I get nervous. Perhaps its some traces of scepticism or fear of the unkown ...

How is "limping cupid" doing? I hope you are feeling better and are recovering quickly. How is your friend Audrey doing? Still thinking about her, her family and you.
Same goes for you Ann re. your son and your father-in-law.

Welcome Katalina! A similar thing attracted me to this group when I first came accross it and I appreciate it more and more. Truly an amazing group of people that Paul has attracted to and gathered around himself.

On to lazy evening. Love to each and everyone!

Posted by: Evelyn on February 16, 2003 07:04 AMfrom IP:

Hey everyone.
A busy week here and the weekend is busy too. Doing a wedding party tomorrow and then volunteered to work on Presidents Day as most everyone is off so it's a great day for hair business.
Sticking to the water thing. I did break down and have a couple of sodas, but I've already lost 10 pounds...on the way down. Plus my middle son and I are "power" walking and taking my sister in laws dog with us every day. He was really huffing today and I said..Just keep saying I hate being fat..I hate being fat. and push it. He tells me he's fat, and he is obese...so it's worked he pushed it really really hard..And he will tomorrow.
I'm feeling much better you guys. Although I have to say from 37 to 40+ a guys brain just goes into reverse or shuts down. Yesterday at work it was slow and several of us had nothing left to do. Ursula (a stlyist) said let's go to Starbucks and get outta here. (she's from Chicago with a heavy accent)..I said sure. We get in her car and she breaks out her weed. It's a nifty little thing that looks like cigarette and you punch it in the stuff. Yes I did a couple of hits. Been forever. Oh my GOD. I was so messed up I could hardly walk..The dumbest damn thing I have done in quite some time. I will have to confess that they've made that stuff considerably stronger (I'm sure there are additives) since I was in college. GOD.
Stupidity lives on no matter..
So Paul...what is your preference? What type of role were you presented? Forgive me for pushing, but why not take it. It would get you back into what you DO and maybe not challenge you per se, but keep you on your toes. It may be a catalyst for other stuff...
Don't want to piss you off or anything like that..I'd never do that just a different perspective.
You know what you're doing...but for those of us that would love to see you acting sooner than later..why don't you expound on what you don't want versus what you do want.
Hope your daughters birthday was great. And the other two are feeling better. You don't worry about 40. It's really pretty cool. It's the ones that come so damn fast after it.
Have a great one you guys
Peace love and Happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 16, 2003 07:32 AMfrom IP:

Paul,
Goodmorning. Thanks for delegating the task of explaining "drongos & dills". LOL. I'll try.
It's a shame the job offer is not what you want, but the response looks promising. The new agent must be doing their job - that's very nice to hear.
Hopes the kids' injuries heal quickly.
Enjoy the birthday, enjoy the day off. Family time of that kind is priceless.
The curry sound great! You're making me hungry.
More betterer even than pies & sauce or deep fried dim sims. LOL

I'm working today (again, still?). Occupational hazard, worse luck, but it pays the bills.


Tim, 10lbs!!; I'm impressed. You're doin' a whole lot better than me. Good on you. Oops, goodonya.

All, the term drongo ranges from being strongly derogatory to mildly critical.
It means that the person is behaving fundamantally stupidly and/or irresponsibly. I think (not sure) it's sourced from the drongo bird. It can't be a very smart bird, if that's the case.
To call someone a "dill" is generally much milder than "drongo". It conotates silliness or foolhardiness, or sometimes naivety.
In each case, the severity and explicit meaning of the remark is framed by the person's delivery, including expressions, body-language and the context (isn't it always?).

Avagoodweekend. Coffee finished, back to work for me.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 16, 2003 07:56 AMfrom IP:

Hi guys. Sounds like you all are doing well. Whitney, whatever happens in the days to come, you should have peace of mind knowing that you truly were unconditionally loving towards your Grandpa. I know its not easy right now. I will send lots of good energy your way.

Well, I had a FEW beers this afternoon at a local bar. We also had some really hot chicken wings. My lips still feel like they're on fire. And now my men have gone out for the night to watch a motocross show, leaving me here alone with my burning lips. I'm just going to read and maybe watch a movie. Too damned cold to go back out!

Oh, Australia is sounding really wonderful tonight!

Hey Tim, people from Chicago don't think they have an accent. They can sound just like a Blues Brother and tell you that you're the one that sounds funny. Great city though. I love it.

See youse guys later,

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 16, 2003 08:01 AMfrom IP:

Paul,

Read your thoughts on the Game of life, have you heard of the writings of Florence Shinn? She wrote a great book called "The Game of Life and How to Play It". The book explains the rules very clearly and shows you how to play to "win". I must warn you it is a metaphysical book so it will either speak to you or not.

Mahalo nui loa for all you've given to the world.
Sybil

Posted by: sybil on February 16, 2003 11:16 AMfrom IP:

Drongo and dill ... love 'em! Pretty sure they'd drop a net over me here if I let them slip into conversation! I've had that prob (not the net!!!),but the slang crossover even from Internet chatting with people in different parts of the country.
Paul, over there in crutch country, hope the healing is swift and complete. Beef curry sounds good . . . pretty soon we are going to need a recipe thread around here! yum
And kudos on having the courage to turn down what you don't want to do.
Quite a quartet of spirit guides,too.
Happy Birthday to your daughter!
40 ain't so bad, esp for men,lol.
Peter, any time you are ready . . post away!
hugs,
Sally

Posted by: Deltalady on February 16, 2003 12:07 PMfrom IP:

timmer, stupid you say? (lol) I swear to god I've got to meet you someday! I'm laughing so hard I can hardly type! What were you thinking? only you! only you!

later all

Posted by: bluedog on February 16, 2003 12:47 PMfrom IP:

Paul...If it doesn't feel right, don't go there. Let your heart lead you. Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 16, 2003 08:12 PMfrom IP:

I have been worried about mentioning dance and not acting. Paul, I enjoy your acting too but lots of people can act and not as many can dance on the movie screen and come across as you do. I only wish I had a chance to see you on stage. (Folks, imagine Paul doing the tango numbers in "True Lies" or the dance in "The Mask of Zorro".)

Two questions: Paul, what are you selling? And what does the button labeled "FORGET PERSONAL INFORMATION" do? Will I forget who I am if I click on it? :)

Posted by: Heidi Johnson in Bow NH USA on February 17, 2003 02:31 AMfrom IP:

Morning all.

Evelyn: Thx for the acknowledgement to a newbie. My grandma, on my Dad's side, was named Evelyn. She was Finnish. I was too young to know her well.
Yes, this is a very nice group of people.
Anyway thanks again, and have yourself a great day!

Paul - Thx for the nice hello/welcome!
Happy B-day to your youngest daughter, and I hope both daughters in crutches have a swift recovery! Jumping garbage cans, eh? Would that happen to have been on inline skates? *chuckle, gulp* Oh the horror stories my siblings and I now can relay to our parents, who would have shuddered to think of all that we did. (i.e. my brother & I catamaraning(sp?) down on our skateboards from the top of two consecutive, extremely steep hills on our neighborhood block. Leg to leg & connected hand to hand while seated on our boards. Or, ropeswinging out over a ravine w/all the other kids who were doing it too, on our bikes. *yikes* )
On a separate note, re: work: I think it's really cool that you have such true, high priorities and principles both in life and work. Nothing wrong w/being selective in your roles. Best of luck to you on this. I trust you'll find something that fits! BTW: re: B-day: 40 is sooooo young these days! I'd better believe it, as it's only a few yrs. away. I jumped solo out of a plane on my 30th. It was a dare I couldn't easily refuse as it was a gift from boyfriend. (ok I decided to accept the challenge, and met it!) Wonder what 40 will hold? hahaha (I am not an adrenaline junkie, promise - just willing to try new things!) cheers!

BTW: this board makes my stomach growl with all the food discussed here, spicy & otherwise, and that's not always a good thang. Does anyone like Thai food? I do like Indian food...have tons of indian spices. (BTW, I've heard Tumeric is good for the heart and metabolism!!) I'm from a very WASPy family that prefers bland foods. Where oh where did I come from?!!) I've tried to go vegan, but learned that this body needs protein both to maintain weight,fitness and have good energy. I still prefer a more vegetarian balance 'though, w/small portions of meat, few carbs, some fats/oils. It's working. *grinn*
But, what's not yet integrated is my level of regular exercise. I'm working on that, as are many others here, I'm thinking. I get bored in a gym, so I prefer to get out and DO something active, hike, swim, windsurf, ski, run.., although lately I must say it's dwindled. Like many others, I'm chained to my computer at work and I know that's slowing me down metabolically, not to mention getting older, plus where's the time we had to do all these things when we were younger? Life hits, responsibilities, stresses increase, time decreases. There ya go. *grrrr*. What I have been doing lately in an attempt to get back on track, is researching online for (dareisayit?) dance classes (not foreign to me, just absent for a longwhile) that will make me forget about the workout and think about the activity and fun instead, while shaping up. I'm looking into Agentine Tango, Cuban Salsa and East Coast swing, maybe Lindy (the first 2 are seductively calling me). There's a good studio that I've had my eye on for a year and I think now I'll follow up in person. Next month is my goal as I'd be interrupting the previous sessions to come in out of sequence right now. So one month to further shape up before donning girlistuff, dress, nylons and dancing shoes eeek! 10 yrs ago, no problem..now -leeeetle problem...soon to be dealt with, however. *smirk* I've grown shyer in recent years, but, I love dance, movement, music so that will have to be the common denominator initially. So, good luck to all here working hard toward their aim to be Fit goals! Kudos to Tim, he's getting out and _Doing_ it! I tried a few Pilates classes last year and they kicked my butt, I felt it was too hard and quit, which I usually don't do! In theory, I might be up for it now, however. Last year I was not as active as I now am, and I still have a little ways to go to be where I want to be. Eye on the goal, keep moving forward, right?!

Sending hugs and well wishes to all taking care of elderly or sick relatives. My heart goes out to you and your families. May you be comforted as you are comforting. xoxoxoxox

Wow, must be Monday now in Austr.
I'm just starting my lazy Sunday afternoon.
My furry feline's getting jealous of online time. Walking all over my keys, little devil. With a name like Sinbad, he lives up to his name.haha

Hugzn Kicks's (*wink*)to all,
Katalina

Posted by: on February 17, 2003 07:47 AMfrom IP:

If you key in your Name and email address it will come up everytime you decide to post. If you decide you don't want it to "remember it" you tell it to "forget my personal information"
Paul sells computers. I've been asking him about a laptop but he just won't tell me where to get it... : )
bluedog..
If you only knew how utterly mortified I was. Everyone there is very cool but that really was going to far especially since I had no idea how I'd react. I thought I did..just calm and cool but this stuff took the rug out from under me...I could feel my eyes turning from side to side. Just too damn bizarre for me. Not to mention stupid. Being 42 is really crazy. You want to be young. Look young. Feel young. It's a sad thing to watch your body start succumbing to gravity. You try to keep up with the younger ones or be open and not act too prudish. Even when you know better. You're absolutely right though. Only me. A psychiatrists dream.

Hope everyone had a pleasant and peaceful weekend. I did a wedding party today. Those are draining, good $$ but damn they're pushy and the mothers of the brides...god help em.
Here's to peace!!!
May it prevail over the prospect of war.
Peace, love and happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 17, 2003 07:47 AMfrom IP:

Thanks to all for the warm welcome. I enjoyed the thread regarding Aussie words. Actually, in preparation for my trip (10 days away!!) I was doing some research on Australia and came across a little phrase book put out by Lonely Planet. Lots of interesting stuff in there--discusses UK and US influences on Aussie language. For ex: they favor our American "truck" over the British "lorry," yet still use "biscuit" over "cookie." A shout out to the other US northeast coasters on this forum--thinking about Australia is the only thing getting me through this record-setting blizzard (up to 2 feet of snow expected here in NYC!).

Posted by: Jess on February 17, 2003 11:46 AMfrom IP:

BIG HELLO! ... probably nobody here would remember me. I've posted a couple of times, a long, long time ago. It's nice to have a cozy place where you can drop in one in once in a while, when you have something you want to say. I've just read the newest thread, and it got me thinking that one of the reasons that I've been doing better these days is that I've let go of my expectations in life. I just take things as they come & choose to be grateful for whatever
good things come along my way; cause I guess I used to be one of 'hem people who lived life with an imaginary bluemap in my head, when things don't go my way I start to panic. But now I choose to be more accepting of fate. I don't see triumphs & failures as two separate entities anymore, it's just life, everything is life.
& there's really no point in trying to wield it, cause you can't really. Myself, I'm just in along for the ride. :D

It's best to leave with a smile, so here's a bunch! :) :) :) :)


-mushr

Posted by: mushr on February 17, 2003 09:40 PMfrom IP:

Paul, that's interesting that two of your Guides are children! Very non-threatening, and something with which (or to whom) you can relate easily. Evelyn, they won't take a physical form if it will frighten you, you're right. Generally the "scary ghost" stories are either of spirits who are socially inept/unaware, or of the people who are telling them who are/were unaware of the cycles.

Paul also mentioned the unicorn - can I just TELL you that I have NO idea (still to this day) why I had a facination with unicorns when I was younger? I had all sorts of greeting cards and jewelry boxes and posters in my room. Some of the artwork was so stunning and the colours used so vibrant and beautiful, that I had no problems imagining myself in the fields/forests right alongside them. I would like to see (for curiosity's sake) where that--and about a BILLION other things similar to that--come from.

I've not met my Spirit Guides (I don't think) yet, but I've been introduced to my totem animals, Owl to my right (right = action, physical work in this body) and Pelican on my left (left = cerebral, thought-forms, spiritual paths taken) and they've helped a lot in certain situations. (Pelican actually notified me of my Dad's death-it was the first CLEAR vision I had, or least that I recognized as a Vision.

Ya ever read any Marion Zimmer Bradley books? ("Mists of Avalon" series) She refers to this ability to see visions as having "The Sight". I always thought that would be SO cool to have...well, be careful what you wish for, is all I can say. Just yesterday, the boys and Bill and I were playing hockey down on the pond (um, yah, it was 9 degrees, so? Brrrr!) and my four yr old didn't want to take his fleece hat off to put on his helmet cause it was so cold, so I let him go (he was on boots, not skates). He was doing ok for about ten minutes, then I looked at him and thought "Man, he is gonna' slip and fall on his back and crack his head against the ice." Ten seconds later, that is exactly what happened.

This happens to me all the time, these little ten second pre-flashes of (usually) "wouldn't it be funny if...(insert action here)?" and then it happens. Perfect, stupid example: the chickens are out scratching around and I notice one up on my wicker outdoor furniture..."Don't you DARE poop on that!" And she does.

I HAVE avoided auto accidents--lots--by this however, and I think I told you about snatching my child out of the way when he ran in front of a sleeping dog who, turns out, became startled that he was all of a sudden in her area and jumped up to grab his throat. But since I had his arm already and had started to yank him away already, the dog only nipped him in the jaw.

But it's not foolproof. I never saw my lay-off coming, or boyfriend's affairs or any of THAT helpful stuff. And I can't look at an animal and know what's wrong with it (the Chook Whisperer...ha! I wish.) although people are clear views to me. Maybe I should go give Sylvia Browne a run for her money? ;-)

Ah! "Bhluedog"...very funny!

STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD! I have to go get my braces tightened. (yes, at age 36...AGAIN! But this time for word-formation's sake...an English major and Singer in Irish band can't go 'round lisping her lyrics, now, can she?) And I have a LOVELY venison stew in the 'fridge downstairs that I have to save til after the procedure, then try to struggle through it. Wah.

Ok, Miss Whiny-ass is leaving now.

Keep up the excercise everyone--I used to have a "CILO" bike, an Italian rode-racing bike, back in "the day" when I used to do mini-triathalons, and lived in Lake Placid. When I was 20. And weighed 127lbs. GOD I looked good! Oh well, had my day in the sun. It's Whit's turn now! ;-)

Love ya'all,
Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on February 17, 2003 10:20 PMfrom IP:

Hi Mushr!
I DO remember! good to see you again! Great outlook you have managed to obtain.

Best of luck!
Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on February 17, 2003 10:30 PMfrom IP:

serious question: how does one go about meeting their spirit guide/s?


Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 18, 2003 12:30 AMfrom IP:

Note to Millie, Whitney, Linda, and others:

If you have a project re: Paul, please organize it through the Yahoo group, or you're missing at least 160 people who might give input and support.

I made this site to bring fans together, not split them into little groups of "Paul's Corner" and "Yahoo Group". I want us all to be in on everything.

If you're not sure what the heck I'm talking about, please write me: frykitty@ureach.com , or see the page here: http://www.paulmercurio.net/mailinglist.shtml .

Thanks!

Posted by: Cat on February 18, 2003 01:52 AMfrom IP:

Sorry, Heidi and Jess, I didn't mean to ignore you when I "only" welcomed Katalina. Call it a momentary mental lapse on my part, so belatedly "Welcome!" Sybil, are you new too? I don't remember you posting since I have so, Welcome to you as well.

Katalina, I love Thai food!!!! Very high yum factor, as my friend Ari would say (sorry, but every once in a while he and I linguistically drop to the level of our students and it doesn't matter which language we use ...) What language is your name from? It's beautiful and yep, I love my and your grandma's name, though the meaning of this name is quite a responsibility, it means "Mother of all living" Wow!

Mushr, of course I remember you! You gave me a digital hanky, which I've carried with me ever since, used it a few times, too. Very sweet of you! and you sound so much more positive! Remember your first post here? The difference is so striking! You'll get a standing ovation from me for that! :-)

Dhiana, I thought a bit more why I don't think I'm ready for visual representations of spirits yet and it has a lot to do with the deamonization of spirits that was part of my Christian upbrining, where the spirits were only deamons and devils and at that time I've only sensed harmful spirits that terrified me as a child and also as a young adult and so in many ways my first encounters with spirits were negative. The most positive encounter thus far was the night my Dad died. The instant he died, not only did his facial expression change from pain to absolute peace, happiness and joy,--he was glowing with happiness and radiated joy which only intensified over the course of the following days--there was also a holy presence/spirit that entered the room immediately, cast a glow over the room and brought this amazing sense of peace, serenity and beauty into all of our grieving souls. None of us wanted to leave and we spent about half the night there. This spiritual presence stayed with us and got us through the first tough week and we all knew that wherever Dad is now, he's okay, he's happy and having the time of his life. This spirit has visited me many times, somtimes though it was Dad himself who occured and these experiences have helped me adjust my initial negative experience and also to take these encounters more seriously or believe in their power and existence, but I still find myself at odds about these encounters, since they are still strange to me, so I would also like to ask the question that Katalina asked, how do you meet spirit guides? Yep, I also have had these split second before it happens revelations here and there, but sometimes when I wish I had had them, they didn't happen. Why do you think that is?

Love to all!

Posted by: Evelyn on February 18, 2003 05:11 AMfrom IP:

Oh, Peter, I forgot to thank you. You are VERY good about sending warm air my way !!!! You just caused a 20 + C temperature warm up now we are around 0 C and I'm tempted to pull out the shorts :-) yep and wear them too. Just thought you should know how powerful you are. LOL & Dhiana, I'll share a bit of this heat wave with you, 9 F is not cool!

Posted by: Evelyn on February 18, 2003 05:16 AMfrom IP:

Mushr, great to hear from you again and no you have not been forgotten. Glad to read you back!!

Chook whisperer....mmm it would have to be a comedy!

Cybil thanks for the suggestion on the book I'll have a look for it.

Posted by: Paul on February 18, 2003 06:40 AMfrom IP:

Hey! im doing good! just been loaded down with school work so im not gone forever! lol! we have had so much rain here lately! alot of flooding and even a apartment building fell over yesterday because a mud slide! :( no one has died that I've heard of! thankfully! I hope everyone is doing well and that the weather isn't too bad where u are! if your up north! the news said that in new york and places like that it was the worse snow storm in like 7 yrs!
anways....

Grandma, How have you been! well I have your doing wonderfully!

Paul, what kind of tattoos do you have? I want one someday....but I don't think I have to guts! lol
Love to all
Kelli

Posted by: Kelli on February 18, 2003 07:23 AMfrom IP:

Greetings! And a big hello to Sybil, Heidi J., Katalina, Jess. Also, nice to hear from you again, Mushr. I had to give up the idea that I was in control, too.

The Limping Cupid survived the floral work last week. I don't know if I want to get into this again on a regular basis. My back aches and my hands still hurt. But I need to work. So I guess I'll get back to my resume tomorrow.

Now that you mention animal totems, Dhiana, I think I'll get out my medicine cards and play with them. Don't remember which animals came up the first time I did a card spread. I am attracted to certain animals, though, like bears and dolphins.

Paul, I hope your youngest enjoyed her birthday party and that your eldest is on the mend. And there is no such thing as a lazy day, especially when you have kids and animals.

Audrey is going in for surgery on Friday. I saw her briefly today and she seemed frazzled and discouraged. If I'm not working on Friday, I want to spend some quiet time focused on her as she goes through the operation.

I love Thai, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Mexican, Italian and French food. Can't eat any of it right now on the Atkins weight loss plan; but maybe add it later on the maintenance plan. I can't eat the really spicy foods, either. I plateaued on the weight loss last week because I got off track on those long workdays. But from what I've experienced so far, I think some of these diet gurus are right when they talk about adjusting our relationship to food. Sometimes we just don't notice when we're nibbling on this or that — even healthy stuff — out of boredom or stress or as part of socializing. It adds up. It's also hard to break that "three hearty meals" mentality.

Evelyn, interesting observations about the influence of religious training on the welcoming of spirits. I think my reservation about seeing spirits originates from the same place. We got images of sad and lost souls or saints, nothing in between. And thank you for sharing the story about your dad's passing.

Off to read before bed...

Posted by: Diane on February 18, 2003 01:08 PMfrom IP:

Morning
*lifts latte mug to toast* to all in PC (cheers to all the M'curios) from Seattle.
(Yes, it's raining....)

Evelyn: thx for sharing ~origin of your name. "Earth mama" hmmm? *grinn* Like Eve/Adam..
My screen name was a romantic bestowal from a really good friend (old flame) long ago now used by others of latin descent to de-anglicize (sp?)& play w/my name(i.e. the latin dance clubs or when I go out w/buds to listen to flamenco guitar *smile*). IRL my name is the pagan Irish version meaning "filled w/strength, purity and truth." But I don't go by it as a rule, since my parents only used it when I was in trouble!!!??!!!
Those mischievious elfin folk...must run in the blood, I think, never to be outgrown *wink*.

Also, it was a nice story about your father. Thx for sharing. Rarely, but sometimes, I have dreams of a couple relatives who passed on. I think they come in dreams because they know my heart/senses couldn't take a waking visitation. I'd be scared out of my wits. The dreams are usually just feelings of their personality presence and an overall message sent through emotions communicating to me that they love me very much and not to worry or feel guilty about not spending enough time w/them in life and not being present at the end to say goodbye. Sometimes in my apt., I get little breezes (when no windows, doors are open) that are tinged w/a pretty light floral or perfumed scent (not one of mine), that triggers an unreachable but somehow familiar memory. I've often wondered about this as this does happen frequently. I don't get a bad feeling when this happens, just an awareness that something unusual is happening or is around me. I try not to get creeped out by it or think about it much. *eyes move from left to right*

Diane: Thx very much for the hello/welcome! (it can be a little scary being new...thx.) I like your nickname: Limping Cupid. Hope you find what you're searching for floral-wise in jobs. I've fantasized about leaving my computer/admin field to go work w/plants, the land, just garden, landscape or something. *dream..sigh* Very interesting about your medicine cards. Are they Nat. Am in origin? I lived in SW states for 4 yrs and loved it. Fell in love w/history and culture of Hopi, Zuni, Anasazi (myths, stories, etc.)Should have taken advantage of my interest while living there...but it only took root when I came back to the Pac. NW (also rich in this kind of history, coastal tribes). I'd go back in a heartbeat if only the salaries matched the ones up here. Cut in half, unfortunately, and that doesn't work for me presently. But the land, the energy, the history, the sense of the spiritual is powerful down there. I never felt more alive than in the desert. But it still lives on in soul memory for me. Very much w/me still - maybe for always. Do you have any info on totems such as crow, large cats (panther, cougar), squirrel, hawk? Just thought I'd ask.

Greetings to the snowbound noreasters, midwesterners, southeasterners. Happy snowangels, snowfights and cozy wishes to you. I'll be happy to take some of your snow off your hands. We've got zero this season, and we need it!
Sorry to hear about those being flooded or losing power. Hope things clear up soon!

Goooooo Peace rallies! Was so happy to see such a global (and national) response to call for peace and hold these leaders accountable. Holding good thoughts for all esp. in Mideast.

Hugz from latteland. (my favorites: double, grande soy carmel or toffee latte) Subst. for coffee is usually a grande Chai or green tea w/honey. Others have fave coffee drinks -- anyone anyone? *grinn*

:^) Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 19, 2003 12:59 AMfrom IP:

BTW: does anyone in Austr. have any or know of any good indigenous tribal music/groups (from Australia) w/drumming, ancient instruments, etc. that I could locate? I've always been interested in this. thx.
Have a good day
:^Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 19, 2003 04:09 AMfrom IP:

Katalina
Sorry a late welcome from me. My favorite latte used to be a quadruple shot grande latte. Incredible jolt of energy when I was driving from Burbank to West LA...I can't handle them anymore. Just a double tall latte. And in the summer lest we forget a Mocha Frappacino. MMMMMMMM

Still hoofing it around my neighborhood. Stomach is tightening up...and drinking lots of water.

Peace love and happiness everyone.

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 19, 2003 09:02 AMfrom IP:

Hi everyone. Been thinking about all of you constantly.

We have enough snow here to last the rest of my lifetime. Wish I was on the other end of the world and having summer.

Apologies to anyone living in NYC on Saturday and trying to get anyway fast on 1st, 2nd, or 3rd from about 42nd to 67th. I think NYC would have done better with a moving march. As it was we walked forever. Don and I finally stopped at 53rd and 3rd and held the banner my daughter painted. Incredible sight to watch the people go by. Even more incredible to get home and read about the other cities around the world. Really something to have been part of. As the weather warms up I'm sure the protests will grow. Let's just hope that there isn't a war. Don (husband) thinks it will start on March 1st (my birthday) because it is a new moon and will give our troops the full advantage of the night vision gear. I sure hope he is wrong!!

Did anyone else go to a protest on Saturday? We met an Aussie on the subway who had come for the demonstration. But it sounds like you had big enough ones in Sidney and Melbourne that he could have just staid home.

Just got back from the evening job (@10:30) and need to go eat my yogurt and get to bed. Bye all.

PS. Tim - Apples or PCs?

Posted by: Heidi in NH on February 19, 2003 11:24 AMfrom IP:

Evelyn- *giggles* I do sound more positive, it's positively scary. hhmmm... what can I say, i'm still sullen sometimes, I still feel like there's a dark cloud over my shoulders, but you know things pass, & afterwards you realize you're okay. I've found out that when you hit rock bottom, there's no way to go but up... (if you don't give up dat is)

Dhiana- how have you been?... happy I hope :)


Hi Paul- it feels great to be remembered, like meeting old friends :)

see you later!

-mushr :D

Posted by: mushr on February 19, 2003 12:50 PMfrom IP:

From the "horse whisperer" to the "chook whisperer"! Only at m'curio's! Only at m'curio's!!

later

Posted by: bluedog on February 19, 2003 12:54 PMfrom IP:

Katalina,

For Australian indigenous/tribal/rock groups search on band named "Yothu Yindi".
There are very well known in Australia.
Listen (esp.) to song "Treaty".

Posted by: Peter on February 19, 2003 01:26 PMfrom IP:

Good morning Grandma! Hope you're well. I've missed reading your posts. Thanks for reaching out to me via personal email. You are genuinely sweet!

Happy day to everyone. I start at the bottom of the thread and try to work my way up to where I left off, but I don't want to get to far before I forget anything I might want to say.

I would love to see a spirit. I agree with you Evelyn. A typical Biblical upbringing assures that you won't be expecting any encounters. There's a verse somewhere that says that the dead can't see us. I'm keeping an open mind. I've seen an interesting program on a woman who is visited frequently by her dead dad. It's always very positive. Thanks for sharing the story of your dad. An experience like that would be so reassuring! Mother of all Living! Wonderful name!

Cat, it's not that we want to be in little groups; not everyone knows what a fan site like yours can do. You may have to educate us a little. I'll poke around the site more as I get time. You really are a sweetheart for doing it!

Hey Paul. Hope you're well. You not only attract people through your work (and charisma), you draw them back again! Welcome to the prodigal Mushr.

As I said, I haven't read up very far, but hey kelli! Sounds like you've been away a bit too. Hey to Suz, Dhiane, Diane, bluedog, texas, Jess, Oh Tim I've missed you, Peter, Grandma, Evelyn I said hi to you earlier, Innussiq, Linda and all. I've been spending time with my grandpa and I haven't had heat in this room for over a weeks now so I'm less inclined to sit and read the wonderful posts to these threads.

I'm still on my exercise quest though I admit I'm a day behind because it was so cold here this week, I couldn't work out in this room. I should have the problem fixed today.

Have a kick ass moment right now everyone!
Love!!!
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 19, 2003 09:18 PMfrom IP:

Hello all. Please forgive me for being lax in my cyber life but my real life is so demanding. Everyone at home was sick this week and now it appears to be my turn. I'm just loving the weather too *dripping scarcasam*!
Hi mushr, I remember you too! Hello to new friends Heidi and Katalina. Kicks to Whitney and Tim, and a goodonya to all you peace marchers. Oh yes, and a big hi to Grandma Millie! I hope everyone is well.
Peace.

Posted by: Innussiq on February 19, 2003 09:48 PMfrom IP:

Hi everyone!

I have a cool announcement. I hope Paul won't mind me taking over his Corner for a post.

Would you like to see Paul work with Baz Luhrmann again? Well, I can't give you the details, but it turns out we can get a letter directly to Baz. Millie, Linda, and Whitney have put together a beautiful, respectful letter (with Paul's blessing), and it's now posted over at my site:

http://www.frykitty.com/petition

The letter is done petition style, so everyone can add their name. As I'm writing, there are already 60 e-signatures! Let's band together and show our love for our favorite actor.

PS to Paul: Yeah, I know this has to be a little embarrassing, but your fans are big opportunists, and we couldn't pass this one up!

Posted by: Cat on February 19, 2003 10:00 PMfrom IP:

Thanks, Cat, you said it beautifully! Yes, I have been out of the loop while working closely with Linda and Whitney on the letter to Baz on Paul's behalf One of my dear friends said "It was pure poetry" and why not, Paul, it comes from our hearts, because of what you mean to all of us.

I picked up over 100 signatures just from my film seminar last night in our retirement village, where so many seniors always ask about you, Paul.

You have touched them, as the true story of 9/11 explains. I read the letter to the audience, and when it came to the story of the 9/11 evening, I was almost unable to finish, because of the emotion I still feel.

Please sign, everyone, and thanks!

Love,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Millie on February 19, 2003 11:05 PMfrom IP:

Thank you Peter for the Yothu/Yindi and "Treaty" recommendation. I'll be checking this out today!
I really appreciate this! BTW: are you the avid cyclist of this group? (I like it, just prefer mtn biking w/o tearing up the land too bad...try to go in designated areas or use it inner city on hills...looooots of hills in Seattle *roll eyes*)
Have a good eve! :-)

Hi Evelyn! Whatchoo reading now? I'm re-reading the Red Tent & the Secret Life of Plants (I'll get authors later).

Can I say 'hi' to Whitney and Grandma Millie? *smile* I've signed the petition too.

Hi back to Innussiq. Wow, what an interesting name. This may be repetitious as I'm new, but what does your name mean?

Hi bluedog. What's a 'chook whisperer?' Should I go thread hunting for background or will you spill? ;^) Have a good day!

java toast from (& the workday begins...grrrrr)
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 19, 2003 11:56 PMfrom IP:

Whitney,
You are indeed a wonderful individual for showing your grandpa so much support & love.
It must be damn cold there. Hope the heating is fixed OK. We don't want it to interfere with the workouts, do we! I've been horrendously busy too, and somewhat distracted as well. Take care.

Katalina,
Get a copy of the "Filthy Lucre Remix" of Treaty. It's the really good one.
Yes, I'm the MB cyclist (at the moment). It's purely for the workout, so I never venture off-road. It's currently replacing road cycling and distance running (my first love in exercise), while I'm rebuilding my sorry body. The upright riding position is very comfortable.

Posted by: Peter on February 20, 2003 02:18 AMfrom IP:

Katalina, go to http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/4076/index1.html to look up the Animal Spirits' Wisdom/Messages. Scroll down to the bottom and there are all the links for each animal.

Also, check out an album called "Deep In Didge", Tribal Trance.

Peter et all, on the Vision thing: Incidentally, at Full Moon circle Sunday night I was "receiving" energy (it was my turn to be in the middle while the girls tone or center their attention on me). I asked to "help make me more aware of the vibrations and changes going on around me". While I was having this REALLY cool vision of me, inside a crystal palace, another girl was having a vision of me as a fountain, showering down rainbow sparkles to the Earth. And the most interesting part I thought, was this: I was lying on the floor, with my head in my friend's lap (she's pregnant, so has a lot of energy to amplify) and she told me--later-- she was TOTALLY in the "outback", hearing the music of the didgideroo, and birds that live only there (although, when questioned, she has no idea HOW she knows what birds sound like that live there. She just KNEW she was seeing this.)

But she knew she was ME seeing these things. I'd never told her of my indescribably love of didge music, nor does she havey any idea that I chat with you Oz-folk frequently.

Huh.

Ok, that's the update from this neck o' the woods, that and it broke 30degrees today! Woopie! I'm breaking out the bikini top and starting my gardening! (NOT! I'd have to shovel three feet of snow first.)

Ok, car in the shop, gotta finish work so I can pay for the idiotic thing. I'm all for the days of cart and horse, honestly.

Kisses from afar (peppercinis on the pizza a lunch),
Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on February 20, 2003 02:48 AMfrom IP:

Dhiana,

A most enlightening experience for your pregnant friend! I have as yet had no personal contact with other living persons re things metaphysical. My experiences thus far have been personal and specific, focused on things that hold the key to what's of greatest and most immediate concern. Aren't I always the pragmatist?!!
The most "real" experience was being visited by my twin sister, who I previously knew nothing of.
She passed over not long after our conception. I was out walking, miles from anywhere. Suddenly, a rather loud voice interrupted in my head. It was unexpected and totally out of context with any other current thoughts.
The voice said: "One of us lived, one of us died".
I continued to walk, but for about 5 minutes I was totally conscious of a girl walking with me on my left. I could "see" both of us walking together. I had my left arm over her shoulder.
I felt very comforted. I felt complete. It was then that I understood that something had been missing. I realised that it was my twin, and I had been without her company all this time. I don't believe we are meant to be seperated. I feel that she sacrificed her earthly existence so that I would have a better chance of surviving, in order to complete my given tasks.
She has visited since, in meditation.
None of these experiences have ever caused me any distress or concern in any way. It has only brought me joy.

Posted by: Peter on February 20, 2003 05:09 AMfrom IP:

Sorry, I have to do this. My daughter is putting her website back up. I am so proud of her. If you care to, please visit www.remj.com. Pics, original music, etc. Thanks.

Posted by: Heidi in NH on February 20, 2003 05:52 AMfrom IP:

Katalina, to the best research I can get done innussiq means friend but more like a friend who is by love a brother or sister. As far as I know there is no literal rranslation. I've been trying to find out more but there isn't a lot of resources for inuit study.

Posted by: Innussiq on February 20, 2003 06:30 AMfrom IP:

Peter: thx for the F.L Treaty remix rec. I'll see if I can find it. Sorry to hear about your recovery process, but hope things are progressing well for you. (Phys.Ther?) Also: what a beautiful vision of your twin. W/more exper., 'perhaps, perhaps, perhaps..' I'll become more at ease w/these types of events if/when they occur. Take care.

Dhiana: thx for weblink to totems & Deep in Didge Trance rec. sounds Kool.
30degrees!!whew! Break out the shorts!*smile*
I can relate. In Seattle we do that for our elusive "sunbreaks" .. you know, those miniscule cloud breaks alluding to bluesky & that yellow orb that gives us the illusion of warmth & warms our hearts-if not our skins *grinn*. Anyone brought up in a warm climate thinks we're loco for doing this. They're all wearing sweaters&fleece while we're peeling down. hee hee.

Innusiq: I _knew_ there was a reason I felt drawn to and curious about your name. I love learning about the Inuit. I'm a big fan of BBC/PBS/TLC/Discovery channels and catch progs like this whenever I can. Haven't done any reading up on this as of yet, however. Most of my books relate to Amer. SW tribes. (Shame on this NW girl.)
Seattle's still not as rich as Canada, BC area in this history/culture, 'though. Still, I could check out the U of WA Anthro libraries. Ah not enough hrs in a day to research all this stuff. In my next life, right? You don't happen to live up in AK do you?

Hi to the Mercurio's. Hope everyone's having a good week so far... :-)

Hugz,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 20, 2003 07:15 AMfrom IP:

Speaking of children and second guessing ourselves, as Paul was saying in the post that started this latest chain, I have struggled with what to tell my girls. They are so eager to charge out into the world and make their mark. But the vast majority of us have little or no success in achieving our goals. Worse yet if we have early success and then, for whatever reason we fall short.

Should I tell my girls, as I was told, that they can do anything they set their minds to? It took years of pain and disappointment and being my "own worst friend and ... own best enemy" before I finally realized that this is a lie. But if I tell them to be careful, not to wish for too much, not to put too much of themselves out there, am I over protecting, stifling, and degrading their potential? Such a fine line to walk between protecting them and supporting them.

Posted by: Heidi in NH on February 20, 2003 10:24 AMfrom IP:

Heidi
I'm already having discussions with my children. They've watched me struggle (A LOT) the past few years with my desire to do something I love. They KNOW life isn't easy. It's emblazoned on my face almost everyday.
I tell them that the world is an adventure land. It's a game. You need to have fun playing it. Sometimes you'll win and sometimes you'll lose. But all in all it's just the "game of life." There is no perfect answer all the time. Just be aware of when you're enjoying something and enjoy it. Mark it in your brain. And when things go badly then think of the things that made you happy. They watched me struggle with my mom's death. They've seen me go from a complete wreck to including her in our conversations about anything at anytime, without tearing up and breaking down. 6 years ago that would have been impossible. In summary I tell them what I've learned to be true. There is no perfect way to live or perfect job, or perfect mate. You just have to learn to love what you've been dealt. And please don't turn around and ask me if I've dealt with anything well...if you've read my previous posts you'll know that would 180degrees away. But it's what I'm trying to do and what I'm trying to instill in my kids so that hopefully they will enjoy their lives earlier on and longer.

To everyone...Hello and hope your week is going well. Paul, Andrea and the girls...hope everyone is doing well.
Cat...
I think the petition is wonderful. When do you expect to send it? Are you setting a goal for the number of signatures? or a date?
Brilliant idea though...Excellent.

Later.
Peace, love and happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 20, 2003 11:07 AMfrom IP:

Watched My big fat greek wedding last night. That was a GREAT movie. Captivating and funny as hell. It is my wife and her family. The "dad" is my father in law. Except my father in law is Spanish..his mother was from Spain.
I know I'm probably the last person to see this movie, but if you haven't already seen it...take the time...it's a great story. Paul would have been great in that lead Greek vs Australian..
: )
Oh and can't wait till that show on CBS.Code something...Ignore my ignorance..I'm only on my second cup of java.
Have a nice day.
Peace Love and Happiness
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 20, 2003 08:25 PMfrom IP:

Heidi, Tim's advice is quite sound. TELL them to follow their hearts, just be careful not to let the troubles along the way douse the fire within. Paul said "forging our own way in a world that is always threatening to overwhelm us." Key words "threatening TO" not "always will" overwhelm us.

Tim, darlin', we still haven't seen Lord of the Rings (the FIRST one!) in the theatre--we've never time, that and it costs $60 bucks for Bill and I to just leave the house since we live so far from anything it's a 5-6 hr night, so add dinner and a movie to the babysitting fees and WHAM! Sounds better to stay in, have a quickie, and get some snuggle time afterwards. ;-) Not to mention I rarely have to pay him anymore. :-p

Paul's Thread "Gettin' it right..." --I think I'm finding the balance.

Peter, your twin~ how awesome! So glad you've found her and a way to visit as often as you like, or as often as she is able. VERY very cool.

Ok, need coffee. Headache comin' on.

Love to all!
Blessed BE (that means in all actions, see your divinity within--in case you needed a translation) ;-)

***poof!***
Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on February 20, 2003 08:49 PMfrom IP:

Greetings to All!!!

Just a minute and I'm off to work. I'll have to catch up with the latest when I get home tonight.

Katalina, the Medicine Cards are based on teachings from many tribes including Choctaw, Lakota, Aztec, and Cherokee. The cards and book were created by Jamie Sams and David Carson and it's produced by Bear & Co. in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I'm pretty sure you can find the set in any Borders and maybe Barnes and Noble. Perhaps even Amazon carries it. And I understand that have a newly updated set out now that includes more animal cards.

More later. Bye.

Posted by: Diane on February 20, 2003 11:08 PMfrom IP:

Hi Diane- thx for tip on the Medicine cards.
I'll look for 'em. So weird..NM keeps popping into my line of vision repeatedly, lately(when you mentioned the author). I'm being beckoned by Santa Fe, NM just as I was other parts of SW, before I up & moved there on my own! Strange, but before I came to this board & site, NZ &Austr. had been doing that to me too. I worked w/a few people from that part of world, which deepened my interest one from Melbourne, one from Sydney. They're back home now. One buddy offered a place to crash, so maybe one day I'll visit. Also, there's this 10-day meditation course (Vissapassna), that I may want to take down there in future.
(once I save my "dollhairs" up. *smirk*).
(my brother used to tease my sis and I about when we would place bets amongst ourselves over something, and when it came time to pay up, when my brother lost, that rotten little devil would say "ok, here's one dollhair, two dollhairs..." while plucking from our Barbies. aaaurrrrghhh!)
NM=affordable dollhairs; Austr.=uncountable dollhairs for now. *grimace*

Hi Tim: I accidentally whooshed past your reply post, complete w/quadruple shot latte & frappuccino reference. *yikes, my molecules couldn't take that* My bro-in-law does a quadmocha ev. morning. I'm trying to cut back (jees, sounds like I smoke). Doing hot water w/lemon or green teas and trying to only do one single grande latte w/flavor per day before I cut down to only a few times/wk.
Cool about your 'hoofin.' I've never tried. Used to be in an Irish dance troup when young, but we mainly did softshoe country style and a little hardshoe hornpiping. I specialized in the former, but was starting the latter just before I went onto secondary school and other sports, activities. I love watching tap 'though. *smile*
Sounds like you're really toning up! Goodon'ya? Aussies, did I say this right? *twinkle*
Currently working out with weights and doing mix of dance/pilates/yoga exercise and am starting to see a bit of difference in target areas.
Been stepping up wkout intensity as February is drawing to a close and am determined to look/feel better before class/es start. Energy=increasing, but am sticking w/daily vitamins (which I wasn't doing before)& it's helping.

Hi back to Peter! You must be a nightowl, I think. I enjoy those reclining cycles too.
Use 'em if/when I hit the gym. Like to bring reading material to help cut some of the boredom. How're things going? Feeling any better? Take care n have a good day!

Someone sent me an interesting email today w/a perspective on dealing w/the anxiety and fear caused by the possibility of war. I'll just quote some parts that really stood out:

"To create peace, you have to be peaceful.
The only way to stop war is to start within yourself. You must do personal disarmament.
The only way to get and stay peaceful is to concentrate on what brings you peace and resist the downward spiral of negative emotions that blames others for your lack of peace.
Remember, that to which you give your attention, expands. Although there is no denying that we're in a perilous and frightening position right now, that doesn't mean we are powerless to change it. But the only way to do so is by changing your thoughts and emotions from those of anger, hatred, and fear - to those associated with compassion and peace. Know that when you are tuned into your heart, your Inner Wisdom, and God, then your energy lightens up and your vibration literally changes. You become a beacon of light and peace. You become an uplifter and peacemaker.
There's an old saying, " the rising tide lifts all boats. But, it won't raise a stone."
Stop looking at (giving energy to) and thinking about the stones. Join me in raising the tide. And, remember the words of the great M.K. Gandhi, "When in despair, I remember that all though history the way of truth and love has always won; there have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible,but in the end they always fall."

&in Tim's words, "Peace, Love, and Happiness to all."

Hugznkicks,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 21, 2003 01:53 AMfrom IP:

Innusiq: thx for the PM.

Peace
Inn

(i like that...*twinkle* better than P.Out & very punny too)

*roll eyes up, pause, then down*
Warm javas from Latteland,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 21, 2003 03:29 AMfrom IP:

Katalina,
I'm absolutely NOT a night owl. I usually work 6:00am to 6:oopm (self employed), then I go home and take care of my other "responsibilities", so I need ALL the sleep I can get.
Thanks for the well wishes. I'm improving every day, in one way or another.
BTW, there is a considerable time difference between the US and Oz. It's currently 7:40am on Friday. I'm having my first (v.short) coffee break for the morning.

All,
More Aussie lingo:
"fair dinkum", "dinki di", "ridgy didge".
These all generally denote truth, validity or authenticity. Very common expressions.
Also: "the full bottle", as in; "She's the full bottle on history", meaning that she has considerable knowledge of the subject.
Have a good day.

Posted by: Peter on February 21, 2003 03:42 AMfrom IP:

Peter, I rented movies today and noticed an Aussie movie called Soft Fruit. Are you familiar with it? I thought it looked good, but decided to ask you first. I think the actress who stars in it was also in Muriel's Wedding. Any thoughts?

We're going to watch Billy Elliot again as my son has never seen it. I told him I thought he would like the music. Also got Gandhi hoping to pick up on the peace vibe.

Katalina, was that a Ferris Bueller reference in one of your first posts? (Anyone, anyone?) We're big fans of Ferris here. By the way, I lived in Scottsdale, AZ for five years so I understand your love of the Southwest. I love my seasons, so I wasn't that fond of the weather. Yes, it is a dry heat, but when its 112 degrees who the hell cares? I miss the Mexican food.

Hope everyone is well and happy,
Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 21, 2003 05:08 AMfrom IP:

Tim, thanks. Your right. The girls aren't blind. They see what a struggle it has been for their parents. But I know they suffer from that young persons malady - "it won't happen to me". Still Rachel is majoring in graphic design instead of voice (not entirely of her own choice since they didn't have room for her to transfer to voice) and Becky is starting her own craft business realizing that the market for far left political cartoons is small.

By the way, is this thing you want to do writing screen plays?
Also does Paul sell PCs or Apples?

Posted by: Heidi in NH on February 21, 2003 05:27 AMfrom IP:

Michelle,
Sorry, I've never heard of Soft Fruit.

I absolutely LOVE Billy Elliot! The imagery in the scene where he is dancing/beating up against the wall (in frustration/futility/hopelessness) is now indellibly stamped in my brain. It was so simple in presentation, but one of the most powerful moments I have seen in film: art/expression/culture/desire vs industrial/cultural constraints. It reflects on the power of the human spirit's ability to overcome practical adversity. I think that's it's easy for all of us to empathise at least a little bit with Billy. Damn bloody cultural conformity - who needs it! Phew, I'll step down now (from my soapbox), now that's off my chest.

Posted by: Peter on February 21, 2003 05:31 AMfrom IP:

Peter: thx - yep, this time thing and posting times at the bottom is throwing me off. I'll have to look up the exact time diff. to be clear. I knew it was huge 'though. Maybe I was remembering a single isolated early post from way back..not realizing that was rare. Oh well. Glad to hear things are going ok. BTW: I too loved Billy Elliott, both the scene you described and of course, that powerful end with his electrifying stretching Leap onto stage and that pan to his father in the crowd with such an expresion of awe and tearful pride! I bawled like a baby when I saw that and was compelled to replay that one scene over n over just to recapture. That was like a kick in the gut or heart - it was THAT powerful for me. *shivers*

Michelle/Chicago: hey! yep, ya caught me (F.Bueller)"anyone, anyone.." this dates me of course! *blinking once, twice**smile* RE: the dry heat *LOL* everyone says that...yes, I agree, but there's always those misters(sp?) at the restaurants (a novelty for me)and A.C. For me, a native NW person, I needed the sunlight - those UVs in me, stored up and charging for all that I lacked before. I felt like a damned vampire when I first hit AZ. The light, my god the light! Someone turn it off! Acclimatization took 3 mos, but it took! I acquired a taste for the tex/mex foods too YUMMMMM! I've learned to do some killer enchiladas that morph into something new each time I make em. One day I'll detail a story of a fiery dinnerparty I held once where the pitchers of icewater or anywater or anything cold needed to be passed around. *sheepish grinn* I've learned since.
Happy Habaneros to you! *twinkle*

Aussie friends: are there any semi-dangerous tonguenumbing, endorphin-releasing spices down your way we must be aware of? do tell!!!

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 21, 2003 06:40 AMfrom IP:

Peter, the final scene of Billy Elliot brings a tear every time I see it. BECAUSE of the hell he has been through, to see him leap into the air with such grace and strength just moves me so much! The pressure to conform really pisses me off as well. I don't remember who said this but I like it, "Conformity is the refuge of the unimaginative."

I also love the fact that Billy does not seem to judge his friend who is portrayed as somewhat sexually ambiguous. Such a sweet gesture to kiss his cheek when he's leaving.

I'll think of you while we watch it, and hum a little T Rex in your honor.

Love from Chicago,
Michelle

Posted by: Michelle on February 21, 2003 06:47 AMfrom IP:

Hi Guys, sorry, I'm INCREDIBLY busy right now. I will take some time soon to properly read your posts. I've glanced at some, very interesting! I've been so busy, I totally forgot about a presentation I'm supposed to give tomorrow night. Big Upps. A colleague today in passing mentioned "Oh, I'm really looking forward to your presentation tomorrow about Multi-media approaches to teaching the Middle Ages" and I'm thinking to myself, "what presentation???" and a split second later "Holy Crap, I totally forgot ..." Actually, I'm very amused right now. It will be a long night, but at least it's not a formal presentation and if I have to I will wing it. I already finished the 18 page handout, but now I have to think aobut what I want to say and I'm hoping that the technology won't fail me tomorrow. I never used my laptop with a data projector. Keeping my fingers crossed.
But now to why I really stoped by to post: Diane, I just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about Audrey and you and her family tomorrow and am hoping that all will go well with the surgery. Will you let me/us know how it went?

Whitney, how is your grandfather doing? I've thought about him and you a lot as well this week and Ann, the same about your father-in-law and your husband. I hope all is going well.

To everyone else, be well, and stop the caffeine discussion. Please! You are making it very difficult for me to lower my caffeine intake,--going okay on that one this week, but your posts make it soooo tempting to have some other than early in the morning--but Katalina, my favorites are Cafe Lattes, Cafe Mochas and Cappuchinos.

Back to work for me! Love

Posted by: Evelyn on February 21, 2003 08:18 AMfrom IP:

Hi guys...

Comments in no particular order....

Billy Elliott (SP?) Fantastic..Superb.I loved it. A truly great film.
Ferris...one of the funniest damn movies ever. My kids watched it a couple of days ago for the first time. Matthew is a talent beyond his years. Of course his father was brilliant too remember Family? back in the 70's??? Meredith Baxter Birney??? What a hoot..how old am I??
Regarding the question is this script writing what I wanted to do? I was an accountant for years and years. I had always wanted to do hair. I had worked with my aunt as a kid and worked "doing" hair all my life, but I took it up as a "profession" a few years ago. But it's just not paying. I love to write. They call me a man with both sides of a brain. I can DO the accounting shit..but I absolutely hate it. It bores me to tears. Literally. I was a Forensic accountant for awhile..going into really messed up situations and cleaning them up. ARGHHHHH.
Pays extremely well though.
Now I find myself working hair...making shit..but loving what I do. The balance is a little off, b/c it's becoming increasingly harder to make ends meet. So was thinking of taking a second job again. Everything is up in the air right now...and we'll just see where the pieces land. And when they do..I'll pick up my chin and say..here we go again. And just be happy with whatever it is and focus on whatever possible infinitesimal semblance of joy and happiness there is.

My big fat greek wedding is at Blockbuster. It's a delicious movie. Makes you feel good all over.

Hey Paul...here's to you when you get to this post...We're all thinking of you and sending our support your way for positive energy. Hope you and Andrea and the girls are doing well.

Peace love and happiness to all.

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 21, 2003 09:02 AMfrom IP:

Hi PC and Paul and all the Mercurios!
Hope your week went well! For me, it's still
TGIF!!!! I neeeeeed this weekend (break)! It's been a painfully long workweek.

Evelyn: Hi again! Yes, I agree...time to set more limits on caffeine intake...progress pending. BTW:While doing a search the other day under Mercurio I came across your website. Beautiful! Saw your amazing drawings and CV. Very very impressive - both your academic career, travels and artistic talents! Your child is cute too! I really like the way your site is set up. It flows so nicely and the pix are really clear. I'm the webeditor (not designer) for our academic division, and I must say...if I could organize things the way I wanted, I would prefer a pattern similar to your layout. Simple and elegant.
But, we had to go with our parent department's design/layout. Anyway...have a good day and my little Sinbad (he's a boy, well...actually he's an "It" (you know why))..says hi to Freyja!

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 21, 2003 11:11 PMfrom IP:

Evelyn: sorry bout this 2nd post, but forgot to add: my German bestowed nick was Katja from a friend in Munchen when I was visiting in '92.
Only time really out of my country and have to say, Germany was lovely.

Katalina (aka Katja)

Posted by: Katalina on February 21, 2003 11:15 PMfrom IP:

Diane, I'm thinking about Audrey and sending lots of light and love energy to her. I know today will be a tough one for you as well. Best wishes to you as you support your friend and her family. Try to remember to take care of yourself in the process. You're a great friend!

Katalina, we must have posted at the same time yesterday, so I didn't see your response until later. Please fill us in on your dinner party, you habanero hottie you!! It sounds like you had them in tears!

Evelyn, I hope your presentation goes well today. When did you have time to prepare an 18 page hand-out? You are remarkable!

It is 50 degrees here today! Unfortunately it is turning cold again tomorrow. Winter is really starting to annoy me. More reason to enjoy today, right?

Happy Saturday Peter and Paul!

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 22, 2003 12:03 AMfrom IP:

Diane: love/well wishes to Audrey from me too today and to friends, family. we'll hold her in our thoughts.

Michelle/chicago: hiya. "breath of fire" takes on new meaning, yes? *hahahaha* *ok major skyward clockwise eyerolling*
Ok, here's the skinny: family dinner party all of us fairly waspy; one japanese/american, menu: Started w/jalapeno popper appetizers (breaded jalapeno surrounded by mozarella cheese then breaded,deepfried or baked, served w/raspberry preserve dipping sauce. Then a little cucumber/poppyseed, jicima sliced salad w/hot peanut sauce dressing. Then next dish, hot tortilla soup (didn't realize it was laced w/so many different hot spices - hey, it came in a big Costco can which you just add hot water to...). Then for main course: Katalina's killer enchiladas w/lotsa pollo and queso (chicky-n-cheese..ok that was cheesy)complete with layers of El Pato hotsauce, diced chiles, tomatoes, mushrooms and jalapenos, sour cream. The sauces/cheese layers generous within/without and baked. Yummmm. Next side dish: mashed spicy potatoes w/a bit of sour cream, a few diced chiles, and a dash of some chili pepper for color, ok and I added a few tablespoons of El Pato. (getting the pix?*yikes*) And sides of sweet corn and refried beans and corn/flour tortillas to kill the fire (or so I thought).
I guess I went a bit overboard. My bro-in-law liked it as he and I are the only spice lovers in our family. Everyone else was beetred, sweating profusely and begging for water by the pitcherful & laughing (I took it). I only had iced sangria, which didn't do the trick, I guess.
Hey....I've figured it out since then. I just had too many cumulative spicy dishes. Maybe on Cinco del Mayo I'll bring this out again...but not in such succession of heat. *whew, whew..fanning self*

I guess this puts me at the very least, in the Dill category, right Peter, Paul? (now be naaaaaaaaawce *wink*)

If I didn't win us any friends, lovers (I guess that would hold true w/garlic, onions rather), at least I sped up everyone's metabolism and made us sweat out our toxins. Spice can be very therapeutic that way, yes? tee hee.

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on February 22, 2003 01:18 AMfrom IP:

EVELYN!

THANK YOU FOR the CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!

You are a gem! (and European too...only the best!)

Thanks again,
Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on February 22, 2003 04:30 AMfrom IP:

Hi Everyone,

Just signed a UN Petition for Peace. I sent it to Grandma Millie 'cause I sort of know her. I would love to have all of you sign it if you are agianst the War in Iraq. I just didn't want to abuse your open email. HOpe all of you request ot sign. It has signatures from all over the world, including Australia!!!!!

Love to you all,

Margie

Posted by: Margie on February 22, 2003 06:53 AMfrom IP:

Everyone, listen up, here's Grandma with an announcement: If you have not signed Cat's petition (www.frykitty.com/petition) please do, for after the weekend the letter and impressive list of people that signed will be on its way to Baz Luhrmann. The list now numbers 270, and I would love to hit the 300 mark by Sunday.

The list includes people from all over the world, including South Korea, Croatia, Israel, Canada, Australia, South America, and from all parts of the U.S.

Paul, you are loved and respected by people of all ages...a lot of seniors "know" you, and they are included on the list, because they saw "Strictly Ballroom" in our retirement village, and they always ask about you.

I thank Cat, Whitney, and Linda for their assistance, and I also thank all of you that happily signed with your lovely comments.

I am finally going into our new Theatre with my "Follies" cast on Monday, for 6 days for final rehearsals...just in time too, for the show is March 10th, 11th and 12th...as Fran's grandma said, "you're ready!"

Love,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Millie on February 22, 2003 06:58 AMfrom IP:

Hey you guys slow down! I'll never catch up on the posts. Did see something about sausage rolls it the posts? I baked 12 dozen for a house warming party on the 8th. Yes Whitney the first two dozen never hit the plate. I was soooo bad. I need two kicks now (one for each dozen I ate). Now I'm drinking a beer as I type. Kick me again. Hope everyone is well.

Kicks for Whit and Evelyn

Shin kicks Paul. Sow Sow Sow. Could you start a new post so I can catch up? Please...

Suz

Posted by: Susan D on February 22, 2003 07:47 AMfrom IP:

Katalina,
Yes, that final scene froze me to the spot.
I was inspired, I was in awe, I felt the conquest and the pride, and I was also a little bit sad and a tiny bit envious.
We all need heroes don't we? They come in all shapes and forms, so it seems.

Michelle,
Conformity pisses me off too. Too many "good folk" hell bent on judging everyone else.
Around 20 years ago, I purhased a pair of new, bright red cord pants. It was winter. The trouble was, that "normal blokes" only wore denim. So, this particular Friday night, I rocked on up to the disco at the local club, and managed to make an impression (on some).
One guy came up to me, and in a confronting and contemptuous tone asked me: "what are yu wearin' red pants for?"
Spontaneously I relpied: "because it's cold".
He's probably still trying to work it out.
I'm really glad I didn't conform.
BTW, hum away (but,...what's with the T Rex?)

Avagoodweekend from downunder.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on February 22, 2003 09:15 AMfrom IP:

Just wanted to say hey!!
Grandma! im so excited for you! I know "Follies" is just wonderful! Im so glad its ready!! and so jealous that Im in Tennessee and can't come see it! but you have to keep me posted on how it goes on march 10th and on! good luck!

Oh and I have a question to ask, has anyone seen or read the movie/book 'Fear and loathing in Las Vegas' ? I have to do a report on a list of books that are now movies and thats one of them! just wanting if its any good! lol but it has benicio Del toro in it so Im not complaining! lol

like susan said! its gonna take forever to catch up on all of the posts so I'll just be save and read most of em! ;)

Love to all
Kelli

Posted by: Kelli on February 22, 2003 10:20 AMfrom IP:

Peter, Billy Elliot is full of T Rex songs. That's what I was referring to. Were greater lyrics ever written? "Get it on, bang a gong, get it on!" Rock on dudes and dudettes!

I LOVE the red pants story. So glad you stood up to that creep with the attitude. My son has chosen to have long hair even though all the boys around here wear their hair short. He tells me its just who he is, and he likes it better that way. I'm glad he's learning to listen to his heart this early in life. He will appreciate your story.

Great story Katalina! Where did you live in Arizona?

Grandma, I was so happy to see a post from you! We miss you around here when you don't post regularly. Glad to hear you're finally getting into the new theater for rehearsals.

Margie I WILL sign the petition. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

Love to you all,
Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 22, 2003 10:48 AMfrom IP:

Michelle,
Ah yes, I forgot that those were T Rex songs. I guess I paid more attention to the dialogue and visuals. Great soundtrack though.

Posted by: Peter on February 22, 2003 11:23 AMfrom IP:

Thanks for your thoughts for Audrey. I was told that her surgery, scheduled for today, was cancelled. Her doctor told her earlier in the week that the cancer had spread to her liver, spine and lungs. She is supposed to meet with a doctor next week about some experimental drug. Other than that, there really isn't much hope. I think she's starting to make peace with the probable outcome, even as she fights to live. (I just finished watching the movie "Life As A House" which left me sobbing. I had remembered that is was very life affirming. Just didn't remember the sadness involved.)

Innussiq, I hope you're feeling better. Maybe the meaning behind your name could be described as "soul sister"?

Heidi, thanks for participating in the NYC peace march. I haven't been able to attend any of those yet. A group of people have organized to get the L.A. City Council to pass a resolution opposing the war. The first vote failed but they took another vote today. I don't know the outcome, yet. If anyone is interested in finding out about other cities that have adopted this stance, you can read more at:

Katalina, thank you for your quote on peace. You had asked about the medicine cards and certain animals. Very briefly: Hawk medicine is that of messenger; Mountain Lion's is leadership; Lynx's is secrets; Crow's is law; Squirrel's is gathering. The book's authors are quick to point out that animals bring us many teachings but that they've focused on a dominant aspect from each of the creatures they've presented.

Thanks, Peter, for sharing the story about your twin. Thanks also (and Dhiana) for the music suggestions.

Mildred and Evelyn, I may look into teaching. Not sure how I'd be at managing large groups of children. Any thoughts?

Tim, congratulations on your continued health and diet success. Drinking lots of water is a good idea; but I don't think that diet sodas, in moderation, are that bad for you. I had hesitated because of something someone posted here a few months ago about aspartame transforming to formaldihyde. According to the Urban Legends website, that claim is not true. Anyway, I usually don't like the diet stuff at all; but I do like the diet vanilla coke.

I'm up early to help the color guard at school. Continued good wishes to everyone.

Sweet dreams!

Diane

Posted by: Diane on February 22, 2003 01:29 PMfrom IP:

Thank you for thinking of me! I was on a short hiatus, doing other "sundry" things, like getting names for the petition, and making final arrangements for my show to go into the big theatre on Monday morning...Hurrah!!!

Yes, Kelli, I wish you could come to see it. Everyone is invited. We are having a special morning "matinee" on the morning of March 10th, just for people from out of town. All free, and it will be a regular performance, sort of a preview before we open for the paying customers the next two evenings!

Diane, I think you should seriously consider going into teaching. I didn't get serious about being a teacher until my kids were in middle school and junior high. I was 40 years old. I went back to college to get my education courses, and then, did my student teaching with a woman who was as old as I was! (We have remained close friends to this day, and she and her husband are also retired in Florida, and we get together at least twice a month!)

Don't let the thought of handling a lot of children deter you. These days many school districts must, by law, set up smaller classrooms.

I don't know where the time went, but I am already retired from teaching 12 years, and my pension comes in very handy! Also, I was home with my childen on holidays and during the summer...good perks, but the best thing is, I can look back with satisfaction at the years spent in the classroom...they were never boring!!

Good luck in whatever you decide to do!

Love to you all, welcome to the new people!

Love,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Millie on February 22, 2003 07:52 PMfrom IP:

A short post to let everyone know my grandfather passed away yesterday. Naturally, I'll still be busy for a while, but I'll try to catch up on the posts. These threads are the best!

Thanks again to all of you who took a moment to send out positive energy to my grandfather, regardless of the system, if any, you used. There's something out there that's bigger than us and it would be beyond my capabilities to place an accurate limit or conceive a definitive description of it.

According to Einstein "There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everythng is a miracle." I find myself in the second camp.

My love to everyone,
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on February 22, 2003 11:07 PMfrom IP:

Whitney, I'm so sorry to hear of your Grandfather's passing. It was apparent from your posts how very much you loved him. I send you lots of hugs and wish you peace in the days to come.

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on February 22, 2003 11:40 PMfrom IP:

Dear Whitney, I too am truly sorry for you loss. I'm sure you are feeling it deeply. Yet the connection you have with your grandfather isn't going to go away, it is simply taking on a new form. May that and many other things be your comfort. I will be thinking of you and your family and sending you lots of love and hugs and comforting and soothing thoughts and energy to ease the pain of the loss.

More later, I'm still catching up on all the posts.
Love,
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on February 23, 2003 02:15 AMfrom IP:

Whitney, you have my hugs and deepest sympathy. As you and your family adjust to the loss of his physical presence, I hope you'll find comfort in the knowledge that you helped bring comfort and peace to your grandfather and made his passing easier for him. I had a long conversation with a hospice nurse this morning who told me that she has witnessed peaceful and spiritual passings when there have been no big outstanding issues to be resolved. I hope that was the case with your beloved Paw Paw. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

With love,
Diane

Posted by: Diane on February 23, 2003 03:27 AMfrom IP:

Whitney...My deepest sympathy on the loss of your grandfather. Even though we know that our loved ones are no longer suffering, the final good bye breaks our hearts. Take each new day slowly and know that time is the great healer.

Thinking of you, Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on February 23, 2003 03:49 AMfrom IP:

My Dear Whitney,

So sorry to hear about your Grandfather. I know that you put time and effort making sure that he had the best of care and was without pain. Never-the-less I know it hurts.

I will continue to keep you in prayer..

Margie

Posted by: Margie on February 23, 2003 04:29 AMfrom IP:

Whitney, email hug to you. I'm so sorry to here of the loss of your grandfather. You spoke so lovingly of him in your posts. He was blessed to have you as a grandaughter. Double hugs to you in your time of loss.

Suz

Posted by: Susan D on February 23, 2003 05:06 AMfrom IP:

Whitney, our thoughts are with you and your family. I am sorry for your loss. We all must pass on eventually, the fact that we have time to love and laugh with one another is such a wonderful gift that makes the parting even harder but still we wouldnt change it, would we? I'm in the second camp with you.

Hugs and love

Paul

Posted by: Paul on February 23, 2003 06:19 AMfrom IP:

whitney, I'd like to offer my love and comfort also. There really isn't much a person can offer at this time, but I'm sure you know we are all here for you.

your "soul sister"
Innussiq

Posted by: Innussiq on February 23, 2003 06:32 AMfrom IP:

Whitney! im so sorry! I'll be thinking of you and your family!! God bless u!

LOVE TO EVERYONE!!!
Kelli

Posted by: Kelli on February 23, 2003 10:04 AMfrom IP:

Whitney
So very sorry to hear about your granddad. Loss is such a hard thing to bear, but it makes you appreciate the time you had and the time you have ahead. I'm in the second camp with you as well. And don't forget we're all here to listen and comfort when you need it.

Diane
So sorry to hear about Audrey. My thoughts are with her.

I'd be happy to sign the peace post if you want to send it to me ....

Peace Love and Happiness everyone..

Cat don't keep this board down too long..
We'll go into the d.t's

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on February 23, 2003 10:22 AMfrom IP:

Whitney - I am so sorry about your grand dad. My thoughts and prayers go to you and your family for your loss.

Diane - My prayers are with Audrey as well. I am so sorry to hear that her prognosis doesn't look well. I will remember her daily.

I hope that everyone is doing well. My husband finally made it home on Tuesday night. His father is doing much better. He may even be able to go home soon. Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers and positive energy. As for my son, he seems to really be trying harder to get along with everyone again. He has even began a tutoring class to help him get caught up in math. Thanks to everyone for your advice and suggestions.

Hugs to everyone.

Posted by: Ann on February 23, 2003 10:40 AMfrom IP:

I'm so sorry about your grandfather, Whitney.
Please consider yourself hugged.
The only thing worse than having someone you love die is never to love someone enough to miss them when they are gone.
My thoughts are with Audrey,too, and those who love her.
in sympathy,
Sally
PS I find life wonderful, awful, and amazing, but I don't call any of it a miracle.

Posted by: deltalady on February 23, 2003 11:31 AMfrom IP:

Whitney,
My deepest sympathies for the loss of your grandfather.
You will remain forever connected by the love that you shared. The place he's in now is so very wonderful.

I hope that your days soon become sunnier.

Pete

Posted by: Peter on February 23, 2003 01:14 PMfrom IP:


whit-sorry to hear about your grandfather! some really moving and poignant posts before mine - think i will leave it at that!

Einstein had it so right! Live life as if everything is a miracle!

later all...

Posted by: bluedog on February 23, 2003 01:23 PMfrom IP:

Katja, blushing very deeply, but thank you for the compliments & Freyja (the best behaved cat in the universe!!!) sends her greetings to Sinbad. What academic unit are you in at the U of Washington (I assume)? You also wanted to know what I was reading these days, mostly my dissertation, as many hours of reading that I can stand a day while editing and reading academic web sites of potential future employers, trying to figure out what their educational philosophy is and whether I think I want to work there or not. Being on the academic job market sucks!!!! What I want to get to is Marianne Williamson’s A Return to Love and for pure entertainment, Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett’s Good Omens, a novel that a friend gave me, which she thinks would be the perfect post-dissertation-writing reading. If only I wasn’t so tired at the end of the day …and just to set the record straight, the cute kid is unfortunately not mine. He’s the son of my friends, I do hang out a lot with him, occasionally kick his parents out of their house, "forcing" them to go on a date with each other, while I have a "date" with the little love of my life—it works out for all of us. J
Dhiana, you are most welcome, I just couldn’t help myself when I saw that chocolate in the store after you made that comment. J How’s your son doing? I hope his injuries weren’t too severe when he split his head open.
Michele, don’t be too impressed, when you have to, you can work amazingly fast and since I had basically no time to prep, I just followed my instincts and completely had to wing it during the presentation, but the spontaneity was very refreshing and effective too. I think it was much better, because otherwise I would have overthought it. The 18 page handout I threw together out of some teaching materials I had used when I taught the course 2 years ago and a lot of it was computer screen shots from different sections of the multi-media course exercises that I had created and they take up quite a bit of space on a page. This was one of the backups, should the technology fail me. It worked fine, but took a lot of de-bugging all afternoon long.
Peter, I’m absolutely amazed by how you met your twin sisters. She’s one amazing sister!!! And I’m also amazed by how positive you are or un-bitter about how your life started-hats off to you!!! Thanks for letting me see that side of you, it is truly inspiring.
Diane, I will answer your question about teaching in the newest thread, because I think it fits in there with the whole playing the games kind of issues that Paul raised there.

Posted by: Evelyn on February 25, 2003 08:34 AMfrom IP: 128.101.253.177

Whitney: I’m so deeply sorry for the loss of your grandfather. Wishing you peace, love, comfort and good friends at this time.

Michelle/Chicago: Hi there! I lived 2 hrs south of Tempe/Phoenix and about 4 hrs south of Flagstaff. The Catalina Mtns. were pretty much my backyard. I could literally walk 2 blocks from my apt., and be at the trailhead to a place called Finger Rock. I used to go sit atop this city overlook on some large rocks in the desert (also at the end of this block), during lightning storms (a novelty for a NW person). I didn’t mind the rain as it was always sweet, fragrant and warm. The lightning shows were always spectacular! Awesome, powerful, amazing...

Diane: Thank you for sharing about some of the meanings behind a few of the animals I was curious about. I’ll have to pay more attention to what’s in front of me, I think.

Evelyn: Hello back! Sinbad has a new love interest online, I think! Tee hee! (Hi Freyja!) I work in the Dept. of Medicine in the research sections dealing with diabetes, kidney disease, transplantation and hypertension. I’m in academic admin. and oversee/coordinate many aspects of our fellowship program's clinical and research training for doctors/med. students seeking advanced specialty training and scientific careers either as academicians and/or researchers. I deal in fiscal/payroll/grant (seeking funding) submission & monitoring budgets, and many other program operational sides of our division. I can be a bit creative too, so I usually find ways to channel this or explore such as in computer illustration/graphics, slides presentations, website developing/maintenance and so on…since there are only 3 admin staff for such a large division, we get to do it all! I feel fortunate to have such a broad range of opportunities and experience. Although--I agree with Paul’s most recent post, how things often get difficult w/politics and gameplaying…I am learning that this comes with the territory, so to speak, in academics and medicine since we are dealing with national/internationally acclaimed reputations and egos…so it’s definitely a tightrope walk & a valuable learning experience. Overall, I have to say it’s very stimulating, high energy, creative, interesting and a good experience and environment as a whole. It has its days, however!!
Wow, you seem to be a very interesting individual! Medieval history! What a fascinating area. If I personally were to go into a library with those sorts of topics in mind, I might gravitate towards something along the lines of illuminated writings, educational experiences of the clerical class, preservation & study of ancient manuscripts – specifically Gnostic texts or anything along the lines of ancient languages (translations) such as Babylonian, Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic, Latin and any art, manuscripts available pertaining to associated societies - specifically in areas of religion, science, art.
Anyway..hope you are having a good start to your week. Bye-bye for now! J

Hope everyone is doing well. I’m going to the newest posts now. Less time scrolling *grinn*
Katalina


Posted by: Katalina on February 26, 2003 10:52 AMfrom IP: 12.82.134.205

rubbish!psycho-babble at it's worst. I pray that all of you have an experience, which forces you to reduce your "walls" to a level consistent with existense. To be aware that what you do; and who you choose, are the important factors.....choose GOD, and good friends...both will lift you to your highest...neither will leave you; at your lowest...if you are faithful.

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