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Wednesday, 02 April
Gratitude?

Is it possible to be grateful for an opportunity and yet at the same time resent the experience?

What does it mean to be grateful? To fully express ones gratitude - does that make one subservient - less than one can be, should be, is? Or does finding the truth of being grateful make us more of who we are, what we are becoming. Does the experience and the expression of what it is make us better people.

And then what of resentment. Is there anything positive in that? Is there any point in it?

My Mum is sitting with me and has said to me - (my para phrasing) " life is a game and in any game you can always find a way to win it - persevere, persistence and patience - with these three things you can win - you can find a way to win and perhaps you can indeed find yourself. Importantly it is not so much about winning but getting past that line that life seems to set out in front of us. Facing the hurdles and getting on with it."



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Paul, Your Mum is wise. You are a most fortunate son.

I like to think that I am succeeding just by trying.
If I give up, then I cannot succeed, even if I somehow "win".
If I try my best, then that's all I can ask of myself, and so I am a winner, regardless of whether or not I have reached the goal I may have set.

All goals are arbitrary. They are only there to pull us forward, to lift us up.

Living is winning. Winning is not necessarily living.

I can see that I have benefited from my life experiences, despite not feeling altogether happy with every one of them. Resentful?...I don't know,..sometimes, maybe,...just a tiny bit. I try not to be. No, there is no point in it.
I only know one thing in this regard: I would not be who I am without ALL of my experiences.

I agree, lets face those hurdles and get on with it. Thanks.

Say G'day to your Mum, and tell her what a good son she has.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on April 2, 2003 05:44 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8

Paul...How timely this thread is! I am feeling exactly like "grateful for an opportunity and yet at the same time resent the experience" because I didn't win. I was one of two left being considered to re-design the governor's residence. I should be honored to have made it this far but I found out yesterday, because the choice was so close, they flipped a coin to decide!! Ah, screwed by serendipity!

I will survive and move forward but for now, I wallow in self-pity. Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 2, 2003 07:09 PMfrom IP: 216.93.120.157

Paul
Your mum is quite wise. You're so very lucky to have her with you and at the very least a phone call away. Give her a huge hug and tell her thank you for all she's done for you. Then one from me because she's done such an incredible job raising a great person who has turned out to be a mentor, friend and more to those of us here.

Yes gratitude is necessary to fully find yourself in my opinion. Goals are arbitrary, lifes experiences are basically uncontrollable, you can try and steer the ship, but things happen as they will to say the least but successes are usually the result of some sincere input on ones part. I think then is when you should step back and be grateful. You as a person were able to pull all the right strings and make something happen for yourself. This often involved other people and time. Don't take it for granted. Patience is KEY of the 3 you mum mentioned. Therein is where I think resentment can rear its head. We often want things faster than they are going to come or happen and then we become resentful that maybe others attained things faster. Your mum was right it's just getting past that "line" that life hangs in front of us. I'm all tangled up in a monkey bar of rope right now, but soon I hope I'll just see that goal line again. You are there. You've attained another goal. You can be on stage this fall. You can get back into the mainstream and then who knows what will lie ahead. Hopefully much more.

You're so very very fortunate Paul. You have an incredible source of love and support. A mum that must adore you. A wife that loves you and supports you and children that love and respect you. They all support where you want to go. That is SO MUCH. I don't have that. You're very lucky. And they want you to succeed in your venture (as all of us here do) whatever it takes. You're a blessed man (don't take any religious bullshit in that) just you're in a special place.

Ok so that's my soapbox today.

In answer to your question. Yes you can resent the experience but that only slows you down. My psychologist tells me in coping with life you must let the past GO. Being resentful is holding onto something negative. Let it go. It's taking up space in your life. God knows that's easier said than done (especially for me). But you have to try.

Give my regards to your family.

Hello to everyone on PC.

Peace and love everyone

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 2, 2003 10:11 PMfrom IP: 216.78.44.209

This is in response to two things fromthe last thread

The tattoo didn't hurt..feels kind of funny. The hard part was the position I had to keep my leg in while he did the work. The Mrs hasn't seen it. Hiding it right now. It'll just show up one day and she'll have her FIT. And it will be a huge one, you'll probably hear her screaming and crying and bellyaching where you are. We're not "communicating" really well again.

Michelle NS..you're a native Southern Californian and now you're in NS? God I could never do that. When do you relocate? When you were a little person of maybe 5? At this point I could never go north. Atlanta is too cold for me. Just the changes. I would prefer Southern Cal. I can't stand Florida. Actually it would be great if that continuation of Mexico below California was US territory. WARMER I'd love that.

Later
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 2, 2003 10:26 PMfrom IP: 216.78.44.209

wow Paul...you have an amazing Mom. Can i borrow her - for my days where my sails are deflated? LOL

seriously she's great!

i liked the part about stepping past the line...i think that's the hardest part...making yourself engage in the game and moving forward, aiming to win...for me it all starts or ends....in the mind. It's possible to talk myself out of something great even before I begin it...as a bit of a perfectionist it's the defeatist side - not wanting to fail.
but i like the self coaching that perseveres/wins out, daring one to engage, to step up as u put it...and cross those hurdles. Daring ourselves to risk, to leap, to overcome, to reach for that highest rung..

I think gratitude, for the moment, the experience and the opportunity comes with an open heart and and open mind which values learning in all forms, and perhaps the entire process. i think, for me, it's a byproduct of acceptance and letting go of personal will and allowing things to unfold (while participating), and valuing the creative energies at play...

i dunno...just some thoughts.

i like gratitude. i think it can be viewed as subserviant by those who do not understand its power, strength and beauty. i think those who use it, express it, feel it, practice it are rewarded in plenty.

cheers, hugz, kix,
katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 3, 2003 04:36 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Ok, Peter darling...can I just say that I sat and re-read your "Living is winning. Winning is not necessarily living." five times? That's IT, man! People race to "the top" and "win". But then where are they? (insert person you know here)

Gratitude: I used to confuse "gratitude" with "worship" from my old Presbo days growing up. I think gratitude is heartfelt, it pours out of us when we are full, or when something touches us deeply. It is triggered by Love and Happiness. Don't you agree? If I have fallen overboard and someone rescues me and hands me a towel I am grateful. BUT (she says, saucilly) there indeed are levels of gratitude as well. Am I AS grateful when I step out of the shower and someone hands me a towel? Some say I SHOULD BE, because that means I have people around me who love me and are in my daily life to help care for me (or who just realized they had grabbed YOUR towel for THEIR shower a half hour earlier! ;-)

Gratitude for the experience? Oof, that's a hard one.

Not as complex as Paul's and his Mum's post, but still...food for thought.

Love to All,
Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on April 3, 2003 05:23 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Here's another "p" word, perspective. Whether you feel gratitude or resentment in any given situation probably depends largely on how you feel about yourself at any given time. If your perspective is that you are a worthy, deserving person, then gratitude will bubble forth. If, however, your pride has taken a hit, and you are feeling a bit dejected, resentment will rear it's ugly head as you question the motives of others as well as your own judgement.
The great thing about this journey we are on is that we get to choose how we feel. I can't imagine resentment or subservience manifesting themselves in a good way. Gratitude however, can be a great asset. Gratitude can turn even the most shitty situation into a learning moment. Something that propels you a little further along your path. By choosing it, you choose to live fully.
Yep, there is no winning in this game, just enjoying the ride. To focus on winning is to forget to live each precious, wonderful moment.
The opening line of the Dhammapada states, "All we are is the result of what we have thought". Maybe changing how we think about ourselves is what makes us better people?
By the way, I missed your birthday Paul, so here's a hug for you. And since I've been reading about Buddhism, instead of a Happy Birthday I will wish you a Happy Continuation Day!

Love to all,
Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: on April 3, 2003 08:38 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Peter, giving your best is winning, is succeeding, is living. Giving your best is expressing who you are - what more can we do but give our best.

Linda - perhaps saved by serendipity.

Tim, I'm all for cutting loose the baggage. In fact I have been working on doing just that and low and behold some good opportunities have began to open up.

Katalina, man would have achieved nothing if not for daring to dream and then daring to turn those dreams into reality. I love the thought that gratutude is an openness to life and living that is unconditional and all embracing.

Dhiana, yep I know people who have won all their lives but have no life to speak of! Sad hey!?

Michelle, a true thought - "All we are is the result of what we have thought". And a frightening thought too! If this is the case then having a positive loving and humane way of thinking is well worth considering.

Posted by: Paul on April 3, 2003 11:19 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Interesting thread and equally interesting posts from the equally interesting people in Paul's Corner. Good evening from WV.

I've felt gratitude and resentment at the same time: my teaching job for example.

I'm grateful for the money and the opportunity for job experience, but I resent having to do something I don't absolutely love (don't we all?). On the up side it's giving me a chance to work through some of my issues concerning fine art and its service in today's society. I know I've yet to cross the career/life line your mum was talking about though. There's no doubt that I'm having a mid-life crisis and that's particularly uncomfortable because I've indulged in a prolonged adolesence.

In some ways I wish I was more motivated by money. Maybe it would make me work harder. I keep thinking that once I "really" find my way, things will flow along more smoothly. I'll have a home, etc. Doing what I love, I'll work my ass off.

So right now I'm trying to continue doing the things it takes to get there. I'm on the verge of giving up, but I could take the same work and make it the next step in my journey with just a little more effort. I'm knocking on doors for information. What will I learn?

On the resentment issue I'm reminded of one of Evelyn's quotes about anger hurting the angry person. I've also read an Asian proverb that said people can experience happiness in the knowledge that they have upset you. People do control others with anger. Our egos make us easy targets of provocation.

On the gratitude issue, I've noticed among some people a reluctance to express gratitude for anything. It's as if the acknowledement of thankfullness will some how indebt them to you.

Some also perceive gratitude as weakness. I used to wonder how I should deal with this sort of person: hide gratitude? I decided to just be myself and express thankfullness. I can't change my thinking for each person though there be advantage in it.

Love to Everyone (especially Grandma Mil and hard working Evelyn)!
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 3, 2003 12:20 PMfrom IP: 129.71.187.50

It's after midnight and I want to respond to your observations, Paul, and to the other comments here tomorrow (there's so much to say on this and I hope I'll remember all the ramblings in my head at this moment). In the interim, I wanted to post the quotation that was given to me (on a wallet card) many years ago by a dear friend:

"Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and Determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan “Press On”, has solved and will always solve the problems of the human race.
ATTRIBUTION: Calvin Coolidge (1872–1933), U.S. president.

Calvin Coolidge is not one of our highly regarded presidents, by the way. Still, I think this is a wise observation. What say you???

Posted by: Dianeq on April 3, 2003 03:18 PMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102

I think ole man Coolidge had a point.
I'm educated, have a high IQ, and talent. I know these things, but pressing on is the key. Sometimes though you find yourself travelling at 85 mph (sorry not familiar with metrics) against winds coming at you of 160 mph. It almost puts you in reverse. That's when you go What the hell??

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 3, 2003 07:03 PMfrom IP: 216.78.37.243

Coolidge hit the nail on the head Diane. Thanks for sharing the quote.

Goodmorning Tim. Let's not give up.

Goodmorning Millie, Evelyn and Everyone at the corner. Goodnight Paul and Peter.

Dog out,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 3, 2003 07:47 PMfrom IP: 129.71.188.242

Good morning everyone. Sorry, I'm breaking the topic, a very interesting one by the way, no time to comment on it just yet. But "Follies 2003-Part I" is finally up on the web. The entry page for all "Follies 2003-Love is in the Air" web-activity is at http://www.tc.umn.edu/~meye0289/Follies2003.html

We are sort of planning to get images from the show up eventually, but we have to digitze the video first and then extract still images from it and the video came out Monday or is still coming out, so you have to be patient some more with that.

Have fun & love to all.
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on April 3, 2003 10:27 PMfrom IP: 134.84.217.88

BRAVO! to evie, whit and granny mil....the pics are great! granny mil in her cowgirl hat...looks like a wrangling kind of gal to me!!!!

and evie - i see you were there in spirit...kOOl!

later all....

Posted by: bluedog on April 4, 2003 02:00 AMfrom IP: 168.56.106.198

Great pics! Thanks for sharing..can't wait for the next set.

Posted by: innussiq on April 4, 2003 02:26 AMfrom IP: 12.172.241.156

I love it Evelyn!!!! If you get a chance, and it isn't too time consuming, can you insert that shot of Mil's computer room? I think people would enjoy being able to imagine sweet Millie at her keyboard on Paul's Corner.

Thanks for all the work you've put into this Evelyn. I know Millie loves it! And what a nice sketch of her! You really have artistic talent. You should continue to draw. By the way, did you notice what's sitting on the little table in Mil's breakfast nook?

Thanks bluedog. It was definitely a fun thing to team up on. You can see they had me celebrating most of the time. The show was fast paced and fun and then meeting her long time friends on such a wonderful occassion; I was honored to be there.

Innusig, I too can't wait to see what images Mil will capture from her tape and how Evelyn will put them together. Naturally, I wasn't allowed to take pictures during the performances. I'm sure they'll give you more of an idea of what it was like during the show.

Dog out!
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 4, 2003 03:28 AMfrom IP: 129.71.186.204

That makes three of us who want to see the pix of the actual show ... :-) Uhmm, Whit, you of all people, a Photoshop user, should know how the charcoal drawing of grandma came into existence. I wish I could draw that well, but I'm not there yet. Will keep practicing though. Check out the artistic or graphic filters that you can apply to images, of course you mess with them until you get the look you want, so there is some sort of artistic creative part that I brought to that image, but ... need I say more? And yep, I'd be happy to add the computer room image, email it to me. In an ambitious moment, I might just have to edit grandma into the picture sitting at the desk and put the corner on her screen ... But let it be stated, that you and grandma did a wonderful job too. Without your work this site wouldn't be there. Thank you to the two of you!

Glad you all liked it. It was tremendous fun for me and also a very nice stress relief. I feel flatter than just flat out like a lizzard drinking (did I get this right this time???)

Diane, a belated congratulations on your 19 years of marriage. That is so cool. May 19 more wonderful years follow than the ones you already shared!

Love to all,
Eve

Posted by: Evelyn on April 4, 2003 09:30 AMfrom IP: 128.101.249.216

Oh mi gosh you guys!!! Those pix are super! thx thx thx!! whoohoooooo! what a beautiful transition between slides too. nicely done!! wow!
Everyone looks great. Can't wait to see the rest too..but this whet the appetite. *grinn*
Dang, u ladies r good!

Diane: i loved that Coolidge quote and happen to very much agree. Persistence and Determination can get the job done. Press On!! I think that's always been a soul motto....and it's a good one, at least for me. And as Paul pointed out and as other little universal hints keep dropping at my feet or slapping my face lately...daring to step out of the dreaming and daring to make the dream/s real -- it's time!!! that seems to be my universal theme of late...in huuuuuuge ways. Time to end _my_ prolonged adolescence and step up, step into...the next level, make it Real. No more overanalyzing...that's just a clever way to procrastinate (for me)....and maybe miss windows of opportunity. So interesting that these things keep popping into my line of vision, hearing, etc...same theme, same message....WAKEUP Woman!!!
I do not believe in coincidences...LOL

Hope all in the PC are doing well and having a great week thus far.

Hi to Inn, Tim, Evie, bluedog, Whit, G. Mil and G. Elliott, Linda, deltalady, and all others here!

Hugz, kix
Katalina


Posted by: Katalina on April 4, 2003 09:49 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101

Whoo Hoo what an event Aunt Mil. You missed your calling. Teacher????!!! You're a director, producer. Incredible pictures and you all look either quite lovely or for Uncle Ellie dashing. Aunt Mil just one more time...you are simply lovely. You have a smile that sets a stage on fire. I know you are enduring a lot of emotional stress right now and even then, but you transcend all of that and illuminate even over cyber space. I am so glad to have had the pleasure of meeting you here.

I hope everyone is doing well and enduring lifes little ups and downs.

My 10 year old is driving me crazy begging for a Rotweiller (sp) dog. I said NO. Everytime I watch the news, some pit bull or rotweiller has killed some small kid or kids. We only have 8 more classes till our concert. The first one with the kids to "Me and my shadow" is a hoot. It'll be a blast. Then us "oldsters" are doing our number to "Boogie Shoes." Another hoot. We've actually done quite well, so says our teacher.

Gotta go.

Peace and love to everyone

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 4, 2003 10:12 AMfrom IP: 216.78.40.47

Tim: wish i could be a little fly on the wall to listen and watch that concert!! Sounds like a hoot alright and like lots of fun! I think i remember a little song n dance number w/some friends in jr. high to "Glowworm"....oh mi gosh.....blush blush....
i still remember that durn song...oh dear.....
I'll never live it down...our moms thought we were all very cute, very precious....LOL
I remember false eyelashes, pink round styrofoam noses, pink cheeks, white gloves, black tights and a pink tunic and these silly antennae on our heads...oh god. (banish the memory!!!)

I like the idea of Boogie Shoes much better!!!!

*wink n a grinn for our Tim*
Katalina


Posted by: Katalina on April 4, 2003 12:09 PMfrom IP: 64.12.96.171

Hey Everyone,

Was just looking at the recipie section. That vegie-egg soup sounds really good. Gonna have to try in soon. Oh, Whitney, found out what a "spatchcock" is. Just had to look it up. It's a "dressed and split chicken for broiling or roasting on a spit". Just thought that you'd like to know.

Hope everyone is doing well. Just about to settle down to a good movie...

Love to all...

Margie

Posted by: Margie on April 4, 2003 12:17 PMfrom IP: 66.27.220.210

BTW: i second that bluedog "kOOl" with a "kewl"
re: G. Mil's cowboy hat. Awesome!
Yeeeehawwww!

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 4, 2003 12:46 PMfrom IP: 64.12.96.171

Grandma's Here: Words are difficult to express the GRATITUDE and love that Ellie and I feel for all of you, on you wonderful comments about the website in honor of "Follies 2003."

Evelyn and Whitney, with such devotion and utter genius, worked together, over the Internet, in order to share the materials, decide on the style, the color, and the captions. Of course, having Whitney backstage at Follies and in our home with her camera was indispensible! Evelyn opened her beautiful website to allow Follies in, and with her ingenuity, appeared in some of the pictures! There you have a collaboration that brought such pleasure to Ellie and me.

We are so happy to be able to share this project with all of you on Paul's Corner. If you go to the pictures inside our home, you will see a collection of pictures on the wall...look closely at the bottom, and there is a picture of Tara Morice, and a poster of Strictly Ballroom, and there you are too, Paul! A shrine? You bet!!!!!

By the way, the picture of old Mil in that cowboy hat is a favorite of mine. That was the outfit I wore for my Patsy Cline lipsync act in Follies. Ellie "played" a toy guitar as my "accompaniment".
I did part of "Heartaches" and "Crazy."

My newest favorite lip sync is from the movie "Chicago." It's Queen Latifa's "When You're
Good To Momma." Hot stuff!

Again, thank you, Whit and Evelyn, for that tremendous job, and for all the wonderful remarks from the Corner...like George M. Cohan once said,
"My mother thanks you, my father thanks you, and I
thank you..."

Love,

Grandma


Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 4, 2003 05:49 PMfrom IP: 209.86.180.70

'Mornin Everyone,
Well it's ice storm central here today, and I should have NEVER left my house! But I'm glad I did, because I got to see the Follies slide show! Oh, it's wonderful! What an organizer that Millie, eh? And Whit and Evelyn, top-notch, all the way around. Ah...to be so talented (in that arena).

Speaking of talent...I finally ("officially") found out what I've been totin' these hips around for all these years...Belly dancing! I've been goofing off with it on my own for a year now, but finally took my first class last night. I've been practicing "sinking my navel" all the way in on the icy roads while listening to the audio cassette of "Prisoner of Azkaban". Everytime a certain character speaks I sink, then when someone else does, I relax. Sink, relax. Sink, relax. And then I realize I've sped the van up again and must slow down for the conditions.

Ah, life...gratitude for living, that's the ticket today.

Love and hugs,
Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on April 4, 2003 08:27 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Lady Dhi? what exactly does "sinking the navel" mean? LOL sounds interesting...
sounds like it involves major abs...lol
I could learn to like that!!!! (as i like to work abs!) Know what i think is cool in bellydancing? that little hip circle..i think that's totally cool!!! very intriguing...i think the menzzzzz like it too! LOL

Tell us more!!!

Hugz n "sinks?" (finger cymbals in background...)
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 5, 2003 12:48 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

i guess i should have been more specific on "hip circle" as i don't know what the movement is truly called..
but i picture the woman turned slightly to the side so that one hip is prominent and facing out and then subtlely moving it in little circular motion...a beckoning...a very subtle movement...i picture Delilah...in her 7 veils or...something similar....i have seen it done..it's very lovely..very subtle and interesting...

good for the shy ones (like me!!) to use ...LOL

maybe u know which one i mean?
anyway...i have seen similar styles in Mideastern dance and others...it's very pretty.

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 5, 2003 12:55 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

dedicado a Katalina

"Inspiracion"

Imponente como una diosa,
tu imagen me dio un suspiro.
Con tu sonrisa tentadora
me encuentro a el delirio.

Posted by: enzzzzo on April 5, 2003 03:46 AMfrom IP: 192.246.17.190

Dear Goddess Dhiana,
I believe that gratitude is something that we give freely, without reservation or feelings of indebtidness. NO STRINGS.
We give with happiness, or joy or love, or all of these things and more.

I'm bloody grateful that I have this life. I learn something every day (well, most days), and I'm truly grateful for that.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Pete

Posted by: Peter on April 5, 2003 04:45 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8

estoy muy agadecdio para el poema hermoso, Enzzzo...
yo no puedo creer que usted hizo que
para mi.

muchas gracias,

Katalina

Posted by: on April 5, 2003 05:30 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

oops..should read

agradecido...

lol
K

Posted by: katalina on April 5, 2003 05:30 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Paul...Thanks for the "kick"! I pride myself on not taking myself (or anyone else, for that matter) too seriously. But I do have the momentary lapse.

Diane...Again with the great stuff! I have always admired Coolidge and his wife, Grace, for her perseverance on his behalf.

Evelyn...Many thanks for all your efforts on the slide show of "Follies". It makes us all feel like we were there in body because we were in spirit.

Whitney...Ditto.

Millie...What an inspiration you are to everyone! So much energy and so much more to give. Thanks.

Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 5, 2003 10:51 AMfrom IP: 216.93.25.20

KATALINA.. hello, i recently read your post-from some time ago- regarding your migraine pain. my apologies for not responding sooner- i hadn't been back to this site for a while. if in the future you're suffering from migraine pain feel free to email me- i would be happy to give you some advice that might help. i have quite a few patients who suffer from migrains- for a variety of reasons. hope your feeling better.

PAUL...congratulations on your monty offer! if you decide to take it,make sure you stretch-alot. good luck to you.

greg in nyc

Posted by: greg on April 5, 2003 09:45 PMfrom IP: 66.108.111.158

Hi Greg! Thx! I actually don't get migraines that frequently. When i do they're usually pain free, but trippy. As in it affects my vision and balance and I get nauseous. It usually doesn't last beyond a few hours tho, so I'm fortunate.

My little sis gets painful (drive ya crazy) ones that can last up to five days. I can actually see one coming on in her (around the eyes, puffy, eyes at half mast, etc.) before she can. She has to take Maxolt? or that emergency shot if it's that bad.

So far so good for me...no meds, no drugs..just rest and positive thinking it away thus far...

But, yes, I'd be interested in learning maybe how to deal with it in progress or maybe at a prevention level. I'll let ya know if/when there's a next time.


Hi Inn!!! Long time no talkie!
Hi to all in the PC, Hi to Paul and family!

Have a great weekend everybody!
Hugz, kix

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 6, 2003 06:27 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101

hey Kat. I'm still here. Hope everyone is well. I'd like to give belly dancing a try but I think I have a bit too much belly! Had a great visit with two of my sisters yesterday. I'm home alone right now so if you'll excuse me I think I'm going to watch tv without having to argue over it.
Whee!
Peace.

Posted by: Innussiq on April 6, 2003 07:09 AMfrom IP: 12.172.242.126

Hello everyone at P.C.
Everyone hopefully is having a nice weekend. We have the jump up in time tonight. So I guess it's already 9:45pm e.s.t. considering it changes during the middle of the night...what's up with this change anyway...I've always thought this was such a ridiculous thing to do. Maybe it made sense years ago..but now???
So, Paul, any updates on the Monty project? If nothing specific..how long does the deliberation usually take? Can't wait to hear.
Peace and love to everyone...
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 6, 2003 08:53 AMfrom IP: 216.78.39.204

Hello again. I would like to voice my gratitude for the support of me in following my heart. Thank you, it really means so much to me.

I think the subjects gratitude and resentment are interesting when viewed from a distance--when in the experience they seem only all incompassing.

Resentment and gradtitude seem to be some of the 'cushier' emotions. What I mean by that is often we allow ourselves to ignor them. Like me I was not going to write tonight to say thank you all, but my heart went up and grabbed my throat and said, "Wait a minute here you want to say this little thank you, and if you don't you'll resent it." So resentment I think, is the by product of not following ones heart. I find myself resenting not being thinner or smarter, but when I take action and do the scary act (following my heart)I am often very grateful of the results. Like just yesterday I finally called some friends I had wanted to talk to for the longest time, but have told myself if they wanted to hear from me they would have called (I resented them not calling me.) Anyway in calling we had a wonderful talk and have met up for fun since then (so I am greatful.)
Personally when people tell me I should be greatful I want to say a few not very nice words to them. Because, of course, I should be greatful, but when I work from 'shoulds' then I become resentful, because it's not what I really feel. I have a feeling that when one is resentful it is best not to resent it, but let it be and not feed it with false gratitude. The only way I have found resently to not resent myself for not being the way I think I should be, is I think of myself as a little 3 year old girl, and ask myself--would I want her to be any different, and can I really hate her? And of course, the answer is always "no." But that does not always work and sometimes it does wonders. It's actually really a fun thing to do because I find it so much easier to love a young me then the older me(17 seems pretty old right now.) I hope I have not written an unreadable muttle.

A very greatful Melinda.
USA Arizona

Posted by: Melinda on April 6, 2003 05:33 PMfrom IP: 65.56.255.76

Good morning Millie, Elliot, Evelyn, Tim, Inn, Bluedog, Katalina, Greg, Linda, Peter, Paul, Dhiana, enzzzzo, Margie (thanks for finding out what a spatchcock was), Michelle/Chicago. Michelle in the other place, Melinda and all the people MIA. Where's our little Kelly girl?

I'm sorry I haven't participated as much lately, but I do my best to keep up on the posts and write when I can. The comments on the topic are very insightful.

Thank you Mil, for letting me take photos of your lovely home and allowing Evelyn to post them. I would love to see pages of photos of everyone; just the images you want to show us. I can just imagine how a bluedog or an innussiq lives. I may post some pictures of the oncoming WV Spring; it's one of our most beautiful times of year.

Oh and Tim, I'm not trying to give your 10 year old ammo, but if you find a show quality Rottweiler breeder and buy one of their pet puppies, you'll pay about $600, but you'll get a dog with a good personality. They make a great companion dog. Go online as well as looking in the classified section of Dog Fancy or Dog World magazine. Just like the German Shepherd and the Poodle, that breed has been a favorite of puppy mills and other nonprofessionals who don't care about temperament and even try to breed an ill tempered dog. I believe the Rottweiler is one of the breeds mixed to produce a pit bull (that recipe varies). What about a Mastiff (bigger dog). They're nick named the Nanny dog because they're so good with kids that they're said to "babysit" in their native England. Again, find a professional breeder that raises for show and then buy one of their pet quality pups; they're cheaper and just as wonderful.

Oh and please do get a tape of your show. If you get me a copy, I can do still captures from the performance for you. It sounds wonderful!

I too find day light savings time silly.

Katalina, I'll bet your were a cutie in your little outfit. That circular step sounds like one I learned from a stripping how-to video (hey, a girl never knows what she might have to do for a living). But seriously, seems like it had a name that involved the petal like shape you trace with your foot before you turn to the next side. Clover pattern or petal or some such name. That's supposed to be a great way to get in shape (and men love it). Good choice Dhiana!

Melinda, I understand your reluctance to call people who haven't bothered to contact you. This friendship thing should be prettty easy, and if it gets too hard and I seem to be doing all the work, I give up. However, it never hurts to give an old pal a second chance. And it resulted in a fun outting; how cool!!!!

Many of the things your "resent" are "regrets" for me. When I regret something like my obessity for example, I do something about it. Repeatedly if needed. Otherwise, I experience guilt for not doing my best. I don't like "shoulds" either so I change them all to "coulds" when I can.

17 is so young though I know it seems old to you. I remember it being a pretty laid back time for me because I just didn't know I was supposed to be worrying about what I'd do for a living, etc. This is the time to start exploring your options. Regardless of what you do, try to go to college if you can. It's not going to get any cheaper and these days a Bachelors degree is the equivalent of a high school diploma. Besides, you'll have fun, expand your knowledge base and make connections. You don't have to know what you want to major in right away. Just start with the basic requirements and find a good advisor to help you plot your course as you go along.

Well, I apologize for making this so long. I love you all. Have a great day!
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on April 6, 2003 11:45 PMfrom IP: 129.71.188.148

Oh, this daylight savings time. I was raised on the farm and thought this was dumbest thing I ever heard. Your up at daybreak and eat when breakfast has worn off and quit working when it is too dark to tell the weeds from the cotton.
You know Arizona doesn't do Daylight Savings Time. They were afraid that the extra hour of sunlight would burn up their cotton so it didn't pass. I guess it was for all the city folk, so they could still have time to play golf, tennis, baseball, or whatever. I have a little league complex at the end of my street. Some days I come home and these "adults" have parked down both sides of the street and so close to my driveway it takes two tries just to get my car to the garage. ( I drive a 1996 Cadillac Sedan DeVille, not quite a boat but close and I love it.) I actually told one guy who was trying to get parked so he could head to the baseball field that if he left his vehicle sticking out in my driveway that the guy who drove the pickup parked there would run over his nice new Blazer, he moved it...
Have I told you all how much I hate tax season.
No it's not so much the work involved, tho that does get a bit frustrating. All my flowers start to bloom and I miss them. Right now I have iris' just beginning to open, my rose bushes are covered in buds, the crabapple has begun to bloom(this is the 1st year).
Well must go help fix dinner. Hope all of you have had a lovely weekend. Whitney, Evelyn, Grandma Mil, you ladies have done a wonderful job of the Follie pictures. Hug to all at PC and have a good week.
Sherrlyn

Posted by: Sherrlyn on April 7, 2003 07:07 AMfrom IP: 207.19.4.138

Hi to the PC!!
Hi Whitney! wowowowowowo a stripping how to? ooolalala!!! *grinn* that's mighty brave!
i love it!!! lol but yes, i think that "petal" thing or one hip circles thing is mighty brave too!!! LOL

Hey Enzzzzo:
Here's Pt II of my ode to AMELIE: (para ti)
Absorbing true light, dark Egyptian eyes miss nothing.
She knows intimately the forgotten, lovely someone and No One.
Daring only to dream in twilight blues,
and a whisper grin of QUINCE!! met at misty golden-hued rooftops.
Her spyglass ever ready
keeps ritual secrets haunting and lovely
behind filmy coral curtains,
through a potten garden window,
on the third floor
of many yesterdays.
Will pupil come to Master
or Master come to pupil
to complete the incomplete -
puzzling in the final piece?
One cannot paint the Personality of inexperience,
can He?


Hugz D..,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 7, 2003 08:17 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101

Hey Sherrlyn: my brother, sis and I and all of our neighborhood friends used to chuck crabapples at one another when kids... I got such a grinn when i read ur post. we were so baaaaad. it was fun tho.little delinquents. LOL oh those crabapple wars!!!!

resident mischief maker - but all in good twinkling fun,
Katalina

tossing crabapple at Inn -kerpow! snicker, snicker, snicker!! hehehehehe

Posted by: Katalina on April 7, 2003 08:43 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101

Crabapple wars? predacessor to paintball i think. LOL...
Ok Inn - I'm bad aim, so no worries!
(but I have sinking feeling ur sharpshooter...gulp!)

Kat

Posted by: Katalina on April 7, 2003 08:53 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101

Diane, Congrats on 19 years!!!! I actually posted a bit ago but for what ever reason it didnt make it?!?

I cant comment on the Monty as this site is being monitored by people who are not pleased or happy if I say something prior to their schedule - read in to that what you will - am I am being gagged on my own site? Stay tuned to find out what happens next.

There is something else in the pipe line which I have had to sign a no speak order on. I should be able to say something in the next week but the suspense is killing me!!!! I may or may not get it, do it and so life goes on - but the suspense is KILLING ME.

You know in some ways you guys are lucky! There is no one offering you a job (that you would really like) but threatenihng you that if you talk about it they will sue you! And they arent even offering the job! They say we may give it to you but you have to jump through some hoops and we will see what happens as they are talking to three other parties, oh and by the way can you act? Its a prick of a proffession!

If all this seems a bit scatty- it is, I cant talk about it, my life, my experience, I cant talk about it - any reason for that - Yes - they wish to make the announcement. So stay tuned!

Posted by: Paul on April 7, 2003 08:21 PMfrom IP: 211.28.96.68

This is very exciting Paul! We don't have to know specifics; we always hope the best for you. It's sad that you can't be yourself on your own site, but the things you can't tell us are the things we've been hoping for, so I think we can handle the suspense. Maybe you can develop the recipe and poetry sections more. Evelyn was wishing for a recipe that required the use of some leftover beer. Can you help her?

Whatever happens, I feel safe speaking for everyone when I say we really enjoy your work and we have no doubt that you're on your way to more fun and exciting opportunities! We so want to see you on that big screen again (or the stage). There's a reason for everything dear Paul, so sit tight, but keep knocking on those doors. remember what your mum said: perseverance wins!

Thanks for letting us in on the fact that you can't let us in on the facts. Enjoy the suspence. It beats the hell out of knowing you didn't get the part (though that's unlikely if it's the right one for you) and heightens the pleasure when you do. It's a small sacrifice to make. Good night and sweet dreams Paul.

Good morning Grandma. No email this morning? Et tu Evelyn?

Good morning Everyone. Have a grand day!
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 7, 2003 09:09 PMfrom IP: 129.71.188.83

Paul, say, is the suspense really KILLING you or what? ;-)

Wishing you the best--more later on hip circles, etc. Now I'm in suspense with Paul. Thanks, chum!

Hugs,
Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on April 7, 2003 09:53 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Hey Paul...don't sweat it mate. You do what you gotta do. We're just your curious cheering squad. We totally understand privacy and contracts and corporate bullshit in all its forms. So hey just know we're behind you a 1000% and hoping for the absolute best. Love hearing you'll notifywhne you can...that's the best we can hope for. Awesome.

Hoping for the best as always...

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 8, 2003 03:23 AMfrom IP: 216.78.40.3

Paul,
Sounds promising, despite the restrictions.

We all have to do our best to get on in this wacko commercial world, complete with rules, restrictions, pressures, arse covering manouvres, etc....
It seldom seems fair, but that's all there is.
If it were fair, would a marketing person selling ads for McDonalds get paid five times the salary of the school teacher of the same child who will unfortunately be convinced to buy one of those burgers? I think not.
Where's the value? Where's the fairness? Where's the sense in it?

Never mind the strings. They will loosen and fall off eventually.
It must be really tough for an expressionate, artistic person such as you, but when it's all said and done, it's just another hoop (to jump through). HANG IN THERE!!
Very best of wishes for the BEST outcome.

A good day to all.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on April 8, 2003 04:36 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8

Ok, quick before I dash off for home in this freaking BLIZZARD...

Sinking the navel. Stand feet shoulder width apart and bend knees slightly. Exhale and draw your navel in towards your backbone. Don't round your shoulders! You're aligning your pubic bone, navel, and heart chakra/center (middle of your chest, about 2inches behind your breastbone). TADA! Presto! Sunken Navel!

Now the hard part--your waist is the equator, and you want to draw u's with your navel, being careful not to raise your hip bone above the "equator". (You DO raise your hip above that line, but not in this most basic, most centering move.)

This motion, the "u", is described in Bedouin lore as the beginning of creation, and the actual, textual representation of it, (a dot with an upturned parenthesis underneath it) is the word for "Is" (as in the English verb, "to be") which is also the root word for their word for "Creator". So, by making this movement, by drawing this text with the center of your being, you are dancing yourself into being. (the teacher never mentioned that, this is something I read and have thought about since last year.)

I think I'll go home and work on that. ;-)

Blessings and Light,
Dhiana
(sans the finger symbals..."zills"...they're for MUCH later when I get my arm movements out of the wounded duck phase. I need a studio.)

Posted by: Dhiana on April 8, 2003 05:51 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Paul, don't let the suspense kill you. We'd miss you too much if it did! Although the feeling of having your life sort of put on hold (something I currently can relate to), having to wait for the outcome of something is tough esp. when you don't get to talk about it, and at the same time can be exciting. I hope this isn't too distracting for you. Wishing for the best possible outcome for you!!!

Whit, don't take it personally this week, when you don't get an email as promptly from me as you normally do. You know this is my big work week from hell, even though I'm not going to let it be "from hell." I'm going to stay calm, focused, polite (even when I want to /should strangle someone ...), smile and have fun, go with the flow and not let this conference overwhelm me. Things will go wrong and not as smoothly as I want them to, but that's life and I will think on my feet and come up with a solution. That's the plan anyway, let's see how I measure up against that one :-)

Katalina, who's Enzzzo? I like your residence mischief.

Dhiana, the sinking navel part I get, get to do it a lot in Pilates, but the equator movement I'd have to practise too, a lot. Sounds fun though and I like the symbolism (if it is that) behind the motion.

Oh and Tim, I actually think that Grandpa looks totally hot in the Follies pictures!!! Nope, I'm not making a move on Grandma's husband (or for that matter anyone else's husband) ... blushing to at least the same shade of red as the background of Follies, perhaps even more. :-)

Okay, before I get myself into any more trouble, I'm out. Have a lot to do left tonight anyway. Want to sleep though.

Peace, love and serenity to all.
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on April 8, 2003 09:05 AMfrom IP: 128.101.248.131

I'm just going to reiterate what everyone else is saying and even repeat myself. How unusual is that? Ha. The success you are due for Paul far far exceeds this momentary muteness required by the powers to be. Of course they want to make their own publicity statements about who will be appearing in their next show. To let it out might not give adequate time to prepare. SO, I understand and we all understand your limited dialogue, and for those of your potential "people" that may be reading this board, you've got the absolute BEST PERSON for the part. We have total and complete trust in his ability to give an outstanding performance. So much so, that myself and my wife, once we get complete details on "what" Paul is doing are planning a trip to Australia to SEE it.

My wife is going to work for a Hospital here in Atlanta. We'll have incredible health and dental benefits. My job has changed too, I'm working at the salon on Saturdays and I started a Mobile Salon business. My old customers are calling me up and I'm doing their hair in their homes. Here's the difference. A $425 day in the salon equates to about $195 for me. Now a $425 day at their homes amounts to about $390 for me (less chemicals and petro). Viva la difference!

Well

peace and love to everone.

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 8, 2003 09:26 AMfrom IP: 216.78.44.66

Wow. I came here a long time ago before seeing Paul in any movies. I finally saw Strictly Ballroom. It was great, although my mom was wondering why I was watching it. I guess I don't usually watch that kind of a movie. :/ I love this Paul's corner section. It's nice to see Paul posting a lot. Best wishes in the future Paul!

~Jenny

Posted by: Jenny on April 8, 2003 09:36 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187

WHAM! Struck with a crabapple while writing poetry. Gotcha Kat!
Well, I'm in the mood to whine..please forgive and feel free to skip this post. Ok, here goes...I'm so sick of snow. I haven't really had much of problem with my seasonal depression for several years but I'm tell you gang, if I don't see some green outside my window soon I am going to lose it. We had a few nice days and I really thought Spring was loose. Then it got cold again and it snowed all dang day today. The irony of all this is I am decended from Inuit (or at least my name is, the rest is unclear) and I hate the cold and snow. Funny huh? I'm looking forward to those lovely days when I have water gun fights with the kids. Oh, dear summer please hurry, I fear these old joints of my will be frozen forever if you don't.

Posted by: Innussiq on April 8, 2003 09:39 AMfrom IP: 65.196.121.226

OMG..how selfish am I?!?!? Paul, I am eager to hear your news too! I'm happy that business is picking up for you. Don't worry too much about the legal B.S. we will know soon enough. Just think how much fun it is to keep us all hanging on our seats!

Posted by: Innussiq (again) on April 8, 2003 09:44 AMfrom IP: 65.196.121.226

Paul...How great that things are percolating and will soon bubble over. You know in what high regard everyone holds you. Good things must come soon. Like spring the midwest US...as I plow through six inches of snow in April. Please! Enough of winter rearing its ugly self.

All the best to you, Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 8, 2003 10:22 AMfrom IP: 216.93.117.5

Wow...the suspense is killing us too Paul!!
We're with ya! Fingers, toes, eyelashes crossed for good luck!!!!!!
This has gotta be a good thing, tho...I think.
But just in case u need a little release...you can take it out on us in a crabapple war!
Booosh! Slam! Whack! Bif! (Holding up garbage lid shields...LOL)

I ducked Inn!!! (cleaning off wall next to computer) Blech. LOL

Thx for the navel sinking description and background, Dhi. wow sounds beautiful. How long have u been doing bellydancing?

Evelyn: uhmmm..re: Enzzzzo...(blush) no comment.
i was surprised to see the post. received a call alerting me to it. He's nice.

Hi Whitney! Hi Peter, Hi Tim, Linda, D...


Hope everyone has a wonderful day/eve.
And hope we have some NEWS from Paul real soon!!!
Jeeesh. suspense suspense suspense...
(throws another crabapple)

:) wink n a grinn,
Katalina


Posted by: Katalina on April 8, 2003 11:00 AMfrom IP: 64.12.96.171

What do ya mean left over beer??????!!!!!?????? You'd never cut it in Oz if you leave bits of beer all over the place!? But hey if you do - why not throw it in some flour with a little yeast and salt and dried herbs. Mix into a dough chuck in some finely cubed cheese and maybe some salami/chorizo /bacon/ or ham, turkey, duck , blood sausage/ chicken etc and bake up some yummy savoury bread? Oh you could also dice up some jalapeno's and chuck them in too!

BUT really left over beer?

Crabapple??? Thats a tree isnt it? You know it is funny because I would love to wake up and see the world covered in snow. I remeber when I was back packing through Europe and I went to Switzerland for Xmas - oh god it was beautiful! I remember skating at a rink on the top of a mountain and everything was covered in snow. I have often said to my US agent that I would love to make a movie in the snow and she keeps saying no you dont. Sure it would be cold, wet, slushy and hard yakka but I rather think I would love it. Besides after work I could light a fire and slowly sup some good malty beer to warn my inside whilst warming my outsides by the fire. All the while staring out of the window and looking at a whole new world all white, pure and innocent. And you can be sure I would enjoy it and you can also be sure I wouldnt have a bit of beer left over!

Posted by: Paul on April 8, 2003 02:55 PMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Paul,
I believe there is a universal spirit that helps to guide us. this is made up of the collective minds of all. Overiding this is the greater being - God. Known to many. Sometimes, you must put your best foot forward, and then consiously leave the result to him. Rejoice in his result as the best for you. We all have goal posts to clear, but mnay times they creep forward just as we pass them.
You are tremendously successful and provide the push I need from time to time. I hope you feel my gratitude.
Cheers, Peter

Posted by: Peter Lynch on April 8, 2003 03:33 PMfrom IP: 203.27.69.124

Paul, as Tara sings (in "Time After Time") "I will be waaaaiting"...that's us!

Timbo, what an inspiration for you to go on the road with your services! May I suggest that you also contact the senior communities in Atlanta.

We seniors keep a lot of beauty parlors going here in Florida! A lot of seniors cannot get out of their homes because of health or transportation problems, and I am sure the same goes in Atlanta.

Sorry to hear about all the bad weather..Ellie and I haven't seen a snowflake since we retired. We don't miss the northern winters at all.

Paul, does sitting around a fire and sipping some nice beer beat sitting beside a warm, lovely, sparkling pool and sipping the same beer? Down here the seniors have to be careful not to sip too much..no lifeguards!

Evelyn and Whit are putting the finishing touches on the "Follies" website. What a beautiful and touching tribute to the show and our family...I have tried to thank them over and over, but words just do not suffice. I will have to think of something...

Good fortune, good health, peace and love,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 8, 2003 06:28 PMfrom IP: 209.86.187.63

Paul...
I don't drink anymore but when I did Leftover???? that was NEVER an issue. For one it costs to much and damn if I'd ever waste a drop of any thing with an alcohol level. An amusing recipe though. My mother used to boil shrimp in beer, mind you it was not left over it was a fresh six pack.

Snow...Hmmm...My wife skied in Switzerland and thought the snow was incredible and beautiful and awe inspiring, however, in Atlanta when it snows, it's just one big ugly damn mess. It's cute for a day while it covers the trees then everything turns to ice and it gets dirty and well that's the end of that and we're all wanting it to fade away which it usually does in a couple of days. Inn...you have my condolences sweety..I would never and could never move myself to a colder region. Would love to relocate out of country but I guess the best I may ever do is get back out to Southern Cal.

Are you still selling computers Paul? Just out of curiosity have you told them of your impending possibilities or do you just keep it mum until you know you're OUTTA THERE.

It's inside projects today. The kids are on spring break and we're taking the opportunity while we are all home to get our house cleaned out and all repairs completed. Never know if we may need to sell it. Although I'd love to, but the MRS doesn't.

Have to pick up my taxes today and mail those off. After world war II taxes were supposed to be a temporary thing? HELLO?????? And we left England because of let's see taxes and debtors prison????? Well I seem to fit both of those categories here so now where do I go??

I will share this if I haven't already. One family my wife works for, and I help her from time to time with it, is a retired banker. Their current residence is for sale (2.4 million). Their beach house in South Carolina is worth about $3million. They bought more land on an island near Charleston S.C. and are building another home. They are not poor. Whilst (love that expression), emptying the trash in the Masters office, I ran across a spreadsheet..well I couldn't help but look...I mean all these years of accounting. Gross income $13 million, federal taxes $7 million. Then another house of the same caliber my wife cleans, she's straightening up the gentlemens desk and on the top...no digging, we're not nosy seriously, his monthly bonus. $165,000. He's a financier lives here and has an apartment in Manhattan.

I figure if I keep cleaning up their shitty toilets somethings bound to rub off and hopefully not the shit. : )

Love and Peace guys

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 8, 2003 06:39 PMfrom IP: 216.78.33.3

Peter, great to see you on this board!! Long time friend, long time journey man. To be inspired by you, to share that journey and to continue on as we grow older(I turned 40 last week by the way and where is my card???)always friends, always journey man, alway inspiration to one another is a special gift. Thank you. By the way god is a girl!!! Lets have a skate soon!

Grand Ma, sitting any where sipping on a beer, contemplating life and being with friends is heaven in itself. Even if being with friends is just thinking of them, even the ones we havent actualy met yet!

Tim, what matters is the quality of life not the quantity. People have judged me because I have recieved big pay packets for a film - they never have a concern that I must sell computers to actually feed my family and buying clothes become a struggle. The point is what we percieve is perhaps what we desire but not necessarily what we actually need to make us better humans. I want, therefore I am dissapointed because I do not have. The act of wanting actually determines the fact of not having for if I have it I dont want it. There for to want it means I cannot have it. Know what I mean.

I understand where you are coming from. What some people have is amazing but what they dont have is equally amazing.

I had a job once where I was paid a handsome salary over a 2 month gig. After the job finished I was unemployed for 6 months - couldnt get a job - typical for a freelance actor. What it meant was that my handsome wage became a US $200 a week package to live on over 8 months. Too hard - only just survived and do not want do it again.

We all struggle to survive either financially, spiritually or phyisically. I have always known but am constantly reminded the only person who can save you is you. You are the saviour. To you it falls to live the life you will, to be the best you can, to lick your wounds and get up to fight again to run again to express to live to laugh and to love

You my friends

YOU

Posted by: Paul on April 8, 2003 08:44 PMfrom IP: 211.28.96.68

Dear Paul, I can agree that not wanting will prevent disappointment, but from my experience, wanting something is essential to my having. Wanting won't guarantee I get. What I want may not be right for me and if I'm blessed, I only get the best things. It is possible, obviously, to get things that I want even though they aren't good for me. After all, we do have free will in the end.

Dog out!
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 8, 2003 09:07 PMfrom IP: 129.71.184.137

Can I please "salvage" my reputation re. having left over some beer ONCE!!! I don't make a habit out of it, but since I've been so busy lately, I've often forgotten to eat all day and when I threw in the beer at the end of the day, it just so went to my head, there was no way I managed to finish it, get the picture? it did help me sleep for 11 hours though. Boy did I need that. And thanks Paul for the bread suggestion to use up left over beer (should that happen again) I'll try that next week when I hopefully have a life again. So can I please still come and visit OZ one of these days and "make it"? Switzerland, skiing, snow, skating outdoors-dang, open fire to warm up by, beer or spiked hot chocolate to warm up with ... I'm homesick now, I miss the mountains. But I'm with Inn, Linda, Dhiana on this one, I want SPRING, NOW!!!

I also see your point, Paul, about it being up to us to live our life and make it what we want it to be. Had a few powerful lessons there lately, it was my choice to make whether I would be angry, pissed, hurt, stressed, upset about a lot of things that just came my way and for a week I was in this negative state of mind totally getting on my own nerves etc. and I was a total mess and in a very unfun and also unhealthy state of mind, but then I decided that I could choose to be happy, choose to accept the circumstances, accept those things that I couldn't change and be happy, calm and to let go instead. The inner peace I found this way is amazing and the calmness with which I go about my day is affecting others as well in a positive way and I'm enjoying the challenging circumstances. It's really amazing to watch myself and to see the positive impacts it's having on me. Finding inner strengths in me that I didn't know I had.

Be well, have fun with life, have peace.
Love,
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on April 8, 2003 09:57 PMfrom IP: 128.101.253.144

Paul, I thought about your thoughts on my dog walk and I think it's important to remember that it's the illusion that our happiness will come from a particular event or object that leads to disappointment. We must keep an open mind as to what will lead us along our best possible journey. Hang in there little bro.

Good morning everyone. Especially you, sweet Mil. Peace on earth and good will to all.
Love,
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on April 8, 2003 09:57 PMfrom IP: 129.71.184.137

Hello, big sis, we posted at the same time!!!

One more thing, for grandma, the fact that you are enjoying the follies 2003 site as much as you do, is the best reward you could give me and all the thanks that I need!

Love,
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on April 8, 2003 10:18 PMfrom IP: 134.84.252.164

Paul,

Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would be writing to you on your website and that you might actually read it but here I am. I have been a fan of yours since seeing SB 18 times in the theatre and have been eagerly checking out your corner for the last couple of months (just found it). I am curious about one thing and hope you don't mind me asking - why do you think that God is a she?
Okay now I am going to go be sick because I actually wrote something to you.
Robin

Posted by: Robin on April 8, 2003 11:06 PMfrom IP: 65.239.127.202

Paul...The lovely picture you paint of snow falling, a cozy fire, and something warm to drink is the way winter always begins. But my mid-January in mid-US, we are dying for spring. And by April, it is way overdue. A piece of ice fell off an overpass this morning and smashed the passenger side of my car windshield. Scared the hell out of me but it was only the windshield. Icey things should not be falling from the sky in April! Linda

Posted by: on April 9, 2003 03:03 AMfrom IP: 161.225.1.12

sniff, we didn't get our Snow this year...

what a fairyland when it comes. the whole city shuts down in a quiet, pristine glistening diamond featherbed blanket. and the sky is that lovely periwinkle silvery white. neighbors talk to neighbors while walking to the store...youth is restored to all in pink cheeks, sledding excitement, and school and work closures!!
we get out our hats, mittens, snowboots and mufflers and bring out our sleds, skis, toboggans, inner tubes and begin to play again....into the late hours not knowing how long it will last. there's snow angels and maple sugar snowcandy, and sometimes a quick warmup with hot soup then back into the chill air again. pure magic, pure innocence again.
pure JOY!

yes, snow does that to us, i think...

snowy easter hugz to all,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 9, 2003 03:46 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

BTW: hi Inn! guess what? 3 more days...till my friend comes to visit. Yippeeeeeee.
Howz the goal of to-Canada going? Hope all is well.

hugz,
Kat

Posted by: katalina on April 9, 2003 03:48 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Robin, that's a good question. PersonalIy, I'm guessing that the characteristics of male and femaleness are derived from facets of our Originator/origination. In my opinion, something was lost in the translation to humanity, resulting in the stereotypical behavior of men and women and the existence of two genders. For that reason I don't give God one gender. I doubt that God has one;) I think gender was possibly applied in the past by translators of religious writings, but I also believe that ancient disciples of God gave God a gender to help folks conceptualize or imagine. What do you think Paul?

Posted by: Whitney on April 9, 2003 03:52 AMfrom IP: 129.71.184.175

Linda, I'm glad you weren't hurt! I wanted to tell Paul exactly what you said regarding snow in April.
Romantic notions of snow do not make it through mid February. Snow in April after we have basked in sunny 70 degree weather is like a slap in the face! The Cubs are playing today at Wrigley Field and there is snow on the ivy. That is just so sad. (Wiping away tears) Go Cubbies!
Ahhhhh...drinking beer and watching baseball.

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on April 9, 2003 04:17 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Paul
Agreed...it's not the large sums of money that make people who they really are. It's actually funny that it usually causes a lot of envy more than anything. Like you said people begrudged your checks...Fooey on them. You did the work and like you said..sometimes you have to stretch those suckers out over long periods of time.
At this point in my life all I really want is the basics. I'd love a small place in a warm environment near the water. Spend my time on the beach, or sailing or hiking with my kids, or mountain biking or anything other than a lot of yard work. And of course money for travel..Priorities.

Aunt Mil..you're right about the senior communities, most of them have buses that take them to salons or schools near their residence or they have a salon in-house. But it's a great idea I'll have to give it a shot.

Later guys...have a great rest of the day or morning whichever is applicable.

peace and love to everyone

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 9, 2003 05:19 AMfrom IP: 216.78.41.1

Ha ha Evelyn. I just read the posts where you were derided for having left-over beer. As I mentioned in my email, it wasn't until after I wrote, that I realized that Paul would struggle with that concept. It's a tough one for me too, but I understand there are moments when it's better to stop before you (gulp) finish the whole bottle. At least you got an interesting recipe from the revelation.

On to work,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 9, 2003 05:51 AMfrom IP: 129.71.186.125

Oh sure, snow starts out all cozy and pristine and innocent. Then...(dum dum DUM) your gutters fall off from the ice, you have to haul shovels full from the driveway to the back yard cuz there is nowhere else to put it. You have to spend 600$ a month for heat and that's with the fireplace. The kids have no holidays off and they have to go to school until the third week of June because they have used so many snow days. Oh, and lets not forget that snow days never happen on the parents day off so you must arrange for babysitters. I also have to shovel a path in the yard because my tiny little jack russell terrier won't go anywhere else but, and she can't walk in more than about two inches of the white stuff. There are so many other points I could pull out here but then I've already made myself sick with bitching about it.
Anyway, Linda I'm glad your safe. Darn Kat, I thought for sure I hit you, make sure you let me know how your visit goes. I'm still planning to get to Canada, so far so good.
Timbo, you line about the toilets cracked me up. It does suck to work hard and feel like you have nothing. Especially when you have kids, because you want to be able to do things for them that it takes money to do. We keep forgetting they will love us anyway.
Ok, bit talkative today.
Hi to all you folks in warm sunny places, and peace to all of you suffering an extended winter.
Inn

Posted by: Innussiq on April 9, 2003 08:11 AMfrom IP: 65.196.121.56

Welcome Robin, Thank you for joining us! God is a girl/woman because she is the creator - woman give birth not men hence we have mother earth hence I have decided to view god as a woman as a mother - creator nuturer.

The greater truth is as my friend Peter Lynch said a "universal spirit". I agree with Whitney god does not have a gender although one has been assigned through out the ages for a convenience factor (and an ego factor for men. I would also go a little further and the say the name god has been contrived for our convenience. It's a lot easier than saying 'the positive power of the universe', 'all that is', 'universal spirit'etc

I dont believe in god as such although I use the word for convenience sake. When I use the word god what I am actually talking about is 'the positive power of the universe', 'all that is', 'universal spirit', and all these thoughts actually add up to one thing - Love.

Innussiq - I know what you mean. I hate Tuesdays because I have to put the rubbish out - what a winger once a week and I get upset and it only takes me two minutes!!!! Shovelling snow for the dog?!?!?!?! No friggin way. I'm with you COME ON SPRING!

Posted by: Paul on April 9, 2003 09:46 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

I love this place. It really makes this 14 year old (me) think. I believe that there is only one true God. God has no gender. Ugh...I want spring to come too. It was here, but now there is snow outside again. School was cancelled because it caused a water main break, it's really cold, and my soccer game was cancelled. Actually, I want summer right now, not spring. I'm so sick of the cold! Thank you guys for expanding my mind to different possibilities! (I hope that made sense.)

Posted by: Jenny on April 9, 2003 10:12 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187

Welcome Jenny and thank you for joining in.

Posted by: Paul on April 9, 2003 11:32 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Tim, your door to door senior hair care service is pure genius and provides a compassionate alternative to a cab ride to the local salon. Good for you! You're "richer" than any financier. Still, I'm curious what is one?

Thanks for responding to Robin's question Paul. I was curious about your opinion.

Robin, I think it's magical and beautiful to contemplate God in any form. I love the idea of Earth Mother and wouldn't discourage anyone from attributing a gender. However, for me, just trying to imagine a Higher Order looking out for us since before the beginning of time, is a big leap. We can't know anything for sure 'til the end, so I'm glad everyone is free to think for themselves. Paul summed it up well; everything seems to be about love. Somehow it powers the cosmos.

Good night Grandma. I love you.
I hope the snow relents for poor Linda and Inn. Was that a crabapple that just whized by??? Katalina?????

Posted by: Whitney on April 9, 2003 12:11 PMfrom IP: 129.71.189.86

Hi Paul! Thank you for replying and giving me a warm welcome. I really think that I am going to enjoy it here. The reasoning of your posts are great. Well, I better be off to bed. Bye!

Posted by: Jenny on April 9, 2003 12:12 PMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187

dang, had to dodge flying crabapples, but finally got here!

yipper folks!!! god has to be a woman, no way would a man god make it snow in chicago when the cubs are playing!

"sinking the navel" and picturing the goddess dhiana zigzaging the car while practicing that move - i gotta find my recipe for a fuzzy navel!!

my philosophy, albeit a bit skewed at times...there's only one ride on this ol' planet and i might just as well enjoy it even when it's a bit bumpy!!!

so robin, did you throw up?

later all....or as whit sez "dog out" (lol)

Posted by: bluedog on April 9, 2003 12:31 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30

I'm back, if only briefly. (Yeh, I hear ya', "Let's hope she means it.")

Paul and Evelyn, thanks for your anniversary wishes. (Paul, I actually saw your earlier post before it disappeared. Or... maybe I'm just crazy. ...Your choice.) Ten years ago, I didn't know if my honey and I would make it; but here we are. It hasn't been easy, but it's been a great journey. We have become much than we thought we could be. And even though times are tough for us, we still have our sense of humor. (Marrying on April Fools Day was our way of reminding ourselves of the need for levity throughout our lives together.)

Evelyn, you did a spectacular job with Millie's and Whitney's photos — and your "guest" appearances! Millie and Elliott, you have a beautiful family. I continue to keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. And what a great theatre! Geez. I'd love to perform in a place like that. Okay, at some point, let's all meet in Florida and "let's put on a show". BTW, Millie, I thought "Chicago" was great. I really identify with the added song, "We Just Move On."

Whitney, did you know that you glow in those photos? You are really radiant. I'm glad that you had such a good time! And I know what you mean about lack of job satisfaction. I'm still trying to get there.

Right now, I'm weighing my options. (Greg, what is the market like for massage therapists these days?) I realized this past weekend that I can't stay at my current "paying" job. I've discovered through my personal observations and the stories relayed by my co-workers that my employers are not ethical or trustworthy. It turns my stomach; but I don't want to quit until the owners return from an ill-timed vacation because I don't want to leave their long-time employees in the lurch during the busiest season of the year. So my stress level has hit the ceiling. Last week, I miscalculated a move in my car that resulted in negligable impact to the SUV in the next lane (more damage to my car). Now this woman whose bumper I buffed is filing a claim. What's next?

Paul, I concur with your description of God.

Michelle, how did our Cubs do? Sorry for you folks who are still struggling with snow. It's great to visit, I know, but living in that weather is another story altogether.

Welcome, Robin! Welcome, Jenny!

Greetings to everyone.

Love,

Diane

Posted by: Diane on April 9, 2003 01:41 PMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102

Diane, I sent you anniversary congrats on the last thread..I didn't forget! Thank you for your comments about our children, and about the website.

I was allowed to be part of Evelyn's beautiful website, which was so generous of Evelyn. She and Whit are both beautiful women, inside and out, and stop blushing, you two!!! Grandma has spoken and she is (almost) always right!!!

Diane, it's a coincidence that you also love "Movin' On" from "Chicago." I am hoping to include that in my next Follies...in 2 years!!

What a great number that is..I also love Queen Latifa's "When You're Good to Momma." I just learned it as my newest lipsync. What a gal, that Queen Latifia. She's only 33 years old, and her real name is Dana Owens, and she's from East Orange, New Jersey. She should have won the Oscar for best supporting role!

This afternoon I'm taking 10 of my Follies performers to appear as the entertainment at a club luncheon. We are invited for lunch (bagels, cream cheese, pastry) and then we put on a mini show for an hour. Yes, we get a small stipend for our own group, The Wynmoor Entertainers. Another time we will also perform for charitable organizations for free..that is called our outreach program.

Right now the Iraqis are dancing and cheering in the streets of Baghdad..can it be that Saddam is gone, and the war will be winding down? Praise the Lord!

Love and Peace,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 9, 2003 06:34 PMfrom IP: 209.86.160.205

Aunt Mil...you amaze me. You live such a fulfilled and happy life. God I want your spirit for it.
I agree with Paul about the definition of God. And the term is just for ease of use. So thank God for this board and all the support we get from each other.
I forgot who asked, short term memory loss here, the financier? He's a big whig with a bank/brokerage firm in Manhattan arranging huge financing projects for multi billion dollar projects and such. Obtaining bonds where necessary, funds from foreign as well as US investors and putting the whole package together.
Jenny welcome to the corner. Everyone is kind and has a spirit of gold. We also have bad days and good days and we tell each other about them, so feel free. Our main man here is inspiring us with his determination and perseverance in his field. So we can always say if Paul can do it then hey we can keep pushing forward too right?

That follies show is such a site. Purely amazing. I'm going to have to post some pictures from our little tap dance ...you'll get to meet me and my two youngest sons and then what the hell I'll post a family picture too so you can see my little princess.

Always a pleasure. Greetings to everyone hope spring comes soon for you guys with all the snow, although even here in Atlanta it's in the 40's today and the 30's tomorrow then it's back up to the70's for the weekend. It's hell on outdoor gardens. Not to mention the a/c or heater. One minute you're running the A/C and then you wake up with ice hanging from the ceiling fan so you have to cut the heat on to warm the place up a bit. But that does not compare to you guys digging out paths just to walkthe dog or get out of your driveway...sorry but NO WAY.

Peace and love to everyone. Hope this war is over soon.

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 9, 2003 07:33 PMfrom IP: 216.78.45.141

bluedog, your logic is hard to dispute. Maybe God is female! I like your philosophy.

Diane, let me add my belated congratulations on your anniversary. It sounds like you've made it to the more stable phase they call compannionate love.

Millie makes people glow. She's adorable!

Message therapists make as much as $50+ an hour in WV and this is a poor state. One of my friends goes door to door to give messages in people's homes. He and his mother also rent space and provide relaxation massage services. If you're a giving person, it can be a very profitable career.

Go get 'em Mil! I'm sure your audience will love your performance.

I hope this is the end of the war. I pray God will continue to protect your growing family.

Hey Tim, I was the quizical one. So a financier is sort of a money hustler sort of like a movie producer? Sounds sort of boring.

Millie does have a wonderful life with her Elliot. I hope we all reach this level of satisfaction in our prefered ways.

Welcome Robin and Jenny. I hope you'll keep coming to the Corner. The more the merrier! Tim's right; bring your concerns here if you need a variety of caring responses.

Linda, before I forget, sorry to hear that you didn't get the gig. When I read about the coin flip it really ticked me off! Maybe this means there's a bigger job that waits for you right around the corner.

Well Saddam's statue just came down. His icon is taking a well deserved beating and the people seem happy. God bless free Iraq and protect her people.

Dog out!
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 9, 2003 10:52 PMfrom IP: 129.71.190.56

G'day all at PC.

(yep Whit...still working off extra energy with those crabapple zingers..LOL)

I agree...April is way too late for snow (i do like it in winter tho..but we just don't get it here anymore)...so, bring on the sun..I'll take it...Been stuck in 189 shades of gray lately in latteland. I want the yellow orb baaaaad!!!
Bring it!

Hope everyone has a great day/eve.

(2 more days...till zzzz-day LOL...Hi D. and hey bebe, I'm bringing my Q. LOL)


Hugz to all,
Katalina


Posted by: Katalina on April 9, 2003 11:25 PMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

LOL Bluedog - actually I didn't throw up but I sure felt embarrassed for hours about posting a comment to Paul. I have a habit of placing celebrities (especially ones that I really like) way above me so the thought of him reading it threw me in a tizzy.
Paul - thank you for answering me and explaining your views on God. I'm going to have to live with the "agree to disagree" philosophy because I believe there is a real God who created us and sent His Son to die on the cross for us. Maybe He isn't man or woman in his form in Heaven but He chose to reveal himself and Jesus refers to Him as Father.
Anyways, I don't mean to stir up trouble my first few times posting. Just wanted to know your views.
Thanks,
Robin

Posted by: Robin on April 9, 2003 11:25 PMfrom IP: 65.239.127.231

Don't worry Robin. You'll find as many belief systems on this board as you will open minds. Follow your heart, as we all do and don't feel that you have to hide your belief in Christ.

Katalina, I 'm way out of the loop. What's zzzzzz -day and I'm afraid to ask, but what's your Q? If it's a top secret inside joke, I'll understand if you don't elaborate.

Whish... whish!!!! I almost nailed you with a crabapple! Sorry about knocking over that cup of java. I hope those papers didn't contain any of your wonderful writing. Your description of winter fun in a previous post was a pleasure to read. Do you write a lot? You could. You're good!

Good morning Grandma. It was so nice to hear your voice this morning. Break a leg today (not really of course). I can just imagine how much your troop will be appreciated.

And a special good morning to my hardworking, rascally little sis Evelyn. Your diligence will pay off in ways you can't even imagine (I enjoy sounding like an oracle sometimes). Keeping promises, being dependable and cherishing responsibility are actions that are universally admired. You're going places Doctor Eve!!!!!

Love to All,
Whitney

Posted by: Whitney on April 10, 2003 12:50 AMfrom IP: 129.71.186.50

Diane, the Cubs won yesterday and today! I hope the streak continues, but hey, they are the Cubs after all.
We finished our refinance today. Finally. Glad that's over. I doubt interest rates will ever be this low again.
All you people throwing crabapples make sure to clean up after yourselves. I have a dog who can't stop eating them. The other dog is a tomato eater. Picks them right off the plants. That's my girls!

Michelle in Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on April 10, 2003 06:34 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Will you please quit throwing the crabapples, I've only got blooms right now and would really like to see what they develope. It's not a very big tree and probably won't hold many. Now if you have a stockpile of crabapples go ahead and throw at will.
In my youth we had on the farm and in the pastures a gourd vine that made little gourds just bigger than a tennis ball, we used to chunk those at each other, over-ripe peaches were good too, but very messy.

I don't get into many of these discussions regarding "God". Maybe I don't understand the philosophy well enough.

I have my bosses 14 year-old wanting me to explain to him why I don't go to church, why I won't go to church with them, and whether or not I believe in "God". I've told him it is none of his business, it's not something I care to discuss with a 14 year-old, nor do I want to discuss it at work. He's very persistant, I've told him he either needs a girl friend or a pet. Of which I am neither.

Well I'm off to the office to work on more tax returns, 86 so far this year. Hope to have out a dozen more before Tuesday.

Hugs to all here at PC, welcome to the newbies.
Always good to have new blood join in. Never know what you might stir up. All in good fun, tho.

Paul, do keep us informed on the career situation, you know we are anxiously awaiting the news and know you can hardly contain yourself. We will wait for the right time and celebrate heartily with you via e-mail of course.

Sherrlyn

Posted by: Sherrlyn on April 10, 2003 07:22 AMfrom IP: 207.19.4.150

Para los que no sepan, "q" es definido como el fruto de la pasion. Un regalo sublime, y por lo tanto, un estimulo muy grande que la ~adorabile Katalina~ ha impregnado en mis pensamientos...lo que yo siento por ella no termina alli sino alcanza hasta lo infinito, el amor puro! Un "Q" del mas alla, un "Q" elevado.....

Posted by: enzzzzo on April 10, 2003 07:54 AMfrom IP: 192.246.17.190

Hey Whit!! Thx..uhmm..zzzz-day (as in Enzzzzo)is the day i get to meet someone very special in person. *grinn* LOL
Thx for the compliment...i do write some poetry...& used to write long ago (short stories), but am out of practice..just freeform. Since i'm a visual person (and a bit intuitive), i guess i like to work with that somewhat...but im not very polished, as u can tell. i just do it for me - it's a form of self expression:)K
(However..im aware of the many talented writers here on this very board...i can perhaps learn quite a bit from you all)

Hugz n beijos,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 10, 2003 07:56 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Yes, thanks again for your good wishes, Millie and Whitney. I do remember getting congratulations on the last thread, just don't recall from whom. I just saw the news footage about the statue. And I say amen to your prayer for the people of Iraq and for Millie's family and for Israel.

Paul, I join the others in wishing you great good fortune from the projects immediately before you and, of course, beyond.

Sherrlyn, working with and among the boss's family can be a major pain in the tuchas (Millie, help me with the spelling here). May you sail through the remaining paperwork with ease!

Crabapples. Are those the pinkish-yellowish fruits that are thin with a rattling seed when ripe? There was a fruit behind my great-grandmother's house when I was growing up. I never did know what it was called, but it tasted like flowers. If you know what I'm describing, please let me know what it's called.

Michelle (C), glad the Cubs did so well. I don't follow sports much anymore, but I like to plug into the joy and enthusiasm of those who do. (Does that make me a leech? Yuck.)

Now I'm off to the Track Booster meeting. More later.

Love to you all!

Posted by: Diane on April 10, 2003 10:01 AMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102

Hello everyone. Glad to hear everyone is doing so well. Throwing things at each other. Sounds like great therapy. I tend to throw dishes : (, so I had to give up my tendency to throw. Oh well, it's cold as shit here in Atlanta today. April my ass...it's in the 30's tonight...good god and by Friday it's supposed to be back up in the 70's. I hate these fluctuations they make me sick. Seriously.
Cool news. Went to see Cirque's new show Varekai tonight. Absolutely incredible. I have seen a lot of them and this one is definitely a good one. Paul you were there. Ha..got ya.
There was a dance scene in it a guy in a white tux shirt and black pants does kind of the solo you did in SB. Remember where you slide on your knees and turn around, and few air flips he had a partner that did all kinds of acrobatic moves along with his modern dance. He had dark hair and well you know...it could've been you. When I saw it I thought about you and SB. Watching them up close just made me appreciate your art so much more. They were simply amazing and the grace with which they moved and I know, from my brief little stint in tap how hard some very simple turns are and these guys moved like you. It was breathtaking. Wonderful. I recommend it to anyone that has the chance to see it.

Well guess I better hit the sack. The mansion calls in the morning, and then I do hair in the afternoon. While we were gone tonight, my niece babysat our kids. The pizza guy delivered dinner for the kids (dont'cha love that) and he gave my niece his number..she gets all gooey eyed and then he says I really want to buy your uncles Bug. I have a 1971 Convertible VW Bug. It needs repairs and of course now I don't have it to repair it, but hard hard choice. to sell my big boy toy or keep it. Probably sell it, wait for better times and buy another one.

Thank God this war appears to be over. Maybe the losses are at there limit and some true changes will now take place. I know you're excited Aunt Mil.

Peace and love guys.

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 10, 2003 12:19 PMfrom IP: 216.78.38.139

!!!it's getting hot in here!!! thanks to kat and enzzzzo - either that or kat's *grinn* means something else entirely and i better get back to ducking the crabapples and leave well enough alone!!!

sherrlyn, you cracked me up-sorry, can't quit laughing - it's not only the busiest time of the year for you but having to deal with a 14-year old kid trying to proselytize - you're right! the kid needs a girlfriend or a pet - sounds like some demented teen movie that you wandered into!!! Not much longer girl, April 15..do they give you the following day off?

later all...

Posted by: bluedog on April 10, 2003 12:22 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30

muhahaha bluedog: my grinn is simply a happy grinn..nada mas o no. *wink*
but yer right..maybe it is getting a little warm, must be the Habanero salsa, lol..hence some thoughts of snow (or snowcones) in April? ok, i'll leave off the crabapples. not quite in season yet anyhoo, right?..lol

enzzzzo: i was hoping q could remain "q"uiet..lol
too late now..quince quince quince!!! hasta viernes, D..! corazones cuidaran de corazones. nada se perdera. Alli puede solo es Funda! La Alegria incredula compartida! los embrazos, K.

Peace Inn baby!! Hope yer week's going well. I'm maybe heading up to the Olympic Peninsula this weekend w/my bud. Possibly the rainforest..Hall of Mosses, some nice old growth forest, etc. So even if it's raining..it should prove interesting. We have to take a ferry over so that will be kinda cool too. I'm looking forward to it.
How soon till Canada? Is it coming up quick?

Hugz to all at PC today/tonight.
I think it's time to catch my zzzz's (lol) now
:) Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 10, 2003 02:48 PMfrom IP: 205.188.209.101

Innussiq, Michelle, Whitney, Millie...Thanks for the hugs!

Diane...Belated anniversary greetings!

Peace and spring are getting closer, Linda

PS to Michelle...Go Cubbies! Heavens knows the Tigers are not moving.

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 10, 2003 07:21 PMfrom IP: 216.93.26.148

Yes, Diane dear, "tuchas" is fine, and very elegant to describe what our Timbo delicately calls "my ---!"

We must continue to exibit rigid decorum, for there are new, lovely, young people on the Corner, and we don't want them to think that we are a bunch of degenerates, so SHAPE UP EVERYONE! (And that goes for me too...I'm working out at the gym since last week and haven't lost an ounce!)

Your everlovin'

Grandma-Auntie Mame..oh, excuse me, Auntie Mil

Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 11, 2003 01:11 AMfrom IP: 209.86.187.98

i guess this means no more crabapples.
ok..shaping up! LOL

Have a good day everyone.
Hugz to all at PC

*smile*
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 11, 2003 02:25 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Auntie Mame...hahahahaha...gods woman, you crack me up.

Whit - you totally reminded me of my ever-favorite Canadian band RUSH, and their song "Free Will" -- "Even if you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice!...and I will chose Free Will"...(omg, totally back in my pizza delivery, bowl tokin', high school years now) Oh, and woops! Millie wanted us to clean up our acts for the new folks. Ah well...TAKE ME OR LEAVE ME! hahahahahaa...

My god, I am totally out of control today. Too many meetings. And then I emerge to beer chastisement (oh, Evelyn, hahaha...sorry love, but THAT was quite the target!) and crabapples. My brother used to whip those at my friends and I as we would ride our bikes down the street. Jerks. HE also shot my friend, Holly, in the leg with a bb gun as she was riding her bike. He's such an ass.

Ok, it is actually 50 degrees today and sunny. Yes there's still snow on the ground, but hell, I live in freaking Rochester,any day in which you can actually SEE the sun is a good one. I'll take it.

I am totally keeping my mouth shut about religion and spirituality. Ya'll know where this heathen stands (what's that? another song's breaking through...Indigo Girls, "The closer I am to Fine...". I can't help it! I am SUCH a music slut. I have Sheryl Crow and "Baroque Masterpieces" vieing for the next time the CD drive opens. Rachmaninov makes me sob. Loreena McKennitt makes me horny. Bagpipes make me want to stand and fight, you burly cur! I guess I am just very easily swayed, is all. ;-) Good thing I have Belly Dancing tonight!

Going, going....(poof!)

PS. Kat and enzzzo...youse guys gonna fess up or WHAT? ;-) And where is our lovely web-Mistress, Cat? Miss you, dahlink.

Posted by: Dhiana on April 11, 2003 02:32 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Hey Goddess Dhi: lol..nothing to fess yet
just a little trip to the rainforest to take in all of the lovely nature. we shall see...

It's so weird cuz I was just gonna post and ask everyone what they each have queued up in the CD currently and then poof there's ur post with a few excellent choices. cool!

currently Im am listening to a CD of Brazilian music and it's taking me away....it's sooooo gorgeous, lilting, ethereal. A friend from Brazil who lives in Holland just sent it to me and I haven't had it out of the CD for days.
All that was written on the casing was: CASA -Morelenbaum and Sakamoto. So...i must research it further. It's a female vocalist with the most amaaaaaazing voice I've ever heard. And she is accompanied by a brilliant pianist and some lovely haunting cello...mmmmmm

anyone else listening to anything interesting?

Hugz,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 11, 2003 02:41 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Yes, Katalina, while pedaling my brains out at the gym, I listen to the music of that dinosaur,
Montavani on my CD portable player. You all are much too young to know who he was. His orchestra's music was very romantic, still is, if you are 70+

My favorite selection of his is called "Flamingo", (a rhumba) and I visualize Scott dancing with Fran behind the curtains, Peggy Fleming and Kristi Yamaguchi skating at their magnificent best,
professional ballroom dancers doing their schtick etc., etc. OMG, I think I have a new idea for Follies 2005, and I've pedaled 15 minutes!

Love,

Grandma

Posted by: GRANDMA MIL on April 11, 2003 03:20 AMfrom IP: 209.86.185.185

I'm hoping to be post 100...did I make it? Hi All. Still cold here, but not so bad today.
Peace

Posted by: Innussiq on April 11, 2003 04:01 AMfrom IP: 12.172.242.170

Hi Katalina, just wanted to share this with you....

Casa—Morelenbaum/Sakamoto
(Sony Classical)
Sept. 12, 2002
by Kent Zimmerman
Contributing Editor


Sony ClassicalRyuichi Sakamoto, our favorite Japanese musician, interprets Jobim with Paula and Jacques Morelenbaum. With Jacques on cello, Ryuichi on acoustic piano, Paula does an amazing take on Astrid. The recording is clean, with immaculate cello tones. Ryuichi will surprise even long time fans (like he did us) with his spare accompaniment. There's sixteen songs here, all faithfully interpreted. But there's one track that truly parts the seas on first listen and that's "Bonita." In the quest for quality vocals, this one is our pick to click, morning, noon, or night. It's timeless.

from www.jazzweek.com

bye,
enzzzzo

Posted by: on April 11, 2003 04:59 AMfrom IP: 192.246.17.190

Enzzzo: Bonita was the one song I really clicked with!!!! I've been singing it in my head all week now...so lovely.
Thanks for the information. I have a feeling I will be following them a bit more now.
They have a cool site too.
Thx again D.

* shall i be the cloud for you...bonita?...*


Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 11, 2003 05:50 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Grandma: thx for sharing..I don't know Montavani, but will be looking it up. I like Heifitz (& he was long before my time) tho..LOL..so there are some oldies but goodies that i appreciate..
I do enjoy big band...Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington,Tommy Dorsey, Glenn Miller, Ct. Basie, etc. My grandparents were huuuuuge into dancing...and I think I caught the bug from them. LOL - i still go swinging every so often in the Seattle scene, downtown Friday/Sat nights at Seattle Center and around town in some of the clubs. Lindy's getting hot around here now...

Oh i know what i was gonna say..I just recently watched Kristi Yamaguchi perform a flawless, intriguing performance to a musical piece that I have adored for a long time by Peter Gabriel from his Passion albumn. It has middle eastern undertones in the music and it's very haunting and powerful and entrancing. She really used her sense of flair, and drama right down to her facial expressions so perfectly with the piece.
It gave me chills because it was perfect. A perfect tone, a perfect performance, perfect match to the music, and she was right ON! She had GAME that night!!! I felt lucky to have caught it!

Anyone else see this?

Hugz,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 11, 2003 06:02 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Totally off subject I guess...but just got my email from tvminder.com that SB is showing on Starz and Showtime today and tomorrow at varying times. I have it set to clue me in anytime Paul is in a movie. Cool huh.

Hope everyone is having a great day...getting ready to do the treadmill. I listen to the Moulin Rouge CD while I walk (fast) for 30 minutes.

I'll try and keep it cleaned up some for the younger viewers here, but I let it all hang out in front of my own children, they know I'm no saint. And don't believe in them....hahahahahahahahhahaha. The religious sparks in my house are just too much to go into. Best to just keep it to yourself and if someone probes too much...tell them to back off.

Later.

Peace and love to everyone
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 11, 2003 06:07 AMfrom IP: 216.78.34.3

Music I've been listening to: Joey Ramone's solo CD that came out right around the time he died. His cover of "What a Wonderful World" is so kick-ass. If you're ever having a bad day, put that on and try to stand still. I'm also listening to Dire Straits first album. "Down to the Waterline" and "Wild West End" are two of my favorite songs. Also various Van Morrison CDs and Cat Stevens as well.
I'm retro in Chicago. Love to all,
Michelle

Posted by: Michelle on April 11, 2003 08:10 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

I don't know if we're allowed to post websites here, but if you go to www.joeyramone.com you can watch the video for "What a Wonderful World". The boy in the video really looks like my son Chris.
It rocks!

Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on April 11, 2003 08:25 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Eva Cassidy gets played heaps at home, moved over a little for Nora Jones. Got a cd full of great fiddle playing. Still like to play Jewel and Seal. Almost bought Eminem's latest probably will soon. Cant go past Cat Stevens every now and then, Yo Yo Ma ......

Music - Fantastic, Spiritual, Enlightening, Relaxing - a world awaiting our digression.

Posted by: Paul on April 11, 2003 09:10 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Eva Cassidy and Norah Jones are great! It is sad that Eva Cassidy wasn't recognized greatly until after her death. My favorite singer is Josh Groban. His songs really touch my soul, especially a song called "To Where you Are." It is about dealing with the loss of someone. It talks about that person being gone, and how someone longs to see them again. It also says that the person is still with you, in your heart. If you have lost a loved one, it will give you comfort. I learned that after I recently lost my grandmother.

Posted by: Jenny on April 11, 2003 09:47 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187

Good evening Grandma and All! Where have I been? So many posts!

Sherrlyn, couldn't you just explain that it's a very personal aspect of any person's life and that you just want to keep it personal? You certainly wouldn't want anything you said on such a heavy topic, to hurt your job in some way.

enzzzzo, cut it out! I blushed and I can't even read Spanish!

Katalina, you lucky girl! ;) I wish more people would use art just for themselves and their personal exploration of ideas and emotions.

Hi Linda. Tell us what's up. Any new prospects?

Grandma, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't come to the Corner and read Tim's post in which he states "April my ass!" or read that Dhiana considers herself a "music slut". I'm keeping in mind that we have a few young readers, but we have to respect the civil rights of everyone. This site isn't rated for kids so if her parents wanted to keep her away from it all they have to do is set the filter on their computer. We have to have a place where we can be ourselves and there's a bit of the saint as well as the degenerate in all of us (just a little bit!). I'll try to behave though, if you feel strongly about this.

Hey Dhiana. I'm a Rush fan too. 2112?

Katalina, your description of Yamaguchi's performance made me wish I'd seen it. I love the music of Peter Gabriel. That would have been something to see as well as hear.

Tim, thanks for the tip on SB's show times. I checked on buying the dvd the other day and they wanted $30 for it!! If Paul made any money from the sale, I'd buy it in a heart beat. They think they can get more cash now because of Baz' fame, but we know who the real star is! At least the recent interest in SB is introducing more people to Paul's work.

Michelle C, I'll have to check out Joey Ramone's solo CD. I saw the Ramones while attending Ohio University in Athens Ohio. I'll check out the Web site.

My necks getting stiff; it's time to get off the computer.

Good night to some. Good day to others. Love to All,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 11, 2003 09:47 AMfrom IP: 129.71.185.174

Hi all!

Hey Tim, saw Varekai in Quebec City last summer. Loved it!

Katalina cool question. Whenever I have to get work done or work out I crank up Oingo Boingo, my all time favorite. So Oingo's in my headphone cd, and on the carousel is a combination for everyone in the house. Goo goo dolls, Avril, Allison Kraus, and the the Pirates of Penzance set.

Dhiana, it's funny what you said about Loreena McKennitt, my husband had the same reaction when he was a teenager acting on stage with her in Stratford (that leads to a very funny story I would have to get permission from him to post!)

¡Katalina y Enzzzzo, yo soy tan feliz que usted tenga felicidad uno con el otro! ¡El amor!

Paul, can't wait to hear the news soon.

Keeping close to home these days, luckily SARS has not come to Nova Scotia.

PS.. I still love snow! Nothing like waking up to the new and clean world on a white winter morning. It's when it all melts that it gets messy! Call me weird, but Shoveling can be great excercise (withing reason of course). I love winter activities more than summer, no bugs!

Take care all.


Posted by: Michelle-Nova Scotia on April 11, 2003 11:13 AMfrom IP: 142.177.114.83

My list of music likes could go on and on but just a few..Jackson Browne, Sarah Mclachan, AC/DC, Garth Brooks, JoDee Messina, Billie Holiday, Rosemary Clooney, Dawn Aitken, Holly Cole, Paul Gross jees I really could just go on and on. I consider myself a bit of a singer so I like artists who are more about the vocals, (excluding AC/DC ha ha.) I love music.

Posted by: Innussiq on April 11, 2003 11:16 AMfrom IP: 12.172.242.2

well so much for rigid decorum, think it fell apart about the time dhiana, yeah it was you, hit the second paragraph! you gotta agree granny, we sure as heck (i can be good) wouldn't wanta stifle our dhi...nah, the young ones visiting here can handle it!!! right, tif, jen, robin?? We'll learn from you..

that's great news timmer- with sb showing on starz and showtime, m'curio is going to create another hugh buzz...fyi, m'curio - the stations are pay-for-view and very big in the united states...

music, ah, music - like it all, but give me a smokey sax sound anytime...

outta here...

Posted by: bluedog on April 11, 2003 12:08 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30

Someone is going to have to fill me in on the Katalina/Enzzzzo things??? Do we have a romance covertly happening in a corner of the Corner????

Posted by: Paul on April 11, 2003 12:26 PMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Bluedog, I have a cd at home with a duet between a smokey tenor sax and a richly smoked up cello! Fantastic combo. I'll dig it out and let you know the name if you like.

Posted by: Paul on April 11, 2003 12:31 PMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Oh, no, Bluedog, stifle our Dhi, or anyone?? I have no intention!!

I have been known to spew some expletives myself,(I'm married to an ex-Marine) and I love freedom of speech as long as I agree with the topic...don't take Grannie-Auntie too seriously, kids, I don't want to get thrown off the Corner!

Inn, I have a large collection of Rosemary
Clooney CDs. She is one of my favorite lipsync "voices".

Also, Ella Fitzgerald is easy to "do" and her "Songbooks" with the best of Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, and Rodgers and Hart are amazing! Does anyone like Linda Eder or Diane Krall?

We saw Linda Eder in person last year here in Florida, and she is better on her CDs than in person. She kept turning her back to the audience, was dressed like she stepped out of a used clothing store, and I think she forgot to comb her hair..I may be too critical, but the tickets were $50 apiece,(given to us by our children for my birthday) and at the end we felt "we was robbed!"

I understand Diane Krall did a tour in Australia this past year, Paul and Peter. She must have been a hit!

Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 11, 2003 06:44 PMfrom IP: 209.86.187.178

Paul, I do believe a romance is in the ethernet. Maybe Katlina will clue us in after her first encounter.

Good morning Mil. Good morning Ellie. I just had a bowl of strawberry filled mini wheats (couldn't find the appricot ones) and thought of my breakfasts with the two of you. I really enjoyed sitting with you guys at your white table, eating cereal and fruit, watching the white tv. I miss you.

Michelle-NS, I'm with you on the anti-bug sentiment. I'm hoping we had a harsh enough winter to reduce their numbers. In the summer I have to wear glasses to keep them out of my eyes on my doggie walks.

Dhi, you don't have to hide your goddess, you sweet pagean you. I took an "Art of Ancient Civilizations" course to a woman who was well versed on the goddess and her history. According to my teacher, many early societies were matriarchial. Land was handed down through a woman's line. In fact, to become a king one had to marry a queen. Of course men changed all that. Professor Jackson also gave men credit for the first use of a tool as a weapon of destruction. According to her a tribe of men known as the Vandals were the first to use knives and weapons for killing people. Women had only used them for butchering animals and completing other essential tasks in the preperation of food as well as the construction of structures. I confess, we openly male bashed the whole semester! I felt sorry for the few guys in the class (sort of).

Worthy is getting impatient.
Dog out!
Love to All,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 11, 2003 10:24 PMfrom IP: 129.71.188.110

Music-hmmmm-the incomparable Leon Russell-"If the shoe fits"-perfect for a bad mood. Throw in a little "Amazing Rhythm Aces"-The original "Third Rate Romance", singing at the top of my lungs-"there must be 50 ways to leave your lover" and "Cadillac Ranch". Digging out Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina-"Full Sail", and singing the full score of "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat".

Posted by: on April 12, 2003 02:54 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131

Music-hmmmm-the incomparable Leon Russell-"If the shoe fits"-perfect for a bad mood. Throw in a little "Amazing Rhythm Aces"-The original "Third Rate Romance", singing at the top of my lungs-"there must be 50 ways to leave your lover" and "Cadillac Ranch". Digging out Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina-"Full Sail", and singing the full score of "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat".

Posted by: on April 12, 2003 02:54 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131

im writing down all kinds of music now...
cool. everyone has such awesome taste.
I have currently a salsa de cuba CD in .
Caliente! Musica Cubana, (c) 1997 Avalon Music, Toronto, Canada. MMMMMMM delicioso

hold up...i always begin with friendship. LOL
the romantic elements are only in play with the meeting of the minds and hearts and soul expression (when we shared our poetry and philosophies, etc.). but..one never knows how things will play out in person...but we have agreed...FRIENDS!! LOL
hence the hike in the rainforest...and maybe a ferry ride...and maybe some outdoor lures like mountains, Puget Sound, and then maybe a little International fare, nightlife/salsa/clubs...etc. to lure one to come back ...maybe for good..LOL
now onto a more interesting topic...

How bout them Cubs?

(our poor Mariners lost to the Angels...)

BTW: bluedog...do you like Candy Dulfer? I have her Sax a Go Go CD....I was hooked.


Hugz to the PC, (and soon one for D...lol. 6 more hours)
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 12, 2003 03:24 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Not only did I post twice-about Leon Russell, I forgot to put my name on it! The boss was coming in......

Posted by: mary ellen on April 12, 2003 03:35 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131

i forgot who our resident Juicer was...
Peter was that u?
guess what i just finished?
yik bleh, but sorta yummm too. LOL

apple, pineapple, mango puree, kiwi, banana, powdered spirulina, chlorella, broccoli, green tea extract, sponach, barley grass, wheat grass, blue green algae, echinacea extact and odorless garlic. all mixed in one green semi-stinky drink.
LOL

my english/irish/finnish family would be rolling the eyes and turning up noses. LOL

hee hee,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 12, 2003 03:37 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

ME THINKS SUMTHINS UP ON THE ROMANTIC CORNER TOO ONLY I NO SPEAKA SPANISH

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 12, 2003 05:01 AMfrom IP: 216.78.45.150

Romance? Hmmmm. Way to deflect Kat. The Cubs are doing fine. I get the feeling you're trying to change the subject????
I just finished baking my husband's favorite chocolate cake as today is his birthday. The beer is cold and the presents are wrapped, just hanging out here waiting for the man. He's the best.
I guess I'll go play a little french horn while I'm waiting. I'll be checking in periodically to see if there is any news on the romance front.
Was that an energy drink Kat? Friendship??? Right, and I'll only drink one beer tonight. LOL

Love to the Collective Corner,

Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on April 12, 2003 05:25 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Tim: i take the 5th!
nothing doing, presently...
it's all innocente!!! verdadamente!!!

*wink n a grinn (Halo present)*
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 12, 2003 05:41 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Hey Everyone,

It's about 72 degrees and sunny in So. Cal.!!! hahahah Just kidding, more later but had to add this, Whitney, I got SB a couple of years ago on Half.com for about 10$. I checked a couple of months ago for a friend and same price.

Just a thought. You can get a lot of good stuff from half.com and avoid all the bids like on ebay. HOpe you get something wonderful. Especially SB!!!!

LOve to you all....

Margie

PS 14 year old know and say and even do alot more than I did at 14.. My 12 year old suprises me all the time.

Posted by: Margie on April 12, 2003 05:41 AMfrom IP: 66.27.220.210

Lemme see ur curveball Michelle!
BRING it baby! LOL
hahahahahahaha

Kat

Posted by: Katalina on April 12, 2003 05:43 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

i bought SB on ebay for $5.00/shipping was $6.00.
so the total was $11.00. It's still my favorite Baz Luhrmann flick. It's Friday, it's girl flick night at my house.... and it's SB!

Posted by: Mary Ellen on April 12, 2003 05:50 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131

Whit-2112 in the BATHTUB, baby!

Mary Ellen - oooof! Busted! You go girl. minimize, minimize, minimize!

Paul, darling (;-) what's the fiddling CD? I've got such a wide variety of fiddle stuff, (Ashley McIssaac to oh-be-still-my-beatig-heart, Alistair Fraser to the Appalachian CD that Yo-Yo-Ma does with Steve...oh hell...Steve O'Connor?! Yeah. Different. But interesting. Oh, don't forget Natalie McMaster (who, by the way, totally STOLE my gig...*I* used to be the hot 19yr old fiddler with long (ok, permed and brown, not blonde and cutesy with a Novia Scotia accent, but I'm not BITTER or anything!) ringlets. And no, I can't step dance while I play, either...hell I can barely give verbal directions to my bandmates when I play--I always am shaking my foot to end the tune or raising my eyebrows and attempting to shout "ONE MORE!" before changing tunes. What a disaster. ;-)

ANYWAY, Half.com totally rocks, although it's as addictive as eBay. I just had 72 spyware files removed from this pc, and my computer geek-I mean guy (sorry, Paul...)says it's due to all those nasty pop-ups and cookies, etc. LAst I knew--speaking of ancient wonders, Millie,--that "nasty pop-ups" were what you got if you left the Jiffy Pop on the burner too long! But again...I'm quickly approaching "The Hill". Yes, THAT hill, that Paul has now paved the lovely way towards. ;-) heheheheh...I think I am so funny, I know.

Ok, off to meet the fam for a Friday Night Fish Fry! (of COURSE Fridays are BILL's one damned day to do the dishes...but the last three weeks, yes, since we've made that new rule, we seem to find ourselves convieniently meeting after work to complete some errand and "Oh, by the way, aren't you hungry?"

But I really don't mind. Honest.;-) He'll make it up to me...

And on THAT note, CIAO!
Hasta la vista, and cool-cucumbers to you all! Have a good wknd.

Dhiana

Posted by: Dhiana on April 12, 2003 06:06 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

OH MY GOD, MILLIE!

Clarifying here...I TOTALLY DID NOT mean that *YOU* were an ancient wonder!!!!!! Oh, god that sounded horrible! I meant your reverence to the romantic orchestral pieces!!!!

gads...What a spazatron.

Someone, quick, change the subject...maybe she won't notice? (HA!)

Posted by: Dhiana on April 12, 2003 06:09 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Dhi
You crack me up...I love your sense of humour and the way you write. spazatron. That's a new word I'm going to have to infiltrate into my vocabulary...I totally love it. I'm ready to Baz out tonight..Strictly Ballroom and then Moulin Rouge. You know Paul you are getting a lot of attention now that Broadway is humming about SB coming to the Theatre there. When they discuss it they can only think of the original cast members. And you and Tara were the show. Although I heard Baz doesn't want it there until 2005 after he produces some film with Leonardo DeCaprio. (what a waste)

Ah well taxes are filed and it's only the 11th. Money coming back and it's already spent. Typical American.

One of my favorite CD's is from a Cirque show...Allegria. I'm such a showman...

Later
Peace and Love
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 12, 2003 09:09 AMfrom IP: 216.78.42.155

I've only been able to hit and run here lately, so please forgive me for being so scattershot.

Linda, I was really disappointed that you didn't get the design job you wanted. But, as you said, being a finalist in the selection process is something to include in your resume. Surely, something better is right around the corner. Belated (((hugs))) to you.

My dad loved Mantovani, Peggy Lee, Perry Como, Nat King Cole, and other solo artists (not coming to mind right now). He also liked the big bands. He was most fond of ballads. I like all of that, plus Gershwin, Cole Porter, Sondheim, Rachmaninov (ahhhh, Symphony No. 2 — great music for a romantic night!!!), Ralph Vaughn Williams (especially, Fantasia On A Theme by Thomas Tallis). As for more recent artists — Linda Ronstadt, Paul Simon, Billy Joel, James Taylor (outstanding concerts everytime!), Peter Gabriel, Norah Jones. I love Dianna Krall's music, Millie. Very sensuous. Unfortunately, my inlaws saw her in concert and said she lacked personality and had no rapport with the audience. Too bad. Jane Monheit is a wonderful young jazz singer. Jennifer Warnes writes and sings. In a prior post I quoted the theme from her latest CD "The Well" on which she does a great job of the Ray Charles classic "You Don't Know Me." I also have the CD "How Glory Goes" by Audra McDonald who performed on Broadway and elsewhere in the musical "Ragtime." (Also great music!) She has a very powerful voice with great range. Buena Vista Social Club did a CD with Ry Cooder in Cuba. It's very seductive, Paul, and reminds me of your performance in SB. In addition, I could listen over and over again (and often do) to Dave McKenna and Joe Temperly (piano and baritone saxiphone, respectively) on their CD "Sunbeam and Thundercloud." Randy Newman doesn't have much of a voice, but he's written some great scores (Movies: Ragtime; Parenthood) and his solo CDs make you want to tap your toes even as he rips into American culture.

I'm going to have to look into the other recommendations made here. Thanks for sharing.

Katalina, that drink sounds disgusting. Still, if you told me I could lose ten pounds in 2 days by drinking it, I might give it a go.

Hi, Margie. I'm also grateful for the warm weather. Now if those relentless santana winds would just stop blowing for the remainder of the year, I'd be really happy. Silly winds. Fiddledee Dee!!!

Yes, Whitney, we did have a matriarchal society once. Where did we get off track? I saw an article in the business section of the L.A. Times recently with a photo of two women attorneys. The article was about lawyers building cases around an expected decision from the Supreme Court that will hurt consumers. I found myself wondering if women have risen to those few executive positions they do hold because they've learned to lie and cheat like men. I don't mean that all men are like that. The men at this site certainly aren't. But I think too much of industry today tends to be dominated by less than ethical men.

Okay, Timmers, even without my Spanish/English dictionary... I think Enzzzo is saying that Katalina is in his thoughs, making him delirious. Yeh, something in there about "pure love." MmmHmmm, there's a definite flirtation happening here.

Sweet dreams to all!

Diane

Posted by: Diane on April 12, 2003 02:26 PMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102

Good Morning, Whit,

Dhiana...me, an ancient wonder?? Geez, it's almost a compliment, don't sweat it, I love you just the same.

I am glad to learn that some of you also enjoy the music of my generation. So much of it will always be regarded as America's cultural icons, just like the old movies from the great studios like MGM, Warner Brothers, Columbia, and 20th Century Fox.

Last night I hosted a film seminar in another retirement community. Last summer I had shown "Strictly Ballroom" there, and the audience last night recalled that they loved it.

Australia again came up again for I showed a 1955 classic, "Interrupted Melody" the inspiring story of the Australian soprano, Marjorie Lawrence, who, at the height of her career at the Metropolitan Opera, was struck down by polio, which almost ended her career at age 34.

However, she made a comeback, singing from a wheelchair for a time, and even going overseas to entertain the troops during World War 2.

She had to retire from singing, and later taught at Tulane and at the University of Southern Illinois at Carbondale, where a scholarship in her name is given each year to a deserving opera student. She wrote her autobiograpy, "Interrupted Melody" which was made into a film by MGM. This starred Eleanor Parker and Glenn Ford. maybe your grandparents remember it...definitely a one hanky film!

Marjorie was born in Dean's Marsh, and lived on a farm in Walchelsea, won a singing contest in Melbourne, which propelled her to Paris, Monte Carlo, and eventually, to the Metropolitan Opera in New York.

One of the members of the audience said she heard that "Strictly Ballroom" was going to be remade as a movie, but I hadn't heard that. I do know that Baz is planning to bring it to the Broadway stage next. Whatever he does in this stage version, Paul, it will never surpass his original, with you and Tara in it.

Baz is having some problems with his "La Boheme".
Tickets sales have fallen off. There is lots of competition from other La Bohemes mounted by the opera companies in New York...the purists of opera scoff at his version.


Have a good weekend, everyone.

Peace and love,

Grandma

Posted by: Gramdma Millie on April 12, 2003 07:02 PMfrom IP: 209.86.177.189

Wow, I just dropped by for a "quick" read, and now I have to post.
Hi, Grandma! I have an affection for the big band sound, mostly swing, thanks to my parents. You might drool over some of the records I have!
I can appreciate the voices in opera, but not much on listening to them.
Leon Russell wrote the song my screenname is from, sung by my all time favorite, Joe Cocker.
Have been listening to Creed for about 3 years now, and recently into Audioslave.
Mainly rock and roll, and really do not like to listen to women singers, though Evanescence's singer is good. Also love the blues, and btw, what they consider r&b now is not to me at all.
Here's a thought/question for everyone, esp those with a little more mileage on them...
I went thru a period a few years ago where I didn't listen to the radio at all, heard almost nothing current. I think it's because the older you get , the more everything sounds like something you've heard before.
Case in point, I mentioned Audioslave above, and I've heard reviews that said they are too much like the groups the members were in before. But I wan't listening then, so loving it now.
And truthfully, I don't listen to the radio at home, we have it on at work, and I have it on in the car, but at home, listen to cds.
Of course, if you have teens in the house, you usually hear the radio anyway. I'll never forget my older son's look of blank astonishment when I put Ozzie's No More Tears on when he was visiting...my son was visiting, not Ozzie,lmao!
Music . . .and a moment in my fave movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind (sorry, Paul, SB is # 2.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999)
Can anyone who has seen it forget the first time the ships return those famous five notes???
Still sends chills down my back!
hugs, smiles, and let the music play!
Sally

Posted by: deltalady on April 12, 2003 10:47 PMfrom IP: 66.231.2.167

Millie, I forgot about Helen Forrest. My dad loved her music. Woody Allen used her recording (with Harry James) of "I've Heard That Song Before" in the movie Hannah and Her Sisters.

I also forgot to mention Bonnie Raitt, John Hyatt, and the Manhattan Transfer. Everclear is good, too.

Sally, I don't listen to the pop/rock radio stations unless my kids turn it on. The slate is repetitious and I find some of the music really annoying. Yes, I get goosebumps too from that scene in Close Encounters.

Off to work I go...

Diane

Posted by: Diane on April 12, 2003 11:52 PMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102

Great news about the show being aired! Kudos!

I have a feeling this is just the beginning!

Posted by: Michelle on April 13, 2003 12:27 AMfrom IP: 142.177.81.196

What's this about the show? I'm lost...Duh nothing new I guess. And Paul..where the hell is your hair mate? You can't do that. I'm a devoted reader of the board and I'm lost on this news..Is this something you did recently and it didn't get picked up until now? Whatever...it's GREAT news. Your face in front of viewers that's all you need...
Re: Music. I too rarely listen to the radio They talk so damn much it drives me nuts. They think they are so funny and on the way into work or whatever it makes me want to hurl, so I listen to CD's, and I pickup music I like from movies, or from some people I work with. Anyone heard of Tenacious D? If you have you know how sick Timmy can be. Creed is one of my favs as well.

Off to Home Depot. Tiles in the bathroom to repair.

Peace and love to everyone

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 13, 2003 05:21 AMfrom IP: 216.78.40.22

First of all, Paul, sorry about my above number confusion, Close Encounters would be #1, and SB #1.1, or right behind it. Not sure what the 2. etc came from.
Diane, I love Manhattan Transfer, too, such harmony.
Ok, Tim, I see your Tenacious D, and I'll add Motorhead to the pot,lol. Course, I also like Michael Bolton and the Monkees. And Brian Setzer...Off to tape Bon Jovi on the QVC for a friend at work.
hugs and smiles,
Sally

Posted by: deltalady on April 13, 2003 07:56 AMfrom IP: 66.231.2.237

Sally...
Loved the Monkees..Do you like TD? I've never laughed so hard in my life. well so the expression goes..it's pretty raunchy but totally off the wall. Kind of like Margarit Cho Live....
Is she not a hoot?

Guess what I rented tonight guys...I was perusing the shelves and voila...The first 9 1/2 weeks. Paul it looks uh..warm..mmm..maybe the kids shouldn't watch this one.

Well didn't get a damn thing done tonight, took a nap and now I'm up for awhile. Going to watch the movie and see what happens.

later

Peace and love everyone

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 13, 2003 10:41 AMfrom IP: 216.78.39.123

Update on the movies...stayed up til 3am watching movies...couldn't sleep (the nap) Ahh but got up at 8 this morning...

The 1st 9 1/2 Weeks. Damn. That was hot. I liked the curve to it. Felt sorry for her...then thought she was framing you, then they were playing minds games of the elite. Steamy sex scenes but you can't very well not have that in Lousiana. The hottest, stickiest, place in America. Two of your films have taken you there in "bondage." Is there meaning to that Paul? The voodoo sisters..wicked man. Wicked. You know though it appears they copied the theme of that movie in what was it called The Game? with Michael Douglas??? Remember he had everything so his younger brother scheduled him into this morbid surreal world and then at the very end you find out it's a joke. Great movie. I thought Paul did an excellent job in this film.
Then I watched Nora. Great film. But it didn't have the subtitles and that helps a lot with the accents sometimes.
Off to work at 11 today. I visit 4 homes and work on 7 people. Could be a good day $$ wise.
When someone gets a chance explain the new 4/12 post at the home page for me. I'm still lost.

peace and love to everybody

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 13, 2003 10:02 PMfrom IP: 216.78.39.123

Good morning Grandma! I got my tape and I'll be sending captures to you soon. It's just that the weather was so nice yesterday and today looks lovely too (though I haven't been out yet at 11:44a), I may not get anything done on it today. I can hear you telling me not to worry. Am I right?

Diane, I think we got "muscled" out of our leadership position in society. Once they figured out the "miracle of birth" trick we'd been holding over their heads for so long, they naturally ellevated science (that thing which freed them from our priestess), changed the gender in all the religious or spiritual writings, changed the means by which lands were exchanged in society and reduced us to physical slavery and intellectual poverty . At least we get credit for the invention/discovery of ceramics. I agree that all three of the guys on this site seem to be exceptionally kind men with integrity..

Have we learned any questionable male behavior that's allowed us to reach higher? I think we did learn at least one thing from guy tendencies (genetically or societally programed) and that's the desire to avoid conflict. Unfortunately, this often requires the "lie of ommission" so popular among men, and so maddening to women. From my perch atop a 40 year old hill, I've seen that most folks don't usually appreciate or forget when I tell them an unpleasant truth or disagree with their views. Regardless, I continue to speak my mind when it's necessary. However,if it's job related and doesn't involve a close friend who relies on me for that sort of feedback, I think I'm better off keeping my mouth shut and avoiding the conflict. So I learned one trick from them that I know of and it's had an impact on my success in the workplace as well as society.

Sally, in response to your query, when I was in high school music was everything to me. Then the '80s came along and I tuned the radio out for about 10 years or more because I thought pop music sucked. For many people, high school revolves around hormones and music has a way of inciting and enhancing hormone related activity. I imagine that's still one source of music's great appeal to teens. I'm enjoying music again (especially old rock), but not for the same reasons. I don't have a radio in my car, but I listen to oldies stations at home occassionaly. I'm with Tim on the morning radio shows (Billy Bob and dumb shit). They babble on about red neck topics that hold no humor for me.

Tim, what did Paul do to his hair? I'm out of the loop. How was 9.5 weeks? Can you believe I've never seen it?

Paul, I hope you didn't cut your bangs short. That Veronica Lake, peek a boo, one eye covered look is sort of a trademark for you. I guess if you want to break from the past that'd be a good place to start, but it's such a sexy style!

Well, it's way past "dog out" time. Cosmos willing, I'll be back to the Corner soon.
Love,
Whit

p.s. Sally, I'm glad you straightened out the confusion concerning your ranking of SB in your favorites list. I was beginning to wonder!!!

Posted by: Whitney on April 14, 2003 12:03 AMfrom IP: 129.71.185.153

Yes, Whitney, dear, go outside and enjoy the lovely day, but when the day is over, get busy on the tape!!! (just kidding!)

I just heard from our Evelyn. Her conference is finally over, and I'll say no more, for I want her to tell everyone, but here's a hint..I'm walking around with a big smile on my face!!!

It's been a good day all around. Our 7 prisoners of war in Iraq have been released, the all clear has been posted in Israel (they can put away their gas masks, and unseal their rooms) and I think Ellie and I are going to celebrate by going to see "Chicago" for the umpteenth time...gotta see that Queen Latifa again, and again, and....

Have a wonderful day, everyone!

Grandma Mil

Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 14, 2003 01:15 AMfrom IP: 209.86.160.156

Hey, Whit, glad to clear that up,lol, STILL don't know what I was thinking,btw.
Jaws would be after SB, and the Harry Potter movies after that. CE,SB, and Jaws define favorite movies for me, the kind that, even if you have them on tape and DVD, if you run across them channel surfing, you will still park it and watch, esp those certain scenes...
da da da da DA,
" ...and nothing is going to change ..." just before Paul, er I mean Scott, slides across the dancefloor on his knees in a way that turns mine to jelly.
and the scene in Jaws comparing scars . . .
Tim, not too much into rap, mainly cuz of the attitudes of most of it, and hey, I've heard all those words before, don't they know any others,lol?
I have first 9 and a half weeks, but haven't watched it yet...and I know my son won't be around when I do!
I like Margaret Cho, but never heard her live, have to check into tapes/cds she might have out.
Ok, time to get some stuff done . . .
Have a good week, everyone!
hugs and smiles,
Sally

Posted by: deltalady on April 14, 2003 02:35 AMfrom IP: 66.231.2.86

Good afternoon Mil. I'm glad you have some good news concerning your family's safety in Israel. Enjoy Chicago and have a chicken wing (have a free day) for me.

Dhiana, I've heard the Appalachian songs cd with Yo-Yo-Ma and assorted artists. I really loved it!! That's one I'll eventually buy.

Still a little bit of beautiful day left. I just walked Worthy to our river front park. This would've been a perfect day to mountain bike, but I can't find anyone to go with me. I guess it'll just be me and Worthy if I want to go this Spring. All of my friends are too lazy to push a bike up a hill.

Love and Peace,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 14, 2003 05:55 AMfrom IP: 129.71.187.76

Aunt Mil..I know you and Ellie are so very excited and happpy to hear about the safety of your family. We're glad to hear of it too.
Whit..the picture on the home page of this site...Where CAT posts updates etc. ... there's a new update on a show that's going to be shown..and there's a pic of Paul surrounded by two lovely ladies....Gee what a surprise and he has I would say shaved his head. And I agree with you...the tossled longer look it's totally in till your hair falls out. If you've got it flaunt it. Guys come in all the time wanting that piecey tossled look with it just longer than their eyebrows and touching the collar and ratty around the edges...A little pomade and it does the look.

So..Cat..can you explain that article for me? Is itspeaking of only Australian channels? How long ago was this filmed or is it something current? Paul?

Forgot who said earlier they have the 1st 9 1/2 but haven't watched it. 1st..Paul looks perfect as a Wall Street broker. He could sell beachfront property in Nevada. 2nd..the cajun food scene is pretty hot, then there's the "blackout" scene with the voodoo twins....Erotica Exotica. It really is a cool movie. I didn't figure it out before it was over. I usually do if they are too predictable. Which so MANY are these days.
Do watch it...

Later mates

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 14, 2003 08:18 AMfrom IP: 67.35.32.181

thanks m'curio - appreciate you offering to dig that music up, ...and kat...yep, like candy dulfer too...

and now for movies, can't remember when i didn't love the movies...and so after SB, here in no particular order are some of my fav's
Stand By Me, Chinatown, The Maltese Falcon, Scarface, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp Fiction, Midnight Cowboy, Shane, Singin' In the Rain, Silence of the Lambs, Spinal Tap, Jaws, The Godfather, Goodfellas, Saturday Night Fever, LA Confidential. Rainman - movies to be watched over and over and over....

okay timmer, where do we go to see the new picture...i've looked, but am not finding it...guess i need the whole link..been out in the sun all weekend and think i burnt my brain along with the rest of me...stupid, stupid, stupid, and it hurts!!!

off to calamine myself and then hit the hay... stupid, stupid, stupid...and it hurts...

Posted by: bluedog on April 14, 2003 12:50 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30

timmer, never mind, found the picture... did they revive Body and Soul?
good going m'curio......aussie tv stations only, right...damn!!!

leaving again, stupid, stupid......hurts...

Posted by: bluedog on April 14, 2003 01:03 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30

Yep..that was my question bluedog? Hey Paul a little clarification???? Anyways a friend of mine from down there emails me and says she saw a new picture in an article about one of the girls in Body & Soul of Mr Paul. So she's scanning it and sending it over. Don't know if it's the same one or not. Pretty wild..she knows I'm an SB fan. Figures it's Aussie stations only...I'd need one of those Mega dishes in my front yard to pick those channels up. Just got rid of the dish we were using here. Everytime it would cloud up outside the TV would say "searching for satellite signal"

Have a great day you guys.

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 14, 2003 10:17 PMfrom IP: 216.78.38.167

Good afternoon Millie. I should be sending you some still-captures this evening. Ev is giving your "Mama" rave reviews!!

Poor bluedog!! Can you say "sunscreen"? I started avoiding the sun when I was 23. I can't keep my mother out of it, unfortunately. I hope you feel better soon.

On the favorite movie thing, I'll mention a few, but most of the ones that pop into my mind, after SB, are sci-fi: Bladerunner, Gattica, The Thirteenth Floor, Some Place in Time, AI, The Matrix and The Sixth Sense was pretty good too. I like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest as well. They're so many great movies.

Time to get something done.
Love y'all,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 14, 2003 11:20 PMfrom IP: 129.71.188.159

Paul...Congrats on the new opportunity! Will we in the US be able to access this program either via TV or internet? Would like to check out your body and soul advise. Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 14, 2003 11:40 PMfrom IP: 161.225.1.12

Bluedog - you don't have to worry about offending me, I'm 38 and have heard it all from my brother.
Since everyone is talking music and movies (my two favorite subjects) I'll pipe in that growing up my favorite music to listen to was Judy Garland. I've always had great sympathy for her pains in life and remember crying for her after listening to her songs. I also like Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme. Now I usually lisen to Christian music but love the soundtracks from Chicago, Moulin Rouge and Miss Saigon. As for movies give me an old classic and I'm happy. I love musicals like Singing In The Rain, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, etc along with Bette Davis movies like Now, Voyager and All About Eve.

Posted by: Robin on April 15, 2003 01:31 AMfrom IP: 65.239.127.216

Paul,
At the risk of annoying you with another personal question I have to ask you - Was the article just posted on this website right that you are into witchcraft and wicca?
I only ask because I'm interested in understanding you.
Robin

Posted by: Robin on April 15, 2003 01:33 AMfrom IP: 65.239.127.216

To appease grandma: I'm glad you had a smile on your face yesterday because of what I did. I on the other hand spent most of the day yesterday crying, partly from sheer exhaustion, but mostly in intense pain and anger because of the emotional, verbal and other abuse I had to put up with from some #@&*%$, to put this politely, unpleasant, arrogant, rude, inconsiderate, self-centered [mentally throwing in at least 20 really nasty adjectives] people. It will take a while to heal from that hurt, but I will get there. I mentally annihilated them, along Dhiana's lines of "gone, gone ... poof", which helped me break the power they tried to hold over me. Putting up with this kind of behavior from supposed big wigs in my profession was tough, esp. because I am in the vulnerable position of being the job seeker and had no room to screw up. So in many ways that still dominates in my mind and emotions and has pushed the amazing stuff into the background. It will sink in eventually, this conference that I did pretty much every possible aspect of organization for, is one of the four most prestigious academic conferences globally in my field and it went of without any glitches and problems (except for said persons) and in my own presentation, I pretty much kicked ass. (So I've been told). It was a bit unnerving, as 4 of my 5 examining committee members (of my final oral exam next month) were in attendance but even I am pleased with my own presentation. Enough said, grandma?

The only thing that brought a smile to my face was watching the Follies 2003 tape, it's even more spectacular than I imagined it and I did imagine it to be VERY spectacular. Thanks Grandma for sending it to me and your lipsyncing to "Momma" is incredible. Sorry guys, don't mean to brag about it, I really wish you could see the whole show...

I missed you guys last week, it would have been much more fun hanging out with you rather than the #@!&* of my field. It was a learning experience as to how I don't want to be professionally and personally and who I don't want to become. Grateful? perhaps, but definitely resenting the shit that came with it.

Hope you are all well.
Love,
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on April 15, 2003 07:31 AMfrom IP: 128.101.249.253

Paul, I know people that are wiccan, but I don't fully understand what they believe. What do you believe will happen to your body/soul when you die?
Onto another question...I hear people say that they aren't afraid to die. Is it possible to not be afraid to die? Isn't it just human nature to have that fear? People always fear that they won't accomplish all they want to in life. How can they not be afraid to die when they are afraid that they won't fulfill everything? I think that a person lies to themself saying that they are not afraid to die because the fear is actually overpowering. They don't want to accept the reality of death. Death is a scary thing.

If this doesn't make sense, please tell me so I can try to explain better. I tend to go overboard on saying things that make sense to me, but not to anyone else.:)

Posted by: Jenny on April 15, 2003 08:38 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187

"Momma" Millie...After seeing the Follies tape, this needs to be your new handle. The spin you put on that number was marvelous, darling! The entire show was lovely to watch and kudos to you for all your hard work. It touched so many hearts - those participating, those watching, and those of us watching twice removed. Rock on, lady!

Evelyn...So sorry you had such a rough time. Hope things will come right for you.

Mellow music...Nora Jones, #1 new favorite - those haunting lyrics and melodies. #1 old favorite - Harry Connick Jr.

Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 15, 2003 10:43 AMfrom IP: 161.225.1.12

Jenny if you don't mind I'd like to theorize with you a moment.
For the first 36 years of my life I was absolutely terrified of passing on. I wouldn't make it to the top, I'd leave before my parents, and my mother would be devastated beyond comprehension. I still had so much I wanted to do, yet a lot of it wasn't really getting done.
THEN, 37. My mom died. The Tim I was up until 36 was built on a very strong base (my mom) and then branches that I grew on my own, my wife, my kids, my feeling of self, my religion, my education, what's right, what's wrong you name it. When mom died...all my limbs fell off. First I had to look at her in the hospital lying there dead. She wasn't crying. She wasn't in any pain. I had whispered in her ear before she died that I loved her and she would always be in my heart. At that point, I became numb. And you know what it's still not the same. Death is just a natural part of living. For some it comes early and others later. The clock never stops ticking. You must move on. I had to go back and pick up all my limbs and put them in some kind of order. I had to build my own base. Which is partly why I'm so fucked up now. I haven't done a great job rebuilding. I've questioned everything I ever knew about everything. I changed careers. I some very regrettable things to my marriage. But I have learned a few valuable lessons. 1. Live each day. Try as hard as you can to feel the moments, focus on the good parts and let the bad shit roll off your back. 2. Don't assume others moods. If someone comes in and attacks you with their nasty mood swap it out with sugar right back. Don't let their bad crap take over your good day. Easier said than done, but if you try to remember it it really works. 3. Just be you. You are an individual that deserves the best of everything just like anyone else in the world. Dream big. Make a base for yourself that doesn't crumble easy. Become a strong person. Focus on being the best person that you can be without losing your identity. This is YOUR BASE. Your parents and other factors in your life then become more like legs on a spider. You can still be strong when you lose one. Clarify one thing here. It'll still hurt like hell. And you may not mend without some scarring. And it takes time. I'm not in anyway diminishing the toll death can take on family members. It's just that if you're a really strong person, when that happens to you, You don't lose yourself. And I think you'll find that when you have a strong sense of self. That being said, if you have a strong sense of self, you'll probably find that you equate life with like a really great roller coaster ride. It goes up and down and around and spins and your screaming and having a blast and although it is wonderful...it does end. Nothing really to be scared of, just enjoy the ride. Like me I look back on some of those great hills where I could have thrown my hands in the air and let myself fly up out of the seat and scream from the thrill but I sat white knuckled in. Now I can't go back to that hill. I can only hope there's another one ahead. And I can tell you now that if there is, my hands will be in the air and I'll be screaming at the top of my lungs for the thrill of it all. You can't see the whole ride you just have to feel it...kind of like Space Mountain That's all you can do.

Evelyn...sorry about those (*&(&^%#$^%^^*&^*^& heads. That's why I got out of corporate.

Later mates

Peace and Love

Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 15, 2003 10:47 AMfrom IP: 216.78.45.1

Dear Ones,

I have decided to take Linda's advice and call myself Momma Mil...just like Momma Morton from "Chicago"...well, not quite, but I have borrowed her voice. You are all the "chickies in my pen", for "I'm the biggest mother...hen." (and I had better get the weight off, or Whit will disown me.)

Whit is in the process of putting scenes from the Follies tape on the site, where the stills are. I am already thinking of the next Follies...in 2 years!

Timbo, your advice to Jenny was so poignant and true. All I can add at my age is, "easy does it, and one day at a time." Enjoy the moment, yes, continue to plan for the future, and, in these uncertain times, live with a certain amount of caution each day.

It is the start of Passover this evening, and Easter on the weekend. I take this opportunity to wish you all good health, peace, and love.

Momma

Posted by: MAMMA MIL on April 15, 2003 06:16 PMfrom IP: 209.86.185.18

paul, sorry i missed your birthday wishes. i'm glad you were born.

i've been enjoying the inundation of strictly ballroom and bogo pogo(sp?) showings on Showtime this month. looking forward to Joseph on A&E this week, too.

found out last week that mom's hep c treatments aren't working. she had a second opinion in dallas this week, and he concurred, but said she should still live another 50 years, so it isn't so much bad news. she will stay on treatments two more months then soon after i'm hoping all those nasty side effects will dissapate and things will be back to "normal."

i haven't read the thread above me. i miss you all. i will check back soon. take care everyone.

peace.

Posted by: texas on April 16, 2003 12:34 AMfrom IP: 208.47.173.12

well texas, that's sorta good news...i remember when you posted about going to visit your mother during her illness - not sure why i remember, think you were taking your dog and some good music along ...brought back some good cross country memories....

yep, i'm glad m'curio was born too!! SB probably would have been made anyway, but it never would have been what it is without m'curio....and from this site, think he's a pretty fine fellow all way around..

feeling better, burn not so bad after all, whine still there though...see ya all...


outta here...

Posted by: bluedog on April 16, 2003 02:24 AMfrom IP: 168.56.106.198

Don't give up hope texas. They just completed the map of the human genome. I imagine wonderful brekthroughs will occur in every branch of medical science. 50 years is a long time. I haven't read any posts above yours, but as I have some catching up to do, I didn't want to wait before posting to you.

Texas, I'm glad your burn is better. I'll refrain from my usual lecture on the cummulative effects sun exposure. You sound like you're a big girl and a smart one.

Good afternoon Millie! I have to teach in a few hours so, though I'll have time to read some previous posts, I probably won't get to respond until after work. I hope you're having a great day. The weather in WV is perfect!!!

Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on April 16, 2003 03:19 AMfrom IP: 129.71.185.242

hey to the PC

hi Mamma Mil!
Peace Inn
awww Evelyn...i totally relate w/your situation.
yikes.
Music on today: Great Women of Jazz/Songs of Heritage; 2002 Green Hill Productions
Fave song on CD: Black Coffee by Vanessa Rubin
Song that made me cry: I Understand by Lena Horne.

:) wink and a grinn & a big (((((Hug)))))
to all at PC today ( i need a little one too..sniff)

Hugz,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 16, 2003 03:21 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Big Hug to Katalina...

and to everyone at PC..

Not a smashing day for me here in Jawja. Hot..loved that..finally. But an emotional drain. Enough already. Hey Paul have a beer for me. And everone else drink your favorite and click it for me. A really good martini or two..MMMM

Later mates

peace and love

Timbo

And a happy passover to you mamma mil (god I love that..sounds so flappish)

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 16, 2003 06:24 AMfrom IP: 216.78.46.74

thanks whit, bluedog. damn i love this board.

Posted by: texas on April 16, 2003 06:25 AMfrom IP: 208.47.173.12

thx Tim
(((((hug))))) back

clink clink goes my snifter filled w/a Beautiful
(that yummy cognac and liqueur mix)mmmmmmm

Hey Mamma Mil we have a healthfood store up my way called MannaMills...LOL
I was wondrin why your new screen nm felt familiar. I live at that store...great cereals and vitamins and other crunchy stuff..LOL (yes, i do own Birkenstocks...haven't worn em for while tho..)

texas: i empathize w/yer sunburn pain. I did something stupid a week ago. after my workout in my little apt gym...i used the tan bed. *gulp*
i fell asleep for 30 min. when i got out..i looked ok, felt ok...but 25 min later and on and on and on...the severe burn (all over) came to the surface. I was irradiating...and turned this horrible dark (glow in the dark) red.
It was horrible. I was in such pain that nothing could touch the skin..I almost went to hospital it felt so bad. I was so scared to put anything on it I just suffered for 24 hrs...then got brave and put Noxema on and it took care of it.
It took 4 days for pain to go away and a week and half to fully peel and heal. I will not be repeating this again in any form whatsoever...*rolling eyes* And, I will be doing a skin mapping to watch for skin cancer. Yikes.
Stupid stupid stupid!

So hope you're healing too my dear.
Sending aloe and lanolin and calendula thoughts your way!!!

:) Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 16, 2003 07:17 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

i just realized my timeframe was off..it happened almost a week and half ago..and i'm almost done healing..
lol

Posted by: katalina on April 16, 2003 07:27 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Texas, glad you are back, missed you too. Best wishes for your Mum. Keep a positive mind on that one and she too. It helps!

Bluedog, sorry about your sun burn. I hate those things ... Hope it doesn't hurt too badly anymore.

Grandma, I love your new name, but I'm not sure if I'll brake the habit of calling you 'grandma'. Happy Passover (that is if one says such a thing at this time)

Katalina, here's a hug back to you. Why are you sniffing?

What's up Timbo that is emotionally draining you? Here's a big hug to you and I will click a beer for you, i.e. I'm going to drink it ALL!!! by myself!! with my landlady at a barbecue tonight. We worked hard trying to get the new fridge into my apartment. Narrow hallway with a turn in it, very weird angle. Not only did we have to take the doors out, but we had to pull the wooden frame out to create enough space to get the damn thing around the corner. An electric saw was involved ... :-) Not what either one of us expected, but we got the darn thing into place after a few hours. The door has yet to be re-assembled. While we were at it we also fixed some wholes in the wall behind the fridge. Don't anyone laugh at our effort, the guys gave up and told us we would never get that thing into place. We proved them wrong :-)
By the way, Tim, very good response to Jenny. I wish you could have given that to me a few days ago before this conference, but even in hindsight it makes a lot of sense and is helpful to me. Thanks!

Hi Whit, how did teaching go? How's Worthy?

How's everyone else doing? Hope you are doing well, and here's a hug to each and everyone. ((((((( HUG )))))))

Posted by: Evelyn on April 16, 2003 07:33 AMfrom IP: 128.101.250.16

To my dear sunburnt friends..IT'S NOT WORTH IT! Stay away from the tanning beds..protect your skin from the sun. At the very least brown now, means leather later. The worst could mean skin cancer. Take care of yourselves!
Timbo cheers to you! Bailey's Irish Cream for me!
The weather the last few days has just been to great to ignore so I'm sorry to leave you all behind for a little bit, but I'm so happy to be warm.
Mama Mil I like it! Texas you hang in there, it can't rain all the time.
Kat, I'm expecting an email soon *hint hint*. Just remember I have spare crabapples!
Hey Whit and bluedog. Oh, Peter where art thou?
and of course Dearest Paul..whazz up? I'm not shoveling snow for the dog anymore, just picking up after her!
I wonder where our host has been? Hello to Cat.
Peace to all, going to go and enjoy the evening breeze.

Posted by: Innussiq on April 16, 2003 09:32 AMfrom IP: 65.206.79.209

Bluedog - when we used to get sunburnt - every weekend down the beach!!!! - my Mum used to douse us in viniger to take the sting out. I dont know if it worked and in fact I never liked it but my brothers did. They put viniger on their chips (fry's) I cant think of anything worse. Me I like to douse my chips in tabasco!!

Tim, spot on - life is a roller coaster ride and as I have said before the choice is to enjoy or to not enjoy - throw your arms up and holler with joy or to grip on with the white death knuckles. Thank the powers that be that you have learnt something along the way - many people seem not to!! Take pride in the fact you are living life and not going through the motions till death do us part.

If you havent worked it out yet Body and Soul has just started showing on cable here in Australia. The photo on the article on the .net site is one taken about a year ago after I shaved my head! Unfortunately the show is only for cable here in Aus but you necever know it may make it over to USA at some stage.

Jenny, from my understanding Wiccan's believe in the spirit of mother earth, of nature and honour that through rituals, meditation and celebration. I am not a Wiccan by the way.

As far as being afraid to die goes and what I believe happens to the body.... the body goes back to the dust. The spirit or the soul continues on this journey that it is currently on but in a different form. Death is but the beginning of another journey - it is another form of change that we as humans must accept and embrace. When we think of death we think of the pain that death visits upon those that are left behind. I do not wish to die any time soon, I have much yet to do but if I must go, I hope to walk that path not with fear but with the knowledge that another journey is to begin and to embrace that with the same love and joy I have embraced this current one.

Robin I love Seven Brides for Seven Brotheres!!

Posted by: Paul on April 16, 2003 10:02 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Dearest Chickies (in my pen)...

Glad you like my new screen name...thanks, Linda!

I must act like a mother hen and tell you all to stay out of the sun this summer! Suntanned skin is already damaged skin, a dermatologist told me years ago.

The sun ages the skin, and wrinkles it prematurely, and also promotes all kinds of serious skin conditions!

There, I said it and I'm glad!

Good health, peace and love,

Momma

Posted by: MOMMA MIL on April 16, 2003 10:16 AMfrom IP: 209.86.183.241

Hello my friends. Hugs and drinks all around, on me. I'd like to put my order in for a cold beer and a big squeeze. It's been one of those days.

I wanted to get in on the favorite movie thread, so here goes: Rear Window, 12 Angry Men, To Sir With Love, Moonstruck, The Shawshank Redemption, Billy Elliot. Oh, and The Princess Bride. Who could forget, "Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to DIE!"

I know there are others, but my brain isn't retrieving data at an optimum rate tonight. Of course SB is a given. How could it not be when "the soulful eyed one" is radiating that energy of his right into your heart.

Love from Chicago out to the Collective Corner,
Michelle

Posted by: Michelle on April 16, 2003 10:37 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Hello to everyone here at the corner!
(Said as i come shamefully crawling back. . .)
It's been so very very very long, I'm not sure where to begin, but you've all been in my thoughts, and I've been spending far too much time this evening catching up on posts and feeling nostalgic.
New York is wonderful. School is wonderful. I've been keeping extremely busy studying dance quite intensely over last two semesters, and whenever things get tough, I flip my mind back to SB and keep on trying. Paul, congratulations on being offered the role in Full Monty, If you take it or if you don't- either way you now have more proof that others believe in you as much as I know we all do.
As far as being resentful and thankful at the same time- it's natural sometimes. With me, I often find myself being resentful at the fact that I'm at all discontented, when I know that I am so blessed with the circumstances. Rest assured, if you keep on fighting, things will turn your way. You are too special a person for them to not.
Hope this finds you all happy, healthy, and contented.
Love,
Megan

Posted by: Megan on April 16, 2003 11:12 AMfrom IP: 162.84.202.250

Momma Mil
You are so right...from one that grew up on the beach with white skin that didn't tan well listen to me. one more time listen to me. I burned every year. I went sailing as teenager with my friends, of course they all glowed nice and bronze and I looked like a lobster. In 1998 the dermatologist starting removing those nasty little things you don't want. And to remove something the size of a pin head they cut out a chunk about 1 inch by a 1/2 inch. The scar is a 1000 times bigger. I lather up and stay the hell out of it. Or at least cover up. The next burn I get will be when they cremate my fat ass...

Seriously people...that little glow is not,,,NOT worth it.

love and peace mates

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 16, 2003 07:18 PMfrom IP: 216.78.41.97

(Gee, I almost started typing Momma Mia..love those ABBAS!)

Timbo, thanks for supporting my view. I would also caution all the mothers that have sun loving children, to be diligent and demand that they not over do it and get sunburned. Sunburn in childhood can lead to terrible skin disorders in adulthood...I know, I was a victim of melanoma 12 years ago.

It was caught in the early stages, and I've had no reoccurance, and am checked by a dermatologist every 4 months, my children every year as a precaution.

Timbo, hope your experience will also help others..stay well, we love you!

Momma Mil

Posted by: MOMMA MIL on April 16, 2003 08:09 PMfrom IP: 209.86.189.46

Michelle...This is freaky - I just re-watched Princess Bride last night! It is one of my all-time favorites.

Good day to the Corner, Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 16, 2003 08:31 PMfrom IP: 216.93.26.239

okay, think i gotta it now!! - Stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen!!! Stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen!!! Stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen!!! Did use the 'screen, but not enough or frequently enough....and thanks for the corner's support, but vinegar? Didn't try that, skin was so hot, thought i might get pickled or something!!!!

later all...


Posted by: bluedog on April 16, 2003 10:50 PMfrom IP: 168.56.106.198

Mamma Mil/Mamma Mia: lesson learned, and learned well...don't worry - I've been scared straight -- outta the sun, tan beds and what have u. This was a first attempt in many many many yrs...so I am hopeful that I'm still ok (but am gonna get checked). I most certainly Will be staying lathered up in SPF 30+++++ or Bullfrog for water/sun sport this summer for sure now.
I'm looking for a big floppy hat now. LOL

Paul: !!!!!!! Another Tabasco lover!!!!
Wiiiiihoooooooooo! I smother this delectable delight all over everything in sight. Huevos rancheros, chips, hashbrowns, everything..mmmmmmm
I'm the only spice addict in my family. Well, me and my brother in law. Everyone thinks the two of us are out of our heads...everyone else is reaching for the ice water while we tackle the ginger, wasabe, El Tapato, Pico de Gallo, and of course use Tabasco like there's no tomorrow.LOL

(((((hugz))))) and kix to the PC
luv from Latteland,

Katalina

Peace Inn. I'll send that email soon dear.
Im not in a crabapple tossin mood yet...am working up to that...give me a day or two...

Hiya Evelyn. why was i sniffing? cuz i had a ruddy dose...snoof, snarf, sniff.

Michelle: LOVE love love Princess Bride and Inigo Montoya..ooooooh gooooood..that was the best line!
I also love the rhyming scenes...LOLOLOLOL


Posted by: Katalina on April 16, 2003 11:15 PMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

that was weird..my post got cut in two.LOL
my sign off was put in the middle..bizzarro!

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 16, 2003 11:17 PMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Momma Mil, have you seen Mamma Mia? We saw it in it's pre-Broadway run here and loved it. Everyone was up on their feet by the end of the show.
Linda and Kat, glad to hear you like Princess Bride. We saw Mandy Patinkin in concert a few years ago, and as he was leaving the stage for the last time, he ran back to the microphone and blurted out his Inigo Montoya line. He is a great performer.
Forgot to mention that I love all of Christopher Guest's films. Spinal Tap, Waiting For Guffman, and Best in Show. We're going to see the new one tomorrow night. I could watch Eugene Levy read the phone book, he cracks me up.

Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on April 17, 2003 12:14 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Dear Michelle/Chicago...(Love that movie!)

Yes, Momma Mia was here in Florida last year, but for some reason I can't remember (a senior moment) we missed seeing it.

However, I ran out and bought the DVD of ABBA.
It is a compilation of their MTV-type performances from the 1970s...really great!

All the songs from MM are on it, but my favorite is "Dancing Queen" for that reminds me of "Fran" dancing in the arms of you-know-who!

I was doing a lot of laughin' with the previous posts..what a joy you all are, once you get going..however, watch out for that Tabasco sauce!

Love,

Momma Mil

Posted by: MOMMA MIL on April 17, 2003 05:00 AMfrom IP: 209.86.181.91

Innussiq: I'm still here, ...somewhere. Just too too damn busy. I'm a little lost as to what's been happening here at PC, but I did manage to skim and pick up a little.

Evelyn: I'm sorry for your recent bad experience. Bullies come in all forms and are found in all places. There's a load of incomplete human beings out there ready and waiting to make themselves feel better by trying to undermine the happiness of others. They will always do that. It is their nature. They seldom change, except to become worse.
I have had similar experiences with corporate bullies. I think the correct term is psychopath.
No regard for social rules or decency, no remorse.
On one occassion, having left a company after 16 years of slaving my guts out way beyond the call, two individuals took it upon themselves to tell some very damaging lies about me. Fortunately, it back fired, and they shot themselves in the feet (excuse cliches). Their claims were complete lies, totally without foundation. Further, there was no logical reason for what they had done. They had done this completely out of spite. This was a genuine and obvious baring of their own inadequacies.
It had no real impact on me.
Expect the worse from some people. It is truly ingrained in their nature to cause others pain, for no reason that makes any sense to lovely, decent people like yourself.
People with sociopathic prsonalities tend to gravitate towards positions of perceived power. They use it to manipulate and abuse others.
Expect that these people will be capable of anything, and usually for no good reason.
Their callous actions are in no way a reflection upon yourself.
You are the best person to assess the quality of your work. You know how truly good it was. No other opinion is of greater value or truer worth.
I hope you can quickly turn your back on this crap.
One thing that I always remind myself of: What doesn't kill me makes me stronger.

Momma Mill: I checked out the photos of "The Follies"!!...UNBELIEVABLE!!!
You are a wonderfully talented lady.

Paul, Saw the article re Body & Soul in the TV guide. Great news. You did a teriffic job of that show. You are very credible in the part and your personality suits it well.
Personally, I still think that a long term fitness overhaul programe for 30-40 somethings (heavy on the lifestyle/motivation factor) would be a good seller. I remember you half-ways hinting that you might consider starting the BLF programme.
Perhaps the show could track the regular progress of an individual undertaking some similar style of fitness make-over.
Have you ever considered being a motivational speaker/teacher, aimed at balance lifestyle/health/spiritual/physical aspects? You are ideally suited.
Again, congratulations. Terrific news. Enjoy it.

Best wishes to all.

Peter.

Posted by: Peter on April 17, 2003 05:41 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8

thoughts of a pickled bluedog....have me slightly grinning. but i shouldn't speak so fast...as i had my own little escapade...holding out for the noxeema.lol

i was actually wracking my brain the night i was burned trying to remember what home remedy was suggested...and apple cider vinegar did cross my mind briefly..but i too couldn't fathom a painless result post-application. i was afraid of further tortures and strange multi-hued/layered colors to possibly come...eeeeewwwwwwwwww
so i held off.LOL

well...this yr of the Dragon gal learned about her
rejuvinating sides after a week of molting, that's for sure!

hee hee, yik bleh....


Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 17, 2003 06:18 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124

Peter! Stop all that working and come play with us! You missed the drinks and hugs we were passing out last night, but I've always got cold beer and a hug for our friend who seems to ALWAYS be flat out like a lizard drinking. Hope all is well with you.
My son is learning to play a Led Zeppelin song on guitar, and I am being really patient. I had a boyfriend who was always trying to explain the deeper meaning of Zep songs to me, which put me off Zep and him. Whole Lotta Love my ass. Its funny how certain songs can take you right back in time.
The Cubs won today! We're goin all the way this year baby! It's April, I have all season to get pessimistic.
Love from Chicago,
Michelle

Posted by: Michelle on April 17, 2003 08:00 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140

Katalina, my darling, slightly burned Chickie,

Momma found these hints for your sunburn.

1) Take aspirin for the pain.
2) Apply cool, wet compresses.
3) Soak in a tub filled with cool water with a cup of white vinegar added.
4) Apply aloe to burned areas.
5) See your doctor if you continue to have
pain. Hope these hints help you!

People of my generation stupidly put all sort of salves on burns, when the best first treatment is cool, even cold water for first treatment of burns!

Peter, you and Paul are so wonderfully astute in your advice on this Corner. That you choose to share your own experiences for the benefit of others is indeed a "mitzvah" (a blessed deed.) "You'd be so easy to love...."

I'm glad you liked the Follies site...it is the brainchild of Evelyn and Whit..all I did was produce and direct the Follies, and was fortunate to have Whit here for one performance, where she took a lot of the pictures! More, from the tape itself, will be forthcoming in the future, plus pictures of our eldest daughter and her large family in Israel. Stay tuned!

Everyone, Ellie and I wish you all a lovely Passover and Easter, with good health, peace and love.

Momma

Posted by: MOMMA MIL on April 17, 2003 08:05 AMfrom IP: 209.86.179.61

Michelle: I'll do my darndest! Thanks for the cold beer and hugs alike. Trouble is, it's only 10:15 am and I still have hours of work to do. Don't wanna get too pissed on beer or my work could go a little wonky!
Led Zepelin huh!... lucky girl! I suppose Bach just wouldn't cut it, under the circumstances.
You're too right - I need more play.

Hey Momma Mil: Thankyou for your kindness.
But, hang on!... "all I did was produce and direct the Follies"... isn't that akin to saying "all I did was make the whole thing happen"?!! Here's a great big slap on the back for you! Where would your friends be without all your good work? You are an inspiration.

Out for now.

Pete

Posted by: Peter on April 17, 2003 08:24 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8

Peter, The Body and Soul being picked up for the lifestyle channel is great news but it is not shooting new shows just picking up the series as shot already. They put them in a different order but unfortuneately they are not doing new stuff - so while your idea is good I cannot impliment it at the moment. Sadly reruns dont attract a payment to me - just the usual feel good pat on the back good job good show - type of adulation. It would be great if it got picked up again to shoot a new series it was a great show and rated really well and by no means had it come close to touching on 10% of what is out there in relation to Body and Soul stuff! With luck it may get to the lifestyle channel in USA. You guys could write to the channel and request it?

Posted by: Paul on April 17, 2003 08:31 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221

Paul, That's a shocker!
The TV mag I picked up led me to believe that there was a new series being produced, especially for Foxtel.
I'm really sorry.
I can't understand why Channel 9 didn't go with more episodes of the show. It was certainly (in my opinion) one of the more relevant of the "lifestyle" programs, having more appeal to me personally than the rest put together. Am I in the minority? I understood that the ratings were pretty good.
Doesn't Mr Packer subscribe to health, wellbeing and fitness (DON'T ANSWER!).

I can see that this would be another frustration for you.

There has to be a market for a lifestyle program providing sensible advice on accessible and manageable fitness, health & leisure activities.
Not rediculously ripped and fabulous young bodies, but average, normal people having a go at improving their overall fitness and wellbeing, and having fun in the process.
Activities such as Triathlon and masters touch football, hockey etc attract a big following, but don't have a lot of media exposure.
There's a host of 30's, 40's & 50's age groupers out there who could inpire most to get off their butts to have a go.
And then there's always individual fitness pursuits and programs for those who don't have a lot of time, or prefer to exercise in a more private environment.
I can perceive a huge void there, ready to be filled. I'll give it some critical thought and send a request to Channel 9.
God knows what good it will do, but someone has to start it. We can only try. I'll include some suggestions for some presenters for the show.
A mix of sporting personalities and those from other arts/fitness areas (such as yourself, of course!) would be good. People like Steve Moneghetti are involved with a host of programs aimed at helping the ordinary bloke/girl to have a go at realiseing their dreams. There must be something in that.
I perceive a huge opportunity for a broad, holistic approach.
Time to think.

Peter

Posted by: Peter on April 17, 2003 09:50 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8

Hello Corner!
Kat, I'll be checking my email..I hope you are ok.
Went to see "Phone Booth" today. It was very good,really gets the tension up. I'll be searching for a mailing address for Lifestyle, I want to see Body and Soul.
Ok, having dispensed with the greetings I have a bit of a pet peeve to get off my chest. I got another email from a friend today about how we shouldn't waste time(Peter dear are you getting this?) stop and smell the roses..ect. All of that is true however as the wife of a procrastinator I would like to point out that the garbage still needs to be taken out, the dishes and clothes washed, the bills mailed..well you get the idea. I think they should change the saying to Pause and smell the roses, cuz the work still has to get done.
Thanks for listening.
Peace

Posted by: Innussiq on April 17, 2003 10:01 AMfrom IP: 12.172.242.229

Peace Inn baby. Hey guess what? I forgot your PM.
can u take my link here and PM me back? and I'll fill ya in. *sigh* Im ok. thx. still smiling.

Thx Momma!! yes this silly burned chicklet will take much better precautions so there will Not be a next time...i want to keep my NWest skin. It's taken a little over a week, but im almost back to normal. I got lucky..._this_ time.

I like Paul's idea of writing to the station. Maybe a petition can be arranged? Or an address of who we can write to/contact can be posted here?
Just a thought?...

A very Happy Passover, Easter, Spring to all at PC.

BTW: Anyone here from the States seen that Toys R Us Easter commercial yet (with the billions and gazillions of little white baby bunnies surrounding the big Giraffe (who's rolling his eyes) while they're all singing "Here Comes Peter Cottontail" in lollipop guild voices?)LOLOLOLOL


And has anyone seen the cartoon of the two chocolate easter bunnies (one is saying his butt hurts (cuz there's been a big bite eaten there) and the other one is asking "what?" cuz his two ears have been nibbled off...LOL

(((((hugz))))))
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on April 17, 2003 10:40 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101

Paul...Tell us who needs to be contacted on this side of the world to get your series Body and Soul picked up here. Momma Mil will assemble the troops. Just need to know where to direct the effort.

Linda

Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 17, 2003 11:04 AMfrom IP: 216.93.117.58

I agree Paul..tell us who to contact there and we'll get together a petition to send to them and to Lifestle television here to maybe get it put on here. There is definitely a market for that. Although someone suggested earlier that they used normal 30 to 50 people...something tells me you Paul and your co anchors are not in the normal category of fitness even if you have gained a couple of pounds.

Later mates..falling asleep at the computer. It's been a long day from hell. Maybe tomorrow will have a little less fire to it.

Peace and love mates

Timbo

Posted by: Tim Hord on April 17, 2003 11:34 AMfrom IP: 216.78.39.95

Peter, thank you for your feedback and advice. I'll have to contemplate that a bit more, but if I do this now, I'll be late for work... wish I could take the day off... I should, I have more than enough overtime piled up.

Posted by: Evelyn on April 17, 2003 09:20 PMfrom IP: 128.101.253.84

I know, I know, there's another thread. But I had a couple of things here:

Kat - ((hugs))for ALL that ails ya...

bluedog -I know, I know, I said "slut", I just can't help it. Here's hoping that one of my directives SOME year in the future will be to cut out my potty mouth, but so far, my four yr old hasn't dropped an "F"-bomb yet, so all's good.

Robin - I studied with a Wiccan priestess for several years and Paul's got the concepts in the right light, although I don't call myself a "Wiccan" truly, as I incorporate some Celtic ideals and Native American medicine into my work.(Funny, one night we were gathering at a new girl's house, and we heard her mom through the open door calling inside to her daughter, "Dear, there are 4 Wiccas in the backyard!" Too funny!

I do not fear death. To fear it is selfish. (IMHO)

Ok, work work work...
Hugs and such,
Dhi

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