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Wednesday, 02 April
Gratitude?
Is it possible to be grateful for an opportunity and yet at the same time resent the experience? What does it mean to be grateful? To fully express ones gratitude - does that make one subservient - less than one can be, should be, is? Or does finding the truth of being grateful make us more of who we are, what we are becoming. Does the experience and the expression of what it is make us better people. And then what of resentment. Is there anything positive in that? Is there any point in it? My Mum is sitting with me and has said to me - (my para phrasing) " life is a game and in any game you can always find a way to win it - persevere, persistence and patience - with these three things you can win - you can find a way to win and perhaps you can indeed find yourself. Importantly it is not so much about winning but getting past that line that life seems to set out in front of us. Facing the hurdles and getting on with it." Note: comments on old entries are closed. Please comment only on the current entry. Comments Paul, Your Mum is wise. You are a most fortunate son. I like to think that I am succeeding just by trying. All goals are arbitrary. They are only there to pull us forward, to lift us up. Living is winning. Winning is not necessarily living. I can see that I have benefited from my life experiences, despite not feeling altogether happy with every one of them. Resentful?...I don't know,..sometimes, maybe,...just a tiny bit. I try not to be. No, there is no point in it. I agree, lets face those hurdles and get on with it. Thanks. Say G'day to your Mum, and tell her what a good son she has. Peter Posted by: Peter on April 2, 2003 05:44 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8Paul...How timely this thread is! I am feeling exactly like "grateful for an opportunity and yet at the same time resent the experience" because I didn't win. I was one of two left being considered to re-design the governor's residence. I should be honored to have made it this far but I found out yesterday, because the choice was so close, they flipped a coin to decide!! Ah, screwed by serendipity! I will survive and move forward but for now, I wallow in self-pity. Linda Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 2, 2003 07:09 PMfrom IP: 216.93.120.157Paul Yes gratitude is necessary to fully find yourself in my opinion. Goals are arbitrary, lifes experiences are basically uncontrollable, you can try and steer the ship, but things happen as they will to say the least but successes are usually the result of some sincere input on ones part. I think then is when you should step back and be grateful. You as a person were able to pull all the right strings and make something happen for yourself. This often involved other people and time. Don't take it for granted. Patience is KEY of the 3 you mum mentioned. Therein is where I think resentment can rear its head. We often want things faster than they are going to come or happen and then we become resentful that maybe others attained things faster. Your mum was right it's just getting past that "line" that life hangs in front of us. I'm all tangled up in a monkey bar of rope right now, but soon I hope I'll just see that goal line again. You are there. You've attained another goal. You can be on stage this fall. You can get back into the mainstream and then who knows what will lie ahead. Hopefully much more. You're so very very fortunate Paul. You have an incredible source of love and support. A mum that must adore you. A wife that loves you and supports you and children that love and respect you. They all support where you want to go. That is SO MUCH. I don't have that. You're very lucky. And they want you to succeed in your venture (as all of us here do) whatever it takes. You're a blessed man (don't take any religious bullshit in that) just you're in a special place. Ok so that's my soapbox today. In answer to your question. Yes you can resent the experience but that only slows you down. My psychologist tells me in coping with life you must let the past GO. Being resentful is holding onto something negative. Let it go. It's taking up space in your life. God knows that's easier said than done (especially for me). But you have to try. Give my regards to your family. Hello to everyone on PC. Peace and love everyone Timbo Posted by: Tim Hord on April 2, 2003 10:11 PMfrom IP: 216.78.44.209This is in response to two things fromthe last thread The tattoo didn't hurt..feels kind of funny. The hard part was the position I had to keep my leg in while he did the work. The Mrs hasn't seen it. Hiding it right now. It'll just show up one day and she'll have her FIT. And it will be a huge one, you'll probably hear her screaming and crying and bellyaching where you are. We're not "communicating" really well again. Michelle NS..you're a native Southern Californian and now you're in NS? God I could never do that. When do you relocate? When you were a little person of maybe 5? At this point I could never go north. Atlanta is too cold for me. Just the changes. I would prefer Southern Cal. I can't stand Florida. Actually it would be great if that continuation of Mexico below California was US territory. WARMER I'd love that. Later wow Paul...you have an amazing Mom. Can i borrow her - for my days where my sails are deflated? LOL seriously she's great! i liked the part about stepping past the line...i think that's the hardest part...making yourself engage in the game and moving forward, aiming to win...for me it all starts or ends....in the mind. It's possible to talk myself out of something great even before I begin it...as a bit of a perfectionist it's the defeatist side - not wanting to fail. I think gratitude, for the moment, the experience and the opportunity comes with an open heart and and open mind which values learning in all forms, and perhaps the entire process. i think, for me, it's a byproduct of acceptance and letting go of personal will and allowing things to unfold (while participating), and valuing the creative energies at play... i dunno...just some thoughts. i like gratitude. i think it can be viewed as subserviant by those who do not understand its power, strength and beauty. i think those who use it, express it, feel it, practice it are rewarded in plenty. cheers, hugz, kix, Posted by: Katalina on April 3, 2003 04:36 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124 Ok, Peter darling...can I just say that I sat and re-read your "Living is winning. Winning is not necessarily living." five times? That's IT, man! People race to "the top" and "win". But then where are they? (insert person you know here) Gratitude: I used to confuse "gratitude" with "worship" from my old Presbo days growing up. I think gratitude is heartfelt, it pours out of us when we are full, or when something touches us deeply. It is triggered by Love and Happiness. Don't you agree? If I have fallen overboard and someone rescues me and hands me a towel I am grateful. BUT (she says, saucilly) there indeed are levels of gratitude as well. Am I AS grateful when I step out of the shower and someone hands me a towel? Some say I SHOULD BE, because that means I have people around me who love me and are in my daily life to help care for me (or who just realized they had grabbed YOUR towel for THEIR shower a half hour earlier! ;-) Gratitude for the experience? Oof, that's a hard one. Not as complex as Paul's and his Mum's post, but still...food for thought. Love to All, Here's another "p" word, perspective. Whether you feel gratitude or resentment in any given situation probably depends largely on how you feel about yourself at any given time. If your perspective is that you are a worthy, deserving person, then gratitude will bubble forth. If, however, your pride has taken a hit, and you are feeling a bit dejected, resentment will rear it's ugly head as you question the motives of others as well as your own judgement. Love to all, Peter, giving your best is winning, is succeeding, is living. Giving your best is expressing who you are - what more can we do but give our best. Linda - perhaps saved by serendipity. Tim, I'm all for cutting loose the baggage. In fact I have been working on doing just that and low and behold some good opportunities have began to open up. Katalina, man would have achieved nothing if not for daring to dream and then daring to turn those dreams into reality. I love the thought that gratutude is an openness to life and living that is unconditional and all embracing. Dhiana, yep I know people who have won all their lives but have no life to speak of! Sad hey!? Michelle, a true thought - "All we are is the result of what we have thought". And a frightening thought too! If this is the case then having a positive loving and humane way of thinking is well worth considering. Posted by: Paul on April 3, 2003 11:19 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221Interesting thread and equally interesting posts from the equally interesting people in Paul's Corner. Good evening from WV. I've felt gratitude and resentment at the same time: my teaching job for example. I'm grateful for the money and the opportunity for job experience, but I resent having to do something I don't absolutely love (don't we all?). On the up side it's giving me a chance to work through some of my issues concerning fine art and its service in today's society. I know I've yet to cross the career/life line your mum was talking about though. There's no doubt that I'm having a mid-life crisis and that's particularly uncomfortable because I've indulged in a prolonged adolesence. In some ways I wish I was more motivated by money. Maybe it would make me work harder. I keep thinking that once I "really" find my way, things will flow along more smoothly. I'll have a home, etc. Doing what I love, I'll work my ass off. So right now I'm trying to continue doing the things it takes to get there. I'm on the verge of giving up, but I could take the same work and make it the next step in my journey with just a little more effort. I'm knocking on doors for information. What will I learn? On the resentment issue I'm reminded of one of Evelyn's quotes about anger hurting the angry person. I've also read an Asian proverb that said people can experience happiness in the knowledge that they have upset you. People do control others with anger. Our egos make us easy targets of provocation. On the gratitude issue, I've noticed among some people a reluctance to express gratitude for anything. It's as if the acknowledement of thankfullness will some how indebt them to you. Some also perceive gratitude as weakness. I used to wonder how I should deal with this sort of person: hide gratitude? I decided to just be myself and express thankfullness. I can't change my thinking for each person though there be advantage in it. Love to Everyone (especially Grandma Mil and hard working Evelyn)! It's after midnight and I want to respond to your observations, Paul, and to the other comments here tomorrow (there's so much to say on this and I hope I'll remember all the ramblings in my head at this moment). In the interim, I wanted to post the quotation that was given to me (on a wallet card) many years ago by a dear friend: "Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and Determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan “Press On”, has solved and will always solve the problems of the human race. Calvin Coolidge is not one of our highly regarded presidents, by the way. Still, I think this is a wise observation. What say you??? Posted by: Dianeq on April 3, 2003 03:18 PMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102I think ole man Coolidge had a point. Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on April 3, 2003 07:03 PMfrom IP: 216.78.37.243Coolidge hit the nail on the head Diane. Thanks for sharing the quote. Goodmorning Tim. Let's not give up. Goodmorning Millie, Evelyn and Everyone at the corner. Goodnight Paul and Peter. Dog out, Good morning everyone. Sorry, I'm breaking the topic, a very interesting one by the way, no time to comment on it just yet. But "Follies 2003-Part I" is finally up on the web. The entry page for all "Follies 2003-Love is in the Air" web-activity is at http://www.tc.umn.edu/~meye0289/Follies2003.html We are sort of planning to get images from the show up eventually, but we have to digitze the video first and then extract still images from it and the video came out Monday or is still coming out, so you have to be patient some more with that. Have fun & love to all. BRAVO! to evie, whit and granny mil....the pics are great! granny mil in her cowgirl hat...looks like a wrangling kind of gal to me!!!! and evie - i see you were there in spirit...kOOl! later all.... Posted by: bluedog on April 4, 2003 02:00 AMfrom IP: 168.56.106.198Great pics! Thanks for sharing..can't wait for the next set. Posted by: innussiq on April 4, 2003 02:26 AMfrom IP: 12.172.241.156I love it Evelyn!!!! If you get a chance, and it isn't too time consuming, can you insert that shot of Mil's computer room? I think people would enjoy being able to imagine sweet Millie at her keyboard on Paul's Corner. Thanks for all the work you've put into this Evelyn. I know Millie loves it! And what a nice sketch of her! You really have artistic talent. You should continue to draw. By the way, did you notice what's sitting on the little table in Mil's breakfast nook? Thanks bluedog. It was definitely a fun thing to team up on. You can see they had me celebrating most of the time. The show was fast paced and fun and then meeting her long time friends on such a wonderful occassion; I was honored to be there. Innusig, I too can't wait to see what images Mil will capture from her tape and how Evelyn will put them together. Naturally, I wasn't allowed to take pictures during the performances. I'm sure they'll give you more of an idea of what it was like during the show. Dog out! That makes three of us who want to see the pix of the actual show ... :-) Uhmm, Whit, you of all people, a Photoshop user, should know how the charcoal drawing of grandma came into existence. I wish I could draw that well, but I'm not there yet. Will keep practicing though. Check out the artistic or graphic filters that you can apply to images, of course you mess with them until you get the look you want, so there is some sort of artistic creative part that I brought to that image, but ... need I say more? And yep, I'd be happy to add the computer room image, email it to me. In an ambitious moment, I might just have to edit grandma into the picture sitting at the desk and put the corner on her screen ... But let it be stated, that you and grandma did a wonderful job too. Without your work this site wouldn't be there. Thank you to the two of you! Glad you all liked it. It was tremendous fun for me and also a very nice stress relief. I feel flatter than just flat out like a lizzard drinking (did I get this right this time???) Diane, a belated congratulations on your 19 years of marriage. That is so cool. May 19 more wonderful years follow than the ones you already shared! Love to all, Oh mi gosh you guys!!! Those pix are super! thx thx thx!! whoohoooooo! what a beautiful transition between slides too. nicely done!! wow! Diane: i loved that Coolidge quote and happen to very much agree. Persistence and Determination can get the job done. Press On!! I think that's always been a soul motto....and it's a good one, at least for me. And as Paul pointed out and as other little universal hints keep dropping at my feet or slapping my face lately...daring to step out of the dreaming and daring to make the dream/s real -- it's time!!! that seems to be my universal theme of late...in huuuuuuge ways. Time to end _my_ prolonged adolescence and step up, step into...the next level, make it Real. No more overanalyzing...that's just a clever way to procrastinate (for me)....and maybe miss windows of opportunity. So interesting that these things keep popping into my line of vision, hearing, etc...same theme, same message....WAKEUP Woman!!! Hope all in the PC are doing well and having a great week thus far. Hi to Inn, Tim, Evie, bluedog, Whit, G. Mil and G. Elliott, Linda, deltalady, and all others here! Hugz, kix
Whoo Hoo what an event Aunt Mil. You missed your calling. Teacher????!!! You're a director, producer. Incredible pictures and you all look either quite lovely or for Uncle Ellie dashing. Aunt Mil just one more time...you are simply lovely. You have a smile that sets a stage on fire. I know you are enduring a lot of emotional stress right now and even then, but you transcend all of that and illuminate even over cyber space. I am so glad to have had the pleasure of meeting you here. I hope everyone is doing well and enduring lifes little ups and downs. My 10 year old is driving me crazy begging for a Rotweiller (sp) dog. I said NO. Everytime I watch the news, some pit bull or rotweiller has killed some small kid or kids. We only have 8 more classes till our concert. The first one with the kids to "Me and my shadow" is a hoot. It'll be a blast. Then us "oldsters" are doing our number to "Boogie Shoes." Another hoot. We've actually done quite well, so says our teacher. Gotta go. Peace and love to everyone Timbo Posted by: Tim Hord on April 4, 2003 10:12 AMfrom IP: 216.78.40.47Tim: wish i could be a little fly on the wall to listen and watch that concert!! Sounds like a hoot alright and like lots of fun! I think i remember a little song n dance number w/some friends in jr. high to "Glowworm"....oh mi gosh.....blush blush.... I like the idea of Boogie Shoes much better!!!! *wink n a grinn for our Tim*
Hey Everyone, Was just looking at the recipie section. That vegie-egg soup sounds really good. Gonna have to try in soon. Oh, Whitney, found out what a "spatchcock" is. Just had to look it up. It's a "dressed and split chicken for broiling or roasting on a spit". Just thought that you'd like to know. Hope everyone is doing well. Just about to settle down to a good movie... Love to all... Margie Posted by: Margie on April 4, 2003 12:17 PMfrom IP: 66.27.220.210BTW: i second that bluedog "kOOl" with a "kewl" Katalina Posted by: Katalina on April 4, 2003 12:46 PMfrom IP: 64.12.96.171Grandma's Here: Words are difficult to express the GRATITUDE and love that Ellie and I feel for all of you, on you wonderful comments about the website in honor of "Follies 2003." Evelyn and Whitney, with such devotion and utter genius, worked together, over the Internet, in order to share the materials, decide on the style, the color, and the captions. Of course, having Whitney backstage at Follies and in our home with her camera was indispensible! Evelyn opened her beautiful website to allow Follies in, and with her ingenuity, appeared in some of the pictures! There you have a collaboration that brought such pleasure to Ellie and me. We are so happy to be able to share this project with all of you on Paul's Corner. If you go to the pictures inside our home, you will see a collection of pictures on the wall...look closely at the bottom, and there is a picture of Tara Morice, and a poster of Strictly Ballroom, and there you are too, Paul! A shrine? You bet!!!!! By the way, the picture of old Mil in that cowboy hat is a favorite of mine. That was the outfit I wore for my Patsy Cline lipsync act in Follies. Ellie "played" a toy guitar as my "accompaniment". My newest favorite lip sync is from the movie "Chicago." It's Queen Latifa's "When You're Again, thank you, Whit and Evelyn, for that tremendous job, and for all the wonderful remarks from the Corner...like George M. Cohan once said, Love, Grandma
'Mornin Everyone, Speaking of talent...I finally ("officially") found out what I've been totin' these hips around for all these years...Belly dancing! I've been goofing off with it on my own for a year now, but finally took my first class last night. I've been practicing "sinking my navel" all the way in on the icy roads while listening to the audio cassette of "Prisoner of Azkaban". Everytime a certain character speaks I sink, then when someone else does, I relax. Sink, relax. Sink, relax. And then I realize I've sped the van up again and must slow down for the conditions. Ah, life...gratitude for living, that's the ticket today. Love and hugs, Lady Dhi? what exactly does "sinking the navel" mean? LOL sounds interesting... Tell us more!!! Hugz n "sinks?" (finger cymbals in background...) i guess i should have been more specific on "hip circle" as i don't know what the movement is truly called.. good for the shy ones (like me!!) to use ...LOL maybe u know which one i mean? Katalina dedicado a Katalina "Inspiracion" Imponente como una diosa, Dear Goddess Dhiana, I'm bloody grateful that I have this life. I learn something every day (well, most days), and I'm truly grateful for that. Have a great weekend everyone. Pete Posted by: Peter on April 5, 2003 04:45 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.8estoy muy agadecdio para el poema hermoso, Enzzzo... muchas gracias, Katalina Posted by: on April 5, 2003 05:30 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124oops..should read agradecido... lol Paul...Thanks for the "kick"! I pride myself on not taking myself (or anyone else, for that matter) too seriously. But I do have the momentary lapse. Diane...Again with the great stuff! I have always admired Coolidge and his wife, Grace, for her perseverance on his behalf. Evelyn...Many thanks for all your efforts on the slide show of "Follies". It makes us all feel like we were there in body because we were in spirit. Whitney...Ditto. Millie...What an inspiration you are to everyone! So much energy and so much more to give. Thanks. Linda Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 5, 2003 10:51 AMfrom IP: 216.93.25.20KATALINA.. hello, i recently read your post-from some time ago- regarding your migraine pain. my apologies for not responding sooner- i hadn't been back to this site for a while. if in the future you're suffering from migraine pain feel free to email me- i would be happy to give you some advice that might help. i have quite a few patients who suffer from migrains- for a variety of reasons. hope your feeling better. PAUL...congratulations on your monty offer! if you decide to take it,make sure you stretch-alot. good luck to you. greg in nyc Posted by: greg on April 5, 2003 09:45 PMfrom IP: 66.108.111.158Hi Greg! Thx! I actually don't get migraines that frequently. When i do they're usually pain free, but trippy. As in it affects my vision and balance and I get nauseous. It usually doesn't last beyond a few hours tho, so I'm fortunate. My little sis gets painful (drive ya crazy) ones that can last up to five days. I can actually see one coming on in her (around the eyes, puffy, eyes at half mast, etc.) before she can. She has to take Maxolt? or that emergency shot if it's that bad. So far so good for me...no meds, no drugs..just rest and positive thinking it away thus far... But, yes, I'd be interested in learning maybe how to deal with it in progress or maybe at a prevention level. I'll let ya know if/when there's a next time.
Have a great weekend everybody! Katalina Posted by: Katalina on April 6, 2003 06:27 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101hey Kat. I'm still here. Hope everyone is well. I'd like to give belly dancing a try but I think I have a bit too much belly! Had a great visit with two of my sisters yesterday. I'm home alone right now so if you'll excuse me I think I'm going to watch tv without having to argue over it. Hello everyone at P.C. Hello again. I would like to voice my gratitude for the support of me in following my heart. Thank you, it really means so much to me. I think the subjects gratitude and resentment are interesting when viewed from a distance--when in the experience they seem only all incompassing. Resentment and gradtitude seem to be some of the 'cushier' emotions. What I mean by that is often we allow ourselves to ignor them. Like me I was not going to write tonight to say thank you all, but my heart went up and grabbed my throat and said, "Wait a minute here you want to say this little thank you, and if you don't you'll resent it." So resentment I think, is the by product of not following ones heart. I find myself resenting not being thinner or smarter, but when I take action and do the scary act (following my heart)I am often very grateful of the results. Like just yesterday I finally called some friends I had wanted to talk to for the longest time, but have told myself if they wanted to hear from me they would have called (I resented them not calling me.) Anyway in calling we had a wonderful talk and have met up for fun since then (so I am greatful.) Good morning Millie, Elliot, Evelyn, Tim, Inn, Bluedog, Katalina, Greg, Linda, Peter, Paul, Dhiana, enzzzzo, Margie (thanks for finding out what a spatchcock was), Michelle/Chicago. Michelle in the other place, Melinda and all the people MIA. Where's our little Kelly girl? I'm sorry I haven't participated as much lately, but I do my best to keep up on the posts and write when I can. The comments on the topic are very insightful. Thank you Mil, for letting me take photos of your lovely home and allowing Evelyn to post them. I would love to see pages of photos of everyone; just the images you want to show us. I can just imagine how a bluedog or an innussiq lives. I may post some pictures of the oncoming WV Spring; it's one of our most beautiful times of year. Oh and Tim, I'm not trying to give your 10 year old ammo, but if you find a show quality Rottweiler breeder and buy one of their pet puppies, you'll pay about $600, but you'll get a dog with a good personality. They make a great companion dog. Go online as well as looking in the classified section of Dog Fancy or Dog World magazine. Just like the German Shepherd and the Poodle, that breed has been a favorite of puppy mills and other nonprofessionals who don't care about temperament and even try to breed an ill tempered dog. I believe the Rottweiler is one of the breeds mixed to produce a pit bull (that recipe varies). What about a Mastiff (bigger dog). They're nick named the Nanny dog because they're so good with kids that they're said to "babysit" in their native England. Again, find a professional breeder that raises for show and then buy one of their pet quality pups; they're cheaper and just as wonderful. Oh and please do get a tape of your show. If you get me a copy, I can do still captures from the performance for you. It sounds wonderful! I too find day light savings time silly. Katalina, I'll bet your were a cutie in your little outfit. That circular step sounds like one I learned from a stripping how-to video (hey, a girl never knows what she might have to do for a living). But seriously, seems like it had a name that involved the petal like shape you trace with your foot before you turn to the next side. Clover pattern or petal or some such name. That's supposed to be a great way to get in shape (and men love it). Good choice Dhiana! Melinda, I understand your reluctance to call people who haven't bothered to contact you. This friendship thing should be prettty easy, and if it gets too hard and I seem to be doing all the work, I give up. However, it never hurts to give an old pal a second chance. And it resulted in a fun outting; how cool!!!! Many of the things your "resent" are "regrets" for me. When I regret something like my obessity for example, I do something about it. Repeatedly if needed. Otherwise, I experience guilt for not doing my best. I don't like "shoulds" either so I change them all to "coulds" when I can. 17 is so young though I know it seems old to you. I remember it being a pretty laid back time for me because I just didn't know I was supposed to be worrying about what I'd do for a living, etc. This is the time to start exploring your options. Regardless of what you do, try to go to college if you can. It's not going to get any cheaper and these days a Bachelors degree is the equivalent of a high school diploma. Besides, you'll have fun, expand your knowledge base and make connections. You don't have to know what you want to major in right away. Just start with the basic requirements and find a good advisor to help you plot your course as you go along. Well, I apologize for making this so long. I love you all. Have a great day! Oh, this daylight savings time. I was raised on the farm and thought this was dumbest thing I ever heard. Your up at daybreak and eat when breakfast has worn off and quit working when it is too dark to tell the weeds from the cotton. Hi to the PC!! Hey Enzzzzo:
Hey Sherrlyn: my brother, sis and I and all of our neighborhood friends used to chuck crabapples at one another when kids... I got such a grinn when i read ur post. we were so baaaaad. it was fun tho.little delinquents. LOL oh those crabapple wars!!!! resident mischief maker - but all in good twinkling fun, tossing crabapple at Inn -kerpow! snicker, snicker, snicker!! hehehehehe Posted by: Katalina on April 7, 2003 08:43 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101Crabapple wars? predacessor to paintball i think. LOL... Kat Posted by: Katalina on April 7, 2003 08:53 AMfrom IP: 152.163.189.101Diane, Congrats on 19 years!!!! I actually posted a bit ago but for what ever reason it didnt make it?!? I cant comment on the Monty as this site is being monitored by people who are not pleased or happy if I say something prior to their schedule - read in to that what you will - am I am being gagged on my own site? Stay tuned to find out what happens next. There is something else in the pipe line which I have had to sign a no speak order on. I should be able to say something in the next week but the suspense is killing me!!!! I may or may not get it, do it and so life goes on - but the suspense is KILLING ME. You know in some ways you guys are lucky! There is no one offering you a job (that you would really like) but threatenihng you that if you talk about it they will sue you! And they arent even offering the job! They say we may give it to you but you have to jump through some hoops and we will see what happens as they are talking to three other parties, oh and by the way can you act? Its a prick of a proffession! If all this seems a bit scatty- it is, I cant talk about it, my life, my experience, I cant talk about it - any reason for that - Yes - they wish to make the announcement. So stay tuned! Posted by: Paul on April 7, 2003 08:21 PMfrom IP: 211.28.96.68This is very exciting Paul! We don't have to know specifics; we always hope the best for you. It's sad that you can't be yourself on your own site, but the things you can't tell us are the things we've been hoping for, so I think we can handle the suspense. Maybe you can develop the recipe and poetry sections more. Evelyn was wishing for a recipe that required the use of some leftover beer. Can you help her? Whatever happens, I feel safe speaking for everyone when I say we really enjoy your work and we have no doubt that you're on your way to more fun and exciting opportunities! We so want to see you on that big screen again (or the stage). There's a reason for everything dear Paul, so sit tight, but keep knocking on those doors. remember what your mum said: perseverance wins! Thanks for letting us in on the fact that you can't let us in on the facts. Enjoy the suspence. It beats the hell out of knowing you didn't get the part (though that's unlikely if it's the right one for you) and heightens the pleasure when you do. It's a small sacrifice to make. Good night and sweet dreams Paul. Good morning Grandma. No email this morning? Et tu Evelyn? Good morning Everyone. Have a grand day! Paul, say, is the suspense really KILLING you or what? ;-) Wishing you the best--more later on hip circles, etc. Now I'm in suspense with Paul. Thanks, chum! Hugs, Hey Paul...don't sweat it mate. You do what you gotta do. We're just your curious cheering squad. We totally understand privacy and contracts and corporate bullshit in all its forms. So hey just know we're behind you a 1000% and hoping for the absolute best. Love hearing you'll notifywhne you can...that's the best we can hope for. Awesome. Hoping for the best as always... Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on April 8, 2003 03:23 AMfrom IP: 216.78.40.3Paul, We all have to do our best to get on in this wacko commercial world, complete with rules, restrictions, pressures, arse covering manouvres, etc.... Never mind the strings. They will loosen and fall off eventually. A good day to all. Peter Ok, quick before I dash off for home in this freaking BLIZZARD... Sinking the navel. Stand feet shoulder width apart and bend knees slightly. Exhale and draw your navel in towards your backbone. Don't round your shoulders! You're aligning your pubic bone, navel, and heart chakra/center (middle of your chest, about 2inches behind your breastbone). TADA! Presto! Sunken Navel! Now the hard part--your waist is the equator, and you want to draw u's with your navel, being careful not to raise your hip bone above the "equator". (You DO raise your hip above that line, but not in this most basic, most centering move.) This motion, the "u", is described in Bedouin lore as the beginning of creation, and the actual, textual representation of it, (a dot with an upturned parenthesis underneath it) is the word for "Is" (as in the English verb, "to be") which is also the root word for their word for "Creator". So, by making this movement, by drawing this text with the center of your being, you are dancing yourself into being. (the teacher never mentioned that, this is something I read and have thought about since last year.) I think I'll go home and work on that. ;-) Blessings and Light, Paul, don't let the suspense kill you. We'd miss you too much if it did! Although the feeling of having your life sort of put on hold (something I currently can relate to), having to wait for the outcome of something is tough esp. when you don't get to talk about it, and at the same time can be exciting. I hope this isn't too distracting for you. Wishing for the best possible outcome for you!!! Whit, don't take it personally this week, when you don't get an email as promptly from me as you normally do. You know this is my big work week from hell, even though I'm not going to let it be "from hell." I'm going to stay calm, focused, polite (even when I want to /should strangle someone ...), smile and have fun, go with the flow and not let this conference overwhelm me. Things will go wrong and not as smoothly as I want them to, but that's life and I will think on my feet and come up with a solution. That's the plan anyway, let's see how I measure up against that one :-) Katalina, who's Enzzzo? I like your residence mischief. Dhiana, the sinking navel part I get, get to do it a lot in Pilates, but the equator movement I'd have to practise too, a lot. Sounds fun though and I like the symbolism (if it is that) behind the motion. Oh and Tim, I actually think that Grandpa looks totally hot in the Follies pictures!!! Nope, I'm not making a move on Grandma's husband (or for that matter anyone else's husband) ... blushing to at least the same shade of red as the background of Follies, perhaps even more. :-) Okay, before I get myself into any more trouble, I'm out. Have a lot to do left tonight anyway. Want to sleep though. Peace, love and serenity to all. I'm just going to reiterate what everyone else is saying and even repeat myself. How unusual is that? Ha. The success you are due for Paul far far exceeds this momentary muteness required by the powers to be. Of course they want to make their own publicity statements about who will be appearing in their next show. To let it out might not give adequate time to prepare. SO, I understand and we all understand your limited dialogue, and for those of your potential "people" that may be reading this board, you've got the absolute BEST PERSON for the part. We have total and complete trust in his ability to give an outstanding performance. So much so, that myself and my wife, once we get complete details on "what" Paul is doing are planning a trip to Australia to SEE it. My wife is going to work for a Hospital here in Atlanta. We'll have incredible health and dental benefits. My job has changed too, I'm working at the salon on Saturdays and I started a Mobile Salon business. My old customers are calling me up and I'm doing their hair in their homes. Here's the difference. A $425 day in the salon equates to about $195 for me. Now a $425 day at their homes amounts to about $390 for me (less chemicals and petro). Viva la difference! Well peace and love to everone. Timbo Posted by: Tim Hord on April 8, 2003 09:26 AMfrom IP: 216.78.44.66Wow. I came here a long time ago before seeing Paul in any movies. I finally saw Strictly Ballroom. It was great, although my mom was wondering why I was watching it. I guess I don't usually watch that kind of a movie. :/ I love this Paul's corner section. It's nice to see Paul posting a lot. Best wishes in the future Paul! ~Jenny Posted by: Jenny on April 8, 2003 09:36 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187WHAM! Struck with a crabapple while writing poetry. Gotcha Kat! OMG..how selfish am I?!?!? Paul, I am eager to hear your news too! I'm happy that business is picking up for you. Don't worry too much about the legal B.S. we will know soon enough. Just think how much fun it is to keep us all hanging on our seats! Paul...How great that things are percolating and will soon bubble over. You know in what high regard everyone holds you. Good things must come soon. Like spring the midwest US...as I plow through six inches of snow in April. Please! Enough of winter rearing its ugly self. All the best to you, Linda Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 8, 2003 10:22 AMfrom IP: 216.93.117.5Wow...the suspense is killing us too Paul!! I ducked Inn!!! (cleaning off wall next to computer) Blech. LOL Thx for the navel sinking description and background, Dhi. wow sounds beautiful. How long have u been doing bellydancing? Evelyn: uhmmm..re: Enzzzzo...(blush) no comment. Hi Whitney! Hi Peter, Hi Tim, Linda, D...
:) wink n a grinn,
What do ya mean left over beer??????!!!!!?????? You'd never cut it in Oz if you leave bits of beer all over the place!? But hey if you do - why not throw it in some flour with a little yeast and salt and dried herbs. Mix into a dough chuck in some finely cubed cheese and maybe some salami/chorizo /bacon/ or ham, turkey, duck , blood sausage/ chicken etc and bake up some yummy savoury bread? Oh you could also dice up some jalapeno's and chuck them in too! BUT really left over beer? Crabapple??? Thats a tree isnt it? You know it is funny because I would love to wake up and see the world covered in snow. I remeber when I was back packing through Europe and I went to Switzerland for Xmas - oh god it was beautiful! I remember skating at a rink on the top of a mountain and everything was covered in snow. I have often said to my US agent that I would love to make a movie in the snow and she keeps saying no you dont. Sure it would be cold, wet, slushy and hard yakka but I rather think I would love it. Besides after work I could light a fire and slowly sup some good malty beer to warn my inside whilst warming my outsides by the fire. All the while staring out of the window and looking at a whole new world all white, pure and innocent. And you can be sure I would enjoy it and you can also be sure I wouldnt have a bit of beer left over! Posted by: Paul on April 8, 2003 02:55 PMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221Paul, Paul, as Tara sings (in "Time After Time") "I will be waaaaiting"...that's us! Timbo, what an inspiration for you to go on the road with your services! May I suggest that you also contact the senior communities in Atlanta. We seniors keep a lot of beauty parlors going here in Florida! A lot of seniors cannot get out of their homes because of health or transportation problems, and I am sure the same goes in Atlanta. Sorry to hear about all the bad weather..Ellie and I haven't seen a snowflake since we retired. We don't miss the northern winters at all. Paul, does sitting around a fire and sipping some nice beer beat sitting beside a warm, lovely, sparkling pool and sipping the same beer? Down here the seniors have to be careful not to sip too much..no lifeguards! Evelyn and Whit are putting the finishing touches on the "Follies" website. What a beautiful and touching tribute to the show and our family...I have tried to thank them over and over, but words just do not suffice. I will have to think of something... Good fortune, good health, peace and love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 8, 2003 06:28 PMfrom IP: 209.86.187.63Paul... Snow...Hmmm...My wife skied in Switzerland and thought the snow was incredible and beautiful and awe inspiring, however, in Atlanta when it snows, it's just one big ugly damn mess. It's cute for a day while it covers the trees then everything turns to ice and it gets dirty and well that's the end of that and we're all wanting it to fade away which it usually does in a couple of days. Inn...you have my condolences sweety..I would never and could never move myself to a colder region. Would love to relocate out of country but I guess the best I may ever do is get back out to Southern Cal. Are you still selling computers Paul? Just out of curiosity have you told them of your impending possibilities or do you just keep it mum until you know you're OUTTA THERE. It's inside projects today. The kids are on spring break and we're taking the opportunity while we are all home to get our house cleaned out and all repairs completed. Never know if we may need to sell it. Although I'd love to, but the MRS doesn't. Have to pick up my taxes today and mail those off. After world war II taxes were supposed to be a temporary thing? HELLO?????? And we left England because of let's see taxes and debtors prison????? Well I seem to fit both of those categories here so now where do I go?? I will share this if I haven't already. One family my wife works for, and I help her from time to time with it, is a retired banker. Their current residence is for sale (2.4 million). Their beach house in South Carolina is worth about $3million. They bought more land on an island near Charleston S.C. and are building another home. They are not poor. Whilst (love that expression), emptying the trash in the Masters office, I ran across a spreadsheet..well I couldn't help but look...I mean all these years of accounting. Gross income $13 million, federal taxes $7 million. Then another house of the same caliber my wife cleans, she's straightening up the gentlemens desk and on the top...no digging, we're not nosy seriously, his monthly bonus. $165,000. He's a financier lives here and has an apartment in Manhattan. I figure if I keep cleaning up their shitty toilets somethings bound to rub off and hopefully not the shit. : ) Love and Peace guys Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on April 8, 2003 06:39 PMfrom IP: 216.78.33.3Peter, great to see you on this board!! Long time friend, long time journey man. To be inspired by you, to share that journey and to continue on as we grow older(I turned 40 last week by the way and where is my card???)always friends, always journey man, alway inspiration to one another is a special gift. Thank you. By the way god is a girl!!! Lets have a skate soon! Grand Ma, sitting any where sipping on a beer, contemplating life and being with friends is heaven in itself. Even if being with friends is just thinking of them, even the ones we havent actualy met yet! Tim, what matters is the quality of life not the quantity. People have judged me because I have recieved big pay packets for a film - they never have a concern that I must sell computers to actually feed my family and buying clothes become a struggle. The point is what we percieve is perhaps what we desire but not necessarily what we actually need to make us better humans. I want, therefore I am dissapointed because I do not have. The act of wanting actually determines the fact of not having for if I have it I dont want it. There for to want it means I cannot have it. Know what I mean. I understand where you are coming from. What some people have is amazing but what they dont have is equally amazing. I had a job once where I was paid a handsome salary over a 2 month gig. After the job finished I was unemployed for 6 months - couldnt get a job - typical for a freelance actor. What it meant was that my handsome wage became a US $200 a week package to live on over 8 months. Too hard - only just survived and do not want do it again. We all struggle to survive either financially, spiritually or phyisically. I have always known but am constantly reminded the only person who can save you is you. You are the saviour. To you it falls to live the life you will, to be the best you can, to lick your wounds and get up to fight again to run again to express to live to laugh and to love You my friends YOU Posted by: Paul on April 8, 2003 08:44 PMfrom IP: 211.28.96.68Dear Paul, I can agree that not wanting will prevent disappointment, but from my experience, wanting something is essential to my having. Wanting won't guarantee I get. What I want may not be right for me and if I'm blessed, I only get the best things. It is possible, obviously, to get things that I want even though they aren't good for me. After all, we do have free will in the end. Dog out! Can I please "salvage" my reputation re. having left over some beer ONCE!!! I don't make a habit out of it, but since I've been so busy lately, I've often forgotten to eat all day and when I threw in the beer at the end of the day, it just so went to my head, there was no way I managed to finish it, get the picture? it did help me sleep for 11 hours though. Boy did I need that. And thanks Paul for the bread suggestion to use up left over beer (should that happen again) I'll try that next week when I hopefully have a life again. So can I please still come and visit OZ one of these days and "make it"? Switzerland, skiing, snow, skating outdoors-dang, open fire to warm up by, beer or spiked hot chocolate to warm up with ... I'm homesick now, I miss the mountains. But I'm with Inn, Linda, Dhiana on this one, I want SPRING, NOW!!! I also see your point, Paul, about it being up to us to live our life and make it what we want it to be. Had a few powerful lessons there lately, it was my choice to make whether I would be angry, pissed, hurt, stressed, upset about a lot of things that just came my way and for a week I was in this negative state of mind totally getting on my own nerves etc. and I was a total mess and in a very unfun and also unhealthy state of mind, but then I decided that I could choose to be happy, choose to accept the circumstances, accept those things that I couldn't change and be happy, calm and to let go instead. The inner peace I found this way is amazing and the calmness with which I go about my day is affecting others as well in a positive way and I'm enjoying the challenging circumstances. It's really amazing to watch myself and to see the positive impacts it's having on me. Finding inner strengths in me that I didn't know I had. Be well, have fun with life, have peace. Paul, I thought about your thoughts on my dog walk and I think it's important to remember that it's the illusion that our happiness will come from a particular event or object that leads to disappointment. We must keep an open mind as to what will lead us along our best possible journey. Hang in there little bro. Good morning everyone. Especially you, sweet Mil. Peace on earth and good will to all. Hello, big sis, we posted at the same time!!! One more thing, for grandma, the fact that you are enjoying the follies 2003 site as much as you do, is the best reward you could give me and all the thanks that I need! Love, Paul, Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would be writing to you on your website and that you might actually read it but here I am. I have been a fan of yours since seeing SB 18 times in the theatre and have been eagerly checking out your corner for the last couple of months (just found it). I am curious about one thing and hope you don't mind me asking - why do you think that God is a she? Paul...The lovely picture you paint of snow falling, a cozy fire, and something warm to drink is the way winter always begins. But my mid-January in mid-US, we are dying for spring. And by April, it is way overdue. A piece of ice fell off an overpass this morning and smashed the passenger side of my car windshield. Scared the hell out of me but it was only the windshield. Icey things should not be falling from the sky in April! Linda Posted by: on April 9, 2003 03:03 AMfrom IP: 161.225.1.12sniff, we didn't get our Snow this year... what a fairyland when it comes. the whole city shuts down in a quiet, pristine glistening diamond featherbed blanket. and the sky is that lovely periwinkle silvery white. neighbors talk to neighbors while walking to the store...youth is restored to all in pink cheeks, sledding excitement, and school and work closures!! yes, snow does that to us, i think... snowy easter hugz to all, BTW: hi Inn! guess what? 3 more days...till my friend comes to visit. Yippeeeeeee. hugz, Robin, that's a good question. PersonalIy, I'm guessing that the characteristics of male and femaleness are derived from facets of our Originator/origination. In my opinion, something was lost in the translation to humanity, resulting in the stereotypical behavior of men and women and the existence of two genders. For that reason I don't give God one gender. I doubt that God has one;) I think gender was possibly applied in the past by translators of religious writings, but I also believe that ancient disciples of God gave God a gender to help folks conceptualize or imagine. What do you think Paul? Posted by: Whitney on April 9, 2003 03:52 AMfrom IP: 129.71.184.175Linda, I'm glad you weren't hurt! I wanted to tell Paul exactly what you said regarding snow in April. Michelle in Chicago Posted by: Michelle on April 9, 2003 04:17 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140Paul Aunt Mil..you're right about the senior communities, most of them have buses that take them to salons or schools near their residence or they have a salon in-house. But it's a great idea I'll have to give it a shot. Later guys...have a great rest of the day or morning whichever is applicable. peace and love to everyone Timbo Posted by: Tim Hord on April 9, 2003 05:19 AMfrom IP: 216.78.41.1Ha ha Evelyn. I just read the posts where you were derided for having left-over beer. As I mentioned in my email, it wasn't until after I wrote, that I realized that Paul would struggle with that concept. It's a tough one for me too, but I understand there are moments when it's better to stop before you (gulp) finish the whole bottle. At least you got an interesting recipe from the revelation. On to work, Oh sure, snow starts out all cozy and pristine and innocent. Then...(dum dum DUM) your gutters fall off from the ice, you have to haul shovels full from the driveway to the back yard cuz there is nowhere else to put it. You have to spend 600$ a month for heat and that's with the fireplace. The kids have no holidays off and they have to go to school until the third week of June because they have used so many snow days. Oh, and lets not forget that snow days never happen on the parents day off so you must arrange for babysitters. I also have to shovel a path in the yard because my tiny little jack russell terrier won't go anywhere else but, and she can't walk in more than about two inches of the white stuff. There are so many other points I could pull out here but then I've already made myself sick with bitching about it. Welcome Robin, Thank you for joining us! God is a girl/woman because she is the creator - woman give birth not men hence we have mother earth hence I have decided to view god as a woman as a mother - creator nuturer. The greater truth is as my friend Peter Lynch said a "universal spirit". I agree with Whitney god does not have a gender although one has been assigned through out the ages for a convenience factor (and an ego factor for men. I would also go a little further and the say the name god has been contrived for our convenience. It's a lot easier than saying 'the positive power of the universe', 'all that is', 'universal spirit'etc I dont believe in god as such although I use the word for convenience sake. When I use the word god what I am actually talking about is 'the positive power of the universe', 'all that is', 'universal spirit', and all these thoughts actually add up to one thing - Love. Innussiq - I know what you mean. I hate Tuesdays because I have to put the rubbish out - what a winger once a week and I get upset and it only takes me two minutes!!!! Shovelling snow for the dog?!?!?!?! No friggin way. I'm with you COME ON SPRING! Posted by: Paul on April 9, 2003 09:46 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221I love this place. It really makes this 14 year old (me) think. I believe that there is only one true God. God has no gender. Ugh...I want spring to come too. It was here, but now there is snow outside again. School was cancelled because it caused a water main break, it's really cold, and my soccer game was cancelled. Actually, I want summer right now, not spring. I'm so sick of the cold! Thank you guys for expanding my mind to different possibilities! (I hope that made sense.) Posted by: Jenny on April 9, 2003 10:12 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187Welcome Jenny and thank you for joining in. Posted by: Paul on April 9, 2003 11:32 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221Tim, your door to door senior hair care service is pure genius and provides a compassionate alternative to a cab ride to the local salon. Good for you! You're "richer" than any financier. Still, I'm curious what is one? Thanks for responding to Robin's question Paul. I was curious about your opinion. Robin, I think it's magical and beautiful to contemplate God in any form. I love the idea of Earth Mother and wouldn't discourage anyone from attributing a gender. However, for me, just trying to imagine a Higher Order looking out for us since before the beginning of time, is a big leap. We can't know anything for sure 'til the end, so I'm glad everyone is free to think for themselves. Paul summed it up well; everything seems to be about love. Somehow it powers the cosmos. Good night Grandma. I love you. Hi Paul! Thank you for replying and giving me a warm welcome. I really think that I am going to enjoy it here. The reasoning of your posts are great. Well, I better be off to bed. Bye! Posted by: Jenny on April 9, 2003 12:12 PMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187dang, had to dodge flying crabapples, but finally got here! yipper folks!!! god has to be a woman, no way would a man god make it snow in chicago when the cubs are playing! "sinking the navel" and picturing the goddess dhiana zigzaging the car while practicing that move - i gotta find my recipe for a fuzzy navel!! my philosophy, albeit a bit skewed at times...there's only one ride on this ol' planet and i might just as well enjoy it even when it's a bit bumpy!!! so robin, did you throw up? later all....or as whit sez "dog out" (lol) Posted by: bluedog on April 9, 2003 12:31 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30I'm back, if only briefly. (Yeh, I hear ya', "Let's hope she means it.") Paul and Evelyn, thanks for your anniversary wishes. (Paul, I actually saw your earlier post before it disappeared. Or... maybe I'm just crazy. ...Your choice.) Ten years ago, I didn't know if my honey and I would make it; but here we are. It hasn't been easy, but it's been a great journey. We have become much than we thought we could be. And even though times are tough for us, we still have our sense of humor. (Marrying on April Fools Day was our way of reminding ourselves of the need for levity throughout our lives together.) Evelyn, you did a spectacular job with Millie's and Whitney's photos — and your "guest" appearances! Millie and Elliott, you have a beautiful family. I continue to keep you all in my thoughts and prayers. And what a great theatre! Geez. I'd love to perform in a place like that. Okay, at some point, let's all meet in Florida and "let's put on a show". BTW, Millie, I thought "Chicago" was great. I really identify with the added song, "We Just Move On." Whitney, did you know that you glow in those photos? You are really radiant. I'm glad that you had such a good time! And I know what you mean about lack of job satisfaction. I'm still trying to get there. Right now, I'm weighing my options. (Greg, what is the market like for massage therapists these days?) I realized this past weekend that I can't stay at my current "paying" job. I've discovered through my personal observations and the stories relayed by my co-workers that my employers are not ethical or trustworthy. It turns my stomach; but I don't want to quit until the owners return from an ill-timed vacation because I don't want to leave their long-time employees in the lurch during the busiest season of the year. So my stress level has hit the ceiling. Last week, I miscalculated a move in my car that resulted in negligable impact to the SUV in the next lane (more damage to my car). Now this woman whose bumper I buffed is filing a claim. What's next? Paul, I concur with your description of God. Michelle, how did our Cubs do? Sorry for you folks who are still struggling with snow. It's great to visit, I know, but living in that weather is another story altogether. Welcome, Robin! Welcome, Jenny! Greetings to everyone. Love, Diane Diane, I sent you anniversary congrats on the last thread..I didn't forget! Thank you for your comments about our children, and about the website. I was allowed to be part of Evelyn's beautiful website, which was so generous of Evelyn. She and Whit are both beautiful women, inside and out, and stop blushing, you two!!! Grandma has spoken and she is (almost) always right!!! Diane, it's a coincidence that you also love "Movin' On" from "Chicago." I am hoping to include that in my next Follies...in 2 years!! What a great number that is..I also love Queen Latifa's "When You're Good to Momma." I just learned it as my newest lipsync. What a gal, that Queen Latifia. She's only 33 years old, and her real name is Dana Owens, and she's from East Orange, New Jersey. She should have won the Oscar for best supporting role! This afternoon I'm taking 10 of my Follies performers to appear as the entertainment at a club luncheon. We are invited for lunch (bagels, cream cheese, pastry) and then we put on a mini show for an hour. Yes, we get a small stipend for our own group, The Wynmoor Entertainers. Another time we will also perform for charitable organizations for free..that is called our outreach program. Right now the Iraqis are dancing and cheering in the streets of Baghdad..can it be that Saddam is gone, and the war will be winding down? Praise the Lord! Love and Peace, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 9, 2003 06:34 PMfrom IP: 209.86.160.205Aunt Mil...you amaze me. You live such a fulfilled and happy life. God I want your spirit for it. That follies show is such a site. Purely amazing. I'm going to have to post some pictures from our little tap dance ...you'll get to meet me and my two youngest sons and then what the hell I'll post a family picture too so you can see my little princess. Always a pleasure. Greetings to everyone hope spring comes soon for you guys with all the snow, although even here in Atlanta it's in the 40's today and the 30's tomorrow then it's back up to the70's for the weekend. It's hell on outdoor gardens. Not to mention the a/c or heater. One minute you're running the A/C and then you wake up with ice hanging from the ceiling fan so you have to cut the heat on to warm the place up a bit. But that does not compare to you guys digging out paths just to walkthe dog or get out of your driveway...sorry but NO WAY. Peace and love to everyone. Hope this war is over soon. Timbo Posted by: Tim Hord on April 9, 2003 07:33 PMfrom IP: 216.78.45.141bluedog, your logic is hard to dispute. Maybe God is female! I like your philosophy. Diane, let me add my belated congratulations on your anniversary. It sounds like you've made it to the more stable phase they call compannionate love. Millie makes people glow. She's adorable! Message therapists make as much as $50+ an hour in WV and this is a poor state. One of my friends goes door to door to give messages in people's homes. He and his mother also rent space and provide relaxation massage services. If you're a giving person, it can be a very profitable career. Go get 'em Mil! I'm sure your audience will love your performance. I hope this is the end of the war. I pray God will continue to protect your growing family. Hey Tim, I was the quizical one. So a financier is sort of a money hustler sort of like a movie producer? Sounds sort of boring. Millie does have a wonderful life with her Elliot. I hope we all reach this level of satisfaction in our prefered ways. Welcome Robin and Jenny. I hope you'll keep coming to the Corner. The more the merrier! Tim's right; bring your concerns here if you need a variety of caring responses. Linda, before I forget, sorry to hear that you didn't get the gig. When I read about the coin flip it really ticked me off! Maybe this means there's a bigger job that waits for you right around the corner. Well Saddam's statue just came down. His icon is taking a well deserved beating and the people seem happy. God bless free Iraq and protect her people. Dog out! G'day all at PC. (yep Whit...still working off extra energy with those crabapple zingers..LOL) I agree...April is way too late for snow (i do like it in winter tho..but we just don't get it here anymore)...so, bring on the sun..I'll take it...Been stuck in 189 shades of gray lately in latteland. I want the yellow orb baaaaad!!! Hope everyone has a great day/eve. (2 more days...till zzzz-day LOL...Hi D. and hey bebe, I'm bringing my Q. LOL)
LOL Bluedog - actually I didn't throw up but I sure felt embarrassed for hours about posting a comment to Paul. I have a habit of placing celebrities (especially ones that I really like) way above me so the thought of him reading it threw me in a tizzy. Don't worry Robin. You'll find as many belief systems on this board as you will open minds. Follow your heart, as we all do and don't feel that you have to hide your belief in Christ. Katalina, I 'm way out of the loop. What's zzzzzz -day and I'm afraid to ask, but what's your Q? If it's a top secret inside joke, I'll understand if you don't elaborate. Whish... whish!!!! I almost nailed you with a crabapple! Sorry about knocking over that cup of java. I hope those papers didn't contain any of your wonderful writing. Your description of winter fun in a previous post was a pleasure to read. Do you write a lot? You could. You're good! Good morning Grandma. It was so nice to hear your voice this morning. Break a leg today (not really of course). I can just imagine how much your troop will be appreciated. And a special good morning to my hardworking, rascally little sis Evelyn. Your diligence will pay off in ways you can't even imagine (I enjoy sounding like an oracle sometimes). Keeping promises, being dependable and cherishing responsibility are actions that are universally admired. You're going places Doctor Eve!!!!! Love to All, Diane, the Cubs won yesterday and today! I hope the streak continues, but hey, they are the Cubs after all. Michelle in Chicago Posted by: Michelle on April 10, 2003 06:34 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140Will you please quit throwing the crabapples, I've only got blooms right now and would really like to see what they develope. It's not a very big tree and probably won't hold many. Now if you have a stockpile of crabapples go ahead and throw at will. I don't get into many of these discussions regarding "God". Maybe I don't understand the philosophy well enough. I have my bosses 14 year-old wanting me to explain to him why I don't go to church, why I won't go to church with them, and whether or not I believe in "God". I've told him it is none of his business, it's not something I care to discuss with a 14 year-old, nor do I want to discuss it at work. He's very persistant, I've told him he either needs a girl friend or a pet. Of which I am neither. Well I'm off to the office to work on more tax returns, 86 so far this year. Hope to have out a dozen more before Tuesday. Hugs to all here at PC, welcome to the newbies. Paul, do keep us informed on the career situation, you know we are anxiously awaiting the news and know you can hardly contain yourself. We will wait for the right time and celebrate heartily with you via e-mail of course. Sherrlyn Para los que no sepan, "q" es definido como el fruto de la pasion. Un regalo sublime, y por lo tanto, un estimulo muy grande que la ~adorabile Katalina~ ha impregnado en mis pensamientos...lo que yo siento por ella no termina alli sino alcanza hasta lo infinito, el amor puro! Un "Q" del mas alla, un "Q" elevado..... Posted by: enzzzzo on April 10, 2003 07:54 AMfrom IP: 192.246.17.190Hey Whit!! Thx..uhmm..zzzz-day (as in Enzzzzo)is the day i get to meet someone very special in person. *grinn* LOL Hugz n beijos, Yes, thanks again for your good wishes, Millie and Whitney. I do remember getting congratulations on the last thread, just don't recall from whom. I just saw the news footage about the statue. And I say amen to your prayer for the people of Iraq and for Millie's family and for Israel. Paul, I join the others in wishing you great good fortune from the projects immediately before you and, of course, beyond. Sherrlyn, working with and among the boss's family can be a major pain in the tuchas (Millie, help me with the spelling here). May you sail through the remaining paperwork with ease! Crabapples. Are those the pinkish-yellowish fruits that are thin with a rattling seed when ripe? There was a fruit behind my great-grandmother's house when I was growing up. I never did know what it was called, but it tasted like flowers. If you know what I'm describing, please let me know what it's called. Michelle (C), glad the Cubs did so well. I don't follow sports much anymore, but I like to plug into the joy and enthusiasm of those who do. (Does that make me a leech? Yuck.) Now I'm off to the Track Booster meeting. More later. Love to you all! Posted by: Diane on April 10, 2003 10:01 AMfrom IP: 24.126.195.102Hello everyone. Glad to hear everyone is doing so well. Throwing things at each other. Sounds like great therapy. I tend to throw dishes : (, so I had to give up my tendency to throw. Oh well, it's cold as shit here in Atlanta today. April my ass...it's in the 30's tonight...good god and by Friday it's supposed to be back up in the 70's. I hate these fluctuations they make me sick. Seriously. Well guess I better hit the sack. The mansion calls in the morning, and then I do hair in the afternoon. While we were gone tonight, my niece babysat our kids. The pizza guy delivered dinner for the kids (dont'cha love that) and he gave my niece his number..she gets all gooey eyed and then he says I really want to buy your uncles Bug. I have a 1971 Convertible VW Bug. It needs repairs and of course now I don't have it to repair it, but hard hard choice. to sell my big boy toy or keep it. Probably sell it, wait for better times and buy another one. Thank God this war appears to be over. Maybe the losses are at there limit and some true changes will now take place. I know you're excited Aunt Mil. Peace and love guys. Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on April 10, 2003 12:19 PMfrom IP: 216.78.38.139!!!it's getting hot in here!!! thanks to kat and enzzzzo - either that or kat's *grinn* means something else entirely and i better get back to ducking the crabapples and leave well enough alone!!! sherrlyn, you cracked me up-sorry, can't quit laughing - it's not only the busiest time of the year for you but having to deal with a 14-year old kid trying to proselytize - you're right! the kid needs a girlfriend or a pet - sounds like some demented teen movie that you wandered into!!! Not much longer girl, April 15..do they give you the following day off? later all... Posted by: bluedog on April 10, 2003 12:22 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30muhahaha bluedog: my grinn is simply a happy grinn..nada mas o no. *wink* enzzzzo: i was hoping q could remain "q"uiet..lol Peace Inn baby!! Hope yer week's going well. I'm maybe heading up to the Olympic Peninsula this weekend w/my bud. Possibly the rainforest..Hall of Mosses, some nice old growth forest, etc. So even if it's raining..it should prove interesting. We have to take a ferry over so that will be kinda cool too. I'm looking forward to it. Hugz to all at PC today/tonight. Innussiq, Michelle, Whitney, Millie...Thanks for the hugs! Diane...Belated anniversary greetings! Peace and spring are getting closer, Linda PS to Michelle...Go Cubbies! Heavens knows the Tigers are not moving. Posted by: Linda Thomas on April 10, 2003 07:21 PMfrom IP: 216.93.26.148Yes, Diane dear, "tuchas" is fine, and very elegant to describe what our Timbo delicately calls "my ---!" We must continue to exibit rigid decorum, for there are new, lovely, young people on the Corner, and we don't want them to think that we are a bunch of degenerates, so SHAPE UP EVERYONE! (And that goes for me too...I'm working out at the gym since last week and haven't lost an ounce!) Your everlovin' Grandma-Auntie Mame..oh, excuse me, Auntie Mil Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 11, 2003 01:11 AMfrom IP: 209.86.187.98i guess this means no more crabapples. Have a good day everyone. *smile* Auntie Mame...hahahahaha...gods woman, you crack me up. Whit - you totally reminded me of my ever-favorite Canadian band RUSH, and their song "Free Will" -- "Even if you chose not to decide, you still have made a choice!...and I will chose Free Will"...(omg, totally back in my pizza delivery, bowl tokin', high school years now) Oh, and woops! Millie wanted us to clean up our acts for the new folks. Ah well...TAKE ME OR LEAVE ME! hahahahahaa... My god, I am totally out of control today. Too many meetings. And then I emerge to beer chastisement (oh, Evelyn, hahaha...sorry love, but THAT was quite the target!) and crabapples. My brother used to whip those at my friends and I as we would ride our bikes down the street. Jerks. HE also shot my friend, Holly, in the leg with a bb gun as she was riding her bike. He's such an ass. Ok, it is actually 50 degrees today and sunny. Yes there's still snow on the ground, but hell, I live in freaking Rochester,any day in which you can actually SEE the sun is a good one. I'll take it. I am totally keeping my mouth shut about religion and spirituality. Ya'll know where this heathen stands (what's that? another song's breaking through...Indigo Girls, "The closer I am to Fine...". I can't help it! I am SUCH a music slut. I have Sheryl Crow and "Baroque Masterpieces" vieing for the next time the CD drive opens. Rachmaninov makes me sob. Loreena McKennitt makes me horny. Bagpipes make me want to stand and fight, you burly cur! I guess I am just very easily swayed, is all. ;-) Good thing I have Belly Dancing tonight! Going, going....(poof!) PS. Kat and enzzzo...youse guys gonna fess up or WHAT? ;-) And where is our lovely web-Mistress, Cat? Miss you, dahlink. Posted by: Dhiana on April 11, 2003 02:32 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59Hey Goddess Dhi: lol..nothing to fess yet It's so weird cuz I was just gonna post and ask everyone what they each have queued up in the CD currently and then poof there's ur post with a few excellent choices. cool! currently Im am listening to a CD of Brazilian music and it's taking me away....it's sooooo gorgeous, lilting, ethereal. A friend from Brazil who lives in Holland just sent it to me and I haven't had it out of the CD for days. anyone else listening to anything interesting? Hugz, Yes, Katalina, while pedaling my brains out at the gym, I listen to the music of that dinosaur, My favorite selection of his is called "Flamingo", (a rhumba) and I visualize Scott dancing with Fran behind the curtains, Peggy Fleming and Kristi Yamaguchi skating at their magnificent best, Love, Grandma Posted by: GRANDMA MIL on April 11, 2003 03:20 AMfrom IP: 209.86.185.185I'm hoping to be post 100...did I make it? Hi All. Still cold here, but not so bad today. Hi Katalina, just wanted to share this with you.... Casa—Morelenbaum/Sakamoto
from www.jazzweek.com bye, Enzzzo: Bonita was the one song I really clicked with!!!! I've been singing it in my head all week now...so lovely. * shall i be the cloud for you...bonita?...*
Grandma: thx for sharing..I don't know Montavani, but will be looking it up. I like Heifitz (& he was long before my time) tho..LOL..so there are some oldies but goodies that i appreciate.. Oh i know what i was gonna say..I just recently watched Kristi Yamaguchi perform a flawless, intriguing performance to a musical piece that I have adored for a long time by Peter Gabriel from his Passion albumn. It has middle eastern undertones in the music and it's very haunting and powerful and entrancing. She really used her sense of flair, and drama right down to her facial expressions so perfectly with the piece. Anyone else see this? Hugz, Totally off subject I guess...but just got my email from tvminder.com that SB is showing on Starz and Showtime today and tomorrow at varying times. I have it set to clue me in anytime Paul is in a movie. Cool huh. Hope everyone is having a great day...getting ready to do the treadmill. I listen to the Moulin Rouge CD while I walk (fast) for 30 minutes. I'll try and keep it cleaned up some for the younger viewers here, but I let it all hang out in front of my own children, they know I'm no saint. And don't believe in them....hahahahahahahahhahaha. The religious sparks in my house are just too much to go into. Best to just keep it to yourself and if someone probes too much...tell them to back off. Later. Peace and love to everyone Music I've been listening to: Joey Ramone's solo CD that came out right around the time he died. His cover of "What a Wonderful World" is so kick-ass. If you're ever having a bad day, put that on and try to stand still. I'm also listening to Dire Straits first album. "Down to the Waterline" and "Wild West End" are two of my favorite songs. Also various Van Morrison CDs and Cat Stevens as well. I don't know if we're allowed to post websites here, but if you go to www.joeyramone.com you can watch the video for "What a Wonderful World". The boy in the video really looks like my son Chris. Michelle/Chicago Posted by: Michelle on April 11, 2003 08:25 AMfrom IP: 12.250.82.140Eva Cassidy gets played heaps at home, moved over a little for Nora Jones. Got a cd full of great fiddle playing. Still like to play Jewel and Seal. Almost bought Eminem's latest probably will soon. Cant go past Cat Stevens every now and then, Yo Yo Ma ...... Music - Fantastic, Spiritual, Enlightening, Relaxing - a world awaiting our digression. Posted by: Paul on April 11, 2003 09:10 AMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221Eva Cassidy and Norah Jones are great! It is sad that Eva Cassidy wasn't recognized greatly until after her death. My favorite singer is Josh Groban. His songs really touch my soul, especially a song called "To Where you Are." It is about dealing with the loss of someone. It talks about that person being gone, and how someone longs to see them again. It also says that the person is still with you, in your heart. If you have lost a loved one, it will give you comfort. I learned that after I recently lost my grandmother. Posted by: Jenny on April 11, 2003 09:47 AMfrom IP: 65.26.192.187Good evening Grandma and All! Where have I been? So many posts! Sherrlyn, couldn't you just explain that it's a very personal aspect of any person's life and that you just want to keep it personal? You certainly wouldn't want anything you said on such a heavy topic, to hurt your job in some way. enzzzzo, cut it out! I blushed and I can't even read Spanish! Katalina, you lucky girl! ;) I wish more people would use art just for themselves and their personal exploration of ideas and emotions. Hi Linda. Tell us what's up. Any new prospects? Grandma, I don't know what I would do if I couldn't come to the Corner and read Tim's post in which he states "April my ass!" or read that Dhiana considers herself a "music slut". I'm keeping in mind that we have a few young readers, but we have to respect the civil rights of everyone. This site isn't rated for kids so if her parents wanted to keep her away from it all they have to do is set the filter on their computer. We have to have a place where we can be ourselves and there's a bit of the saint as well as the degenerate in all of us (just a little bit!). I'll try to behave though, if you feel strongly about this. Hey Dhiana. I'm a Rush fan too. 2112? Katalina, your description of Yamaguchi's performance made me wish I'd seen it. I love the music of Peter Gabriel. That would have been something to see as well as hear. Tim, thanks for the tip on SB's show times. I checked on buying the dvd the other day and they wanted $30 for it!! If Paul made any money from the sale, I'd buy it in a heart beat. They think they can get more cash now because of Baz' fame, but we know who the real star is! At least the recent interest in SB is introducing more people to Paul's work. Michelle C, I'll have to check out Joey Ramone's solo CD. I saw the Ramones while attending Ohio University in Athens Ohio. I'll check out the Web site. My necks getting stiff; it's time to get off the computer. Good night to some. Good day to others. Love to All, Hi all! Hey Tim, saw Varekai in Quebec City last summer. Loved it! Katalina cool question. Whenever I have to get work done or work out I crank up Oingo Boingo, my all time favorite. So Oingo's in my headphone cd, and on the carousel is a combination for everyone in the house. Goo goo dolls, Avril, Allison Kraus, and the the Pirates of Penzance set. Dhiana, it's funny what you said about Loreena McKennitt, my husband had the same reaction when he was a teenager acting on stage with her in Stratford (that leads to a very funny story I would have to get permission from him to post!) ¡Katalina y Enzzzzo, yo soy tan feliz que usted tenga felicidad uno con el otro! ¡El amor! Paul, can't wait to hear the news soon. Keeping close to home these days, luckily SARS has not come to Nova Scotia. PS.. I still love snow! Nothing like waking up to the new and clean world on a white winter morning. It's when it all melts that it gets messy! Call me weird, but Shoveling can be great excercise (withing reason of course). I love winter activities more than summer, no bugs! Take care all.
My list of music likes could go on and on but just a few..Jackson Browne, Sarah Mclachan, AC/DC, Garth Brooks, JoDee Messina, Billie Holiday, Rosemary Clooney, Dawn Aitken, Holly Cole, Paul Gross jees I really could just go on and on. I consider myself a bit of a singer so I like artists who are more about the vocals, (excluding AC/DC ha ha.) I love music. Posted by: Innussiq on April 11, 2003 11:16 AMfrom IP: 12.172.242.2well so much for rigid decorum, think it fell apart about the time dhiana, yeah it was you, hit the second paragraph! you gotta agree granny, we sure as heck (i can be good) wouldn't wanta stifle our dhi...nah, the young ones visiting here can handle it!!! right, tif, jen, robin?? We'll learn from you.. that's great news timmer- with sb showing on starz and showtime, m'curio is going to create another hugh buzz...fyi, m'curio - the stations are pay-for-view and very big in the united states... music, ah, music - like it all, but give me a smokey sax sound anytime... outta here... Posted by: bluedog on April 11, 2003 12:08 PMfrom IP: 4.46.229.30Someone is going to have to fill me in on the Katalina/Enzzzzo things??? Do we have a romance covertly happening in a corner of the Corner???? Posted by: Paul on April 11, 2003 12:26 PMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221Bluedog, I have a cd at home with a duet between a smokey tenor sax and a richly smoked up cello! Fantastic combo. I'll dig it out and let you know the name if you like. Posted by: Paul on April 11, 2003 12:31 PMfrom IP: 203.23.235.221Oh, no, Bluedog, stifle our Dhi, or anyone?? I have no intention!! I have been known to spew some expletives myself,(I'm married to an ex-Marine) and I love freedom of speech as long as I agree with the topic...don't take Grannie-Auntie too seriously, kids, I don't want to get thrown off the Corner! Inn, I have a large collection of Rosemary Also, Ella Fitzgerald is easy to "do" and her "Songbooks" with the best of Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, and Rodgers and Hart are amazing! Does anyone like Linda Eder or Diane Krall? We saw Linda Eder in person last year here in Florida, and she is better on her CDs than in person. She kept turning her back to the audience, was dressed like she stepped out of a used clothing store, and I think she forgot to comb her hair..I may be too critical, but the tickets were $50 apiece,(given to us by our children for my birthday) and at the end we felt "we was robbed!" I understand Diane Krall did a tour in Australia this past year, Paul and Peter. She must have been a hit! Posted by: Grandma Mil on April 11, 2003 06:44 PMfrom IP: 209.86.187.178Paul, I do believe a romance is in the ethernet. Maybe Katlina will clue us in after her first encounter. Good morning Mil. Good morning Ellie. I just had a bowl of strawberry filled mini wheats (couldn't find the appricot ones) and thought of my breakfasts with the two of you. I really enjoyed sitting with you guys at your white table, eating cereal and fruit, watching the white tv. I miss you. Michelle-NS, I'm with you on the anti-bug sentiment. I'm hoping we had a harsh enough winter to reduce their numbers. In the summer I have to wear glasses to keep them out of my eyes on my doggie walks. Dhi, you don't have to hide your goddess, you sweet pagean you. I took an "Art of Ancient Civilizations" course to a woman who was well versed on the goddess and her history. According to my teacher, many early societies were matriarchial. Land was handed down through a woman's line. In fact, to become a king one had to marry a queen. Of course men changed all that. Professor Jackson also gave men credit for the first use of a tool as a weapon of destruction. According to her a tribe of men known as the Vandals were the first to use knives and weapons for killing people. Women had only used them for butchering animals and completing other essential tasks in the preperation of food as well as the construction of structures. I confess, we openly male bashed the whole semester! I felt sorry for the few guys in the class (sort of). Worthy is getting impatient. Music-hmmmm-the incomparable Leon Russell-"If the shoe fits"-perfect for a bad mood. Throw in a little "Amazing Rhythm Aces"-The original "Third Rate Romance", singing at the top of my lungs-"there must be 50 ways to leave your lover" and "Cadillac Ranch". Digging out Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina-"Full Sail", and singing the full score of "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat". Posted by: on April 12, 2003 02:54 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131Music-hmmmm-the incomparable Leon Russell-"If the shoe fits"-perfect for a bad mood. Throw in a little "Amazing Rhythm Aces"-The original "Third Rate Romance", singing at the top of my lungs-"there must be 50 ways to leave your lover" and "Cadillac Ranch". Digging out Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina-"Full Sail", and singing the full score of "Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat". Posted by: on April 12, 2003 02:54 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131im writing down all kinds of music now... hold up...i always begin with friendship. LOL How bout them Cubs? (our poor Mariners lost to the Angels...) BTW: bluedog...do you like Candy Dulfer? I have her Sax a Go Go CD....I was hooked.
Not only did I post twice-about Leon Russell, I forgot to put my name on it! The boss was coming in...... Posted by: mary ellen on April 12, 2003 03:35 AMfrom IP: 66.233.146.131i forgot who our resident Juicer was... apple, pineapple, mango puree, kiwi, banana, powdered spirulina, chlorella, broccoli, green tea extract, sponach, barley grass, wheat grass, blue green algae, echinacea extact and odorless garlic. all mixed in one green semi-stinky drink. my english/irish/finnish family would be rolling the eyes and turning up noses. LOL hee hee, ME THINKS SUMTHINS UP ON THE ROMANTIC CORNER TOO ONLY I NO SPEAKA SPANISH Posted by: Tim Hord on April 12, 2003 05:01 AMfrom IP: 216.78.45.150Romance? Hmmmm. Way to deflect Kat. The Cubs are doing fine. I get the feeling you're trying to change the subject???? Love to the Collective Corner, Michelle/Chicago Tim: i take the 5th! *wink n a grinn (Halo present)* Hey Everyone, It's about 72 degrees and sunny in So. Cal.!!! hahahah Just kidding, more later but had to add this, Whitney, I got SB a couple of years ago on Half.com for about 10$. I checked a couple of months ago for a friend and same price. Just a thought. You can get a lot of good stuff from half.com and avoid all the bids like on ebay. HOpe you get something wonderful. Especially SB!!!! LOve to you all.... Margie PS 14 year old know and say and even do alot more than I did at 14.. My 12 year old suprises me all the time. Posted by: Margie on April 12, 2003 05:41 AMfrom IP: 66.27.220.210Lemme see ur curveball Michelle! Kat Posted by: Katalina on April 12, 2003 05:43 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.124 i bought SB on ebay for $5.00/shipping was $6.00. Whit-2112 in the BATHTUB, baby! Mary Ellen - oooof! Busted! You go girl. minimize, minimize, minimize! Paul, darling (;-) what's the fiddling CD? I've got such a wide variety of fiddle stuff, (Ashley McIssaac to oh-be-still-my-beatig-heart, Alistair Fraser to the Appalachian CD that Yo-Yo-Ma | |