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Sunday, 19 October
article: week later

Part of me cant be bothered actually responding to the article. Its out there, people have read it and probably forgotten it by now. They have read whatever feature was in this weeks paper and that is it. But - I do want to make some comments and that is the part of me sitting here right now.

A lot of people have told me how good it was etc how honest, brave etc Yeah - you know me, tell it like it is without fear or favour or so I try. Someone actually said to me that they hoped I was happy with it. This made me think - why would I be happy with it? I think the journalist wrote a good article and got most of it right. Sorry Katrina but you didnt quite get it all right and I will address those bits in a minute. But why should I be happy. It is not a story that makes me feel happy and in fact afterwards I felt quite down and a little defeated by my story, more so because it is 'our' story - the story of an actor. It is also a bit of a rollercoaster ride. When I read it I felt quite removed by the fact it was my story and I guess by being back from it, it gave some room to the slap in the face of the reality it is. Happy? Happy is was told.

Re: precocious or principled - The fee I asked for was certainly easily commercially viable (I assume) to the producers of the dvd. It was a fair and equitable acknowledgement of the business side of things. What I mean is that after doing freebies to promote the film and their careers (and mine but often to a negative result ie the dancer guy) and after the film had grossed probably in exess of 150 milliion dollars I thought it only fair that I finally get paid to continue doing so. They declined as is their right and paid someone to blur my image. The fact that they never officially offered me any $ amount shows they had no intention of paying me nor in sharing any of the profits they may make on those sales. Smart business on thier part, they keep all the profits - except for payments to those other actors on points who I assume will get a share of them. Good luck to them. I hope they make lots of money. I would be happy to do stuff for them in the future - on a paid basis.

Re: Selling my Sydney Beachside Home - Let me be clear here - my story would be a pretty big winge if I bought my house from the proceeds of Strictly Ballroom. I was paid $35 000 australian to make the movie. Gave all rights up front and recieved no % points. I had to leave my job for four months prior to shooting the movie over seven weeks and then was not offered my job back (with Sydney Dance Company) for about two months after. SO do the maths - take out my agents 10% and spread the fee over the 8 months and I made $984 a week. Pretty good for a dancer earning $800 a week normally. But certainly not enough to buy a house.

I was lucky that after SB I did a couple of US films and one Aussie film that paid better than my first film and from those I was able to buy a house. I am so grateful for that and of course without SB who knows what would have happened.

re: the casting agent that doesnt want to be named - Gutless, gutless, gutless! I dont necessarily disagree with what they said because in fact it confirms what I have thought the majority of casting directors believe. But what is wrong with them not wanting to say who they are? I would have sent up a current video of my work! Read again what they said -"A casting agent, who does not want to be named, concedes Mercurio, to a certain extent, has been put in the dancer's box, but says his limited acting experience had as much to do with [his lack of roles] as anything" I dont know if they actually know what I have done since SB. Currently I have been in 11 feature films (7 as lead including being nominated as best actor in one) and played lead roles in 12 TV dramas (including being nominated most outstanding actor for one role and another TV film winning an Emmy award) mmmm....lack of roles?? Do you think the casting director actually knows what they are talking about? That is probably why they dont want to be named.

But wait, there's more..

I may not be the best actor in the world, thats fine, but I am a good actor and as for the range comment....how would they know? If it is the casting agent I think it might be then let me tell you that I have never auditioned for them for a feature film - never, and they actually have cast about 95% of the Aussie feature films over the last 10 years. I wont name who I think it is in case I am incorrect but if they wish to get in touch with me I welcome it. The thing with range is opportunity. If I (or any actor) am not given the opportunity to get in front of casting directors, directors and producers so that I can show them what I can do or even give them a glimpse of where I can go with a scene or a character how would they know what I am possible of achieving??? They may think I dont have range because they have never seen me in anything else - why - because they have put me in a box and decided that is where they like me to fit and they - I will say that again THEY decide what I can do without in fact giving me the chance to show otherwise. I believe that it is the casting directors duty of care to actors and the audience to grow, develop and nuture the talent in this country - both new talent and older talent. It takes nothing but time (and thought) to have people come in and audition but if a casting director (or producer or director) lazily subscribe to the pidgeon hole..... I guess ignorance is bliss and they achieve nothing thus our industry is floundering at present.

and...while I am on this subject, a casting director whom I do not know and was not given thier name asked my agent the other day after my agent suggested me for a role this person was casting said "Paul Mercurio - can he act?" This person should not be a casting director! It is thier job to know the industry and the talent and I believe the potential of that talent but then that would suppose the casting director would have to have some talent themselves!! Disgraceful!!! Imagine if I turned up to an audition and didnt know my lines or had no idea of the character I was playing!! Get it together!!! Nuff Said.

Re: The Full Monty - just confirming that I was not approached to play the role. I went through the three audtitions like the other guys and won the role fair and square. I certainly appreciate David's belief and support in me and am really pleased to have the opportunity to be working with him. When I read what he said it struck me how people with talent recognise the talent in others and are so often gracious in that. I guess the fact that they have been through the same mill has a lot to do with that.

Re: The Big Break - I'm smiling, I am singing, acting and dancing again and I am happier than I have been for a long while. That is a big enough break for me for the moment. What happens next is an unknown. I am looking forward to it in an easy and relaxed manner, in a positive and healthy way, knowing it will happen in it's own perfect time and for the highest good of all.

the journey has began



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Comments

*delurks*

It sounds very much to me that many of these casting agents are something like the head honchos of large companies: they know what they are told and base their subsequent decisions on that information, without ever getting their hands dirty with the real thing.

Mind you, I'm not entirely aware of what goes on in the movie industry. Do casting agents actually see the actors perform themselves, or is it more like a model agency, where they leaf through a portfolio of images and a list of the actor's body of work to date? Because that second method is no damn way to get along in any business, or to help anybody else get along.

Work should be hands-on, no matter what field it's in. Whether you're a director or casting agent, copy typist or admin assistant, shelf stacker or salesman; you have to *be* there and know your stuff. Nobody can claim to know their stuff just by giving something (or someone) a cursory glance and then saying, "Yeah, that'll do," or, "Nah, he looks wrong, and wasn't he that dancer guy? Yeah, can't act then, right?" etc.

I get exactly where you're coming from with the range/opportunity thing, too. I work full-time in a microbiology lab, and I'm also studying part-time for an honours degree. I keep skimming through jobs lists, seeing what I can expect to move up to when I'm qualified, and every damn job I see reads, "must have at least three years experience in such-and-such field." Well how the hell do these people expect us all to get the experience if we can't do the job in the first place?

Um, so yeah. Argh indeed on that one. That's a massive annoyance for me, and I can only sympathise with you.

I have to say this; I'm aware that you've starred in other movies, but I know you mainly from Strictly Ballroom, as do many of the other people I've seen popping up to say hi on this rather wonderful board :) It was one of those life-affirming movies, a real feelgood job that still never fails to make me grin like a lunatic by the end. But - and here's the big but - it's your 'biggest' thing to date in your body of work, and thus it's what people will always think of when they read or hear your name. It's a shame, but that's the way the human mind works much of the time: pure word association.

Let me throw you some famous names ;O)

Leonardo DiCaprio (you thought 'Titanic', right?)
Jack Nicholson (Heeeeere's Johnny!)
Gene Kelly (Singin' in the Rain)

While the fans remember and love the 'other' movies, the public at large will tend to recall only the 'biggest' movie. What really sucks, though, is that these casting directors - who should, let's face it, know their industry inside out - seem to know no more than that general public.

Paul, this is a wonderful opportunity that you're giving to both your fans and the public at large. To be able to give so freely of your life and allow others to give back to you is a fantastic thing. You know, there have been times when I've wished I could say certain things to certain famous people, whether it be, "oh shut the fuck up and get on with it," or "boy, do I *ever* know what you're going through!" but have never had the opportunity. So thank you for the insight and the chance to just pop up, say, "hi!" and then keep reading.

And good luck on your journey. :)

Karen
(who has a website, but won't link as it's not fit for human consumption during its current revamp)

*relurks*

Posted by: Karen on October 20, 2003 12:00 AMfrom IP: 80.46.221.25

Paul, when I read the newspaper article last week, I was impressed by how forthcoming you are, which I already know about you as you are incredibly forthcoming on your Corner and your response above just adds to this. I had wondered about a lot of these issues you address as well, and the judgmentalism that you have to face every time you go to an audition or simply putting yourself out there to get that audition, angers me. I know that doesn’t do you any good. I know this isn’t a perfect world, but when someone, in your case the casting directors, producers etc., doesn’t even bother to do their homework and your professional success, financial situation depend on them, this is just flat out wrong. One of the things that I have liked about your work (not that I have been able to see it all yet) is that you have done very different roles and I liked that, a lot actually. Yesterday I took a look at the Full Monty website and watched the promo videos. I laughed, you all seem so very funny and I wish I could see the performance myself. Your sense of humour in there cracked me up. Thank you! I sincerely hope that what you have posted here will get the attention that it should get and contribute to a much-needed change in your line of work. I shall send out a request to the universe on your behalf as well. Glad you are happy and content in your current journey and hopeful about the journey ahead of you.

How is Richard doing? I will include him in my prayers and to Richard: “I don’t know you at all, but I know that your friends and family want you to come back to them, fully restored and healthy. Take this time of rest that you need to recover and recuperate, but know that there are many who desire you to be a continued presence in their lives. Be well!”

Brian, firstly welcome. I’m glad you have had some better news on your Mum’s health and may she too be completely restored to health. And thank you for sharing some positive thoughts and good wishes with me. I really do appreciate it. Doing better with the student, after I noticed that I had totally closed myself off from the student because I’m uncomfortable with her view points, as I was raised in such a closed of religious environment and obviously have not healed sufficiently from that experience to be able to keep my emotional distance. Tim your “angry rant” helped me a lot too, as it was that precisely which put a mirror before me and allowed me to see that I was just about as judgmental as my student was and Diane, thank you for telling me to pull out emotionally. I knew that, but needed to hear that as well. I’ve been able to reach out a bit more to this student and s/he is responding much more and also more prepared. I think s/he got the message about what is okay and what is not.

Can I too ask for some positive thoughts of healing for my sister? I talked to her a little while ago and she’s undergoing tests for breast cancer right now. About 2 years ago, the tests came out clean, but right now, things have changed again and there’s reason for concern again. She hasn’t told anyone but me about it and for some reason doesn’t want to tell Mum and my other sister, because of the way they reacted two years ago. I don’t understand my sister there, but it’s her decision to make. Naturally, there’s a lot of anxiety in both of us simply because of this fact and also because of the many memories about Dad surfacing, as he died from cancer within 5 1/2 weeks of being diagnosed. We both know that these are two different situations, but the emotional response unfortunately doesn’t go along with this.

Diane, glad to hear things went well yesterday with the launch of your business. I did think about you yesterday and was hoping things were going well. May this continue and may you find joy and fulfillment on this new journey.

Tim, loved the family pictures. Your kids are very beautiful, as are you! No more putting yourself down and glad you stood up to your boss. Proud of you!

Got to go, but before I go, a special welcome to all the newbies: Pete, Mary, Sally, Karen, Stevie—hoping I’m not forgetting anyone. It’s nice to meet you and I hope to get to know you a bit more and to everyone old and new alike, have a wonderful day!
Love,
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on October 20, 2003 02:21 AMfrom IP: 134.84.254.217

Poor Paul!

You seem to be quite annoyed today about last week's article. I see your point, respect it, and sympathize with you on all points. But, let me ask you this - What is so bad (outside of being financially screwed) about being a one-hit-wonder? You will always be linked to SB, like it or not, for as long as you live and then some. You're immortal, man! When the rest of us are dead and gone, leaving no mark behind, you will live forever - be forever young. Your grandkids, greatgrandkids, people who aren't even born yet will know who you are, just from this one film. Is that so bad?

Claire

Posted by: Claire on October 20, 2003 03:03 AMfrom IP: 205.188.209.69

Hi, Evelyn. Pulling away is easier said than done. I'm glad it's working for both you and your student. Good show! I'm sorry your sister's test results weren't good. I will keep her in my thoughts and prayers as well. My guess is that she doesn't want to involve your mother and other sister because she doesn't have the strength to manage their worry and her own. My prayers extend to you, as well, as you stay strong for her.

Paul, I share your frustration with people in the entertainment industry who ask you to help them develop and promote their product(s) for free. My husband has done more than his share of this stuff, but he's not receiving a benefit in return. The prevailing corporate mentality is as true for the entertainment business as for any other. Every benefit is skewed to the top and loyalty is non-existant. My husband used to be treated very well on various projects. Then, as Allan heard it, the leader of the "mouse brigade" asked in a meeting, "Are we still giving comps to the fucking talent?" (Uhem, excuse me Mr. E., but the "FUCKING" talent is out there earning the money for your golden fucking parachute.)

My husband also really dislikes the constant schmoozing and butt-kissing that seem to be required to even keep your foot in the door. At some point, you have to ask yourself how far you're willing to go without destroying your integrity or undermining your self-esteem.

As I said before, Paul, I love your humility and honesty and courage. I think you are a good, solid actor and that your personal trials and tribulations are contributing to your growth as an actor. I'm glad you are now working with someone who believes in you. You certainly deserve that.

The comment by the unnamed casting director pissed me off, too. While I'm sure there are good casting directors out there, I think the majority lack talent and imagination and are not willing to go out on a limb. They're looking for "types" either because the advertising client has requested it or because they don't know how to reach beyond stereotypes.

As for the reporter, there are good ones who are looking for unique angles and can accurately present their subjects. Then there are those who just churn stuff out in predictable ways without verifying information.

Hello, Karen. As you move along in your job search, I hope you'll find some companies that are more flexible in their requirements. I'd say, if you think you're right for a position, send in your resume and see if you can get an interview. Even though it's an employers market, you may discover that the employer can't get anyone who meets their initial qualifications and do so at the rate they want to pay. Then too, a smart employer will recognize talent and weigh other factors, such as organizational abilities, in your favor. So your other skills and abilities may trump their originally stated qualifications. Good luck to you!

Even though it's Sunday, I do have work to do. Have a lovely week, everyone.

Posted by: Diane on October 20, 2003 07:28 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100

I agree with Karen and Diane. The Suits are probably too lazy to do more than read the label a movie role can attach to you. You would think they'd put more thought into these decisions. And I've seen interviews with actors who talked about strangers calling them by the name of the last charactor they played. I predict you'll hear a new name soon and more to follow.

I was watching "Sunday Morning" and one of the segments was about an Australian doing a musical. You can imagine my disappointment when it turned out to be about Hugh Jackman and his performance in the musical "A Boy from Oz" (I may have that title wrong). I know you would have been awesome in that role, but I think you're exactly where you should be right now. Besides, Hugh needs the dancing experience. He seemed a bit shaky as he danced his way down that staircase: a bit like a teen in her first pair of stilletos ;) And Claire's right; you're immortal. Unfortunately that doesn't pay the bills eh?

Ev, I'm keeping you and your sis in my prayers.

To Everyone, I send my love and happy, peaceful thoughts.

Good night G-maw.
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on October 20, 2003 08:19 AMfrom IP: 129.71.186.35

Claire, I agree with the idea of having left a mark on the world through SB. I am indeed very fortunate and have had an experience that many other actors will never get. I dont agree with your terminology 'one hit wonder' - I may never do another film that enjoys the success and popularity that SB did but I continue through my other films, TV, stage work and various writing and speaking engagements to make a mark on the world and to continue to speak to people on an important and positive level.

One hit wonder is often used as a term for a no talent loser who lucked out once. Thus far I have lucked out lots and am grateful for the opportunities.

Being immortal doesnt pay the bills, satisfy the creative urge to learn, grow further and do more. I have found some people want me to stay that immortal man - they dont seem to be concerned with the idea that life is about living, growing, changing and experiencing.

Lastly no one can know who I am from just one film nor from ten films - that is why I write here, that is why I do those type of interviews.

Evelyn, I am sending my best thoughts to you and your sister!!!

Karen my first thoughts were:

Leonardo DiCaprio - Romeo and Juliet
Jack Nicholson - One Flew Over The Cookoo's Nest
Gene Kelly - Brigadoon/American in Paris

Posted by: Paul on October 20, 2003 01:11 PMfrom IP: 211.29.77.193

Paul, I have always admired your integrity and will continue to do so.
As for the article, well..., we certainly do live in a fickle world. Many people cannot see beyond the end of their own noses, and probably don't care to either. Many will say whatever they need to, in order to invoke the response they require, with no further thoughts entertained, particularly with regards to the truth.
"Why not?", they say...others do it.
Sorry, it doesn't cut it with me either.

I can generally tell when someone is genuine and when they're "full of it".
On the brief occassion that I met you and you very politely and modestly introduced yourself, you presented a real part of who you are. Sure, it was only a small part, but it was real.
I recognised that particular virtue and was immediately impressed by your genuine nature.

I empathise with your feelings towards the recent article and will continue to support you, because you have earned it, just by being yourself.

I sincerely hope that all future ventures have outcomes which are more fair in every way, and fill your spirits and soul as well.

Posted by: Peter on October 20, 2003 03:08 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.64

Evelyn, I too send good thoughts for you and your sister. I hope it helps.

I was tempted to off-load a little something here, but I won't because it probably won't change anything. Perhaps that's my lesson for the day.
I am weary after slogging through a 90 hour working week and it has diminished my resilience somewhat.
Instead, I'll just get on with it.

Best wishes to all at Paul's corner.

Posted by: Peter on October 20, 2003 03:16 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.64

Paul, I think casting directors, in most cases, are like too many other people in positions of power -- they get paid to act like they know what they're talking about, even when they don't. Unfortunately for anyone trying to survive and thrive as an actor, that means they don't really feel the need to find out what a person can do just because of the size of the ever-refreshing so-called talent pool and because of the cookie-cutter nature of so much of the business.

I can understand your frustration about the piece. I think it's a natural reaction to the weird process that happens in the transition from "person interacting with reporter" to "reporter's interpretation of a collection of data points". But then I don't exactly believe in the truth, either -- we all have our perceptions, and in the end, we all probably lack accuracy (yes, that's my meager stab at being less of a control freak than I tend to be by nature).

What I think is important though is that the article shows you as someone who is committed, talented and unique. The details, while damn important in getting things done, aren't always so useful when it comes to moving forward, and I think the overall impression the piece created is both positive and intriguing.

May the next article be both what you want and what you need.

And to everyone, this is a remarkable corner of the Internet. Life brings us all a lot of strange challenges and it's always lovely to be around people, even virtually, who are challenging life back.

-Racheline

Posted by: Racheline on October 20, 2003 03:41 PMfrom IP: 24.193.98.3

Well said Racheline. I got an overall positive vibe from the second interview too. Of course it wasn't about me so I'm naturally not as aware of every level of meaning that could be interpreted. I didn't like the use of the word "precocious", but that was a stranger weighing the possibilities and I think s/he was going for a dichotomy of explainations for a spicy intro to the article. Even with its flaws, I think it'll generate much interest in the musical.

Good morning to All and as always, a special cyber hug for our Millie. I'm listening to the SB CD she gave me right now!
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on October 20, 2003 11:39 PMfrom IP: 129.71.190.246

Paul, since reading your post I have been very uneasy trying to formulate in my mind what it was that hit a nerve with me. Your frustrations regarding the interview/interviewer are just a symptom of the bigger problem we all face.

Now, forgive me if I make this sound simple, because it isn't. I think basically, people either live their life based in love or fear. And not to be snarky here, but this is not a reference to the SB theme. I'm talking about all of us who choose to exist making that one choice regarding our lives. It defines who we are. Paul, in your profession you seem to be surrounded by the fear-based personalities. Tim, you just encountered another one in your job. Evelyn has run into several this past year. I honestly believe we are all one or the other.

While your decisions regarding your career are SO based in love...for your family, for your craft, and even healthy love of self in the form of self-respect, there are lots of people in your business who have all sorts of motives we can't even begin to imagine. Power being number one. Money, fame, material crap, etc. Of course you can have all of that and still have love as your center! It's just that these assholes are so afraid of not getting there that they don't see how ugly they are becoming in the process.

A good employer realizes that showing their employees respect and paying them well will lead to MUTUAL respect and higher productivity. It seems fairly simple to me.

Yep, it's all about love and fear. And those of us who frequently beat our heads against the wall because we sense this "bigger picture" are the lucky ones. We have already learned that as fellow travelers on this planet we are all better off when we look out for each other. We know that we are all connected, and that helping another person find their happiness will be what brings us to our own. That is why it is so frustrating dealing with these sorts of people, because it is hard to believe that there are people who still don't get it.

Yeah, ok maybe I make it seem too simple. But I have spent a long time trying to come to terms with this in many different areas. Whether you're dealing with business, art, and especially religion and politics, you can sense right away where someone is coming from. If they imply that you're less than you are, that you should be afraid for some reason, or that you don't deserve the best, walk the other way. If, like Paul, you have to deal with them, then see them for what they are. Scared little bastards.

Whew! I feel better for ranting. Thanks for writing what you did Paul. By doing so you allowed all these thoughts that were dancing around in my brain to coalesce and be born!

In love,
Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on October 21, 2003 12:03 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141

To both Richard and Evelyn's sister, I send loving, healing light. May you both be well and happy!

I also just wanted to say thanks to everyone who wished me well in my stressful time with the Cubs. Wait till next year!

And Peter, please, off-load at will. I always learn something whenever you share your ups and downs with us. Don't ever think that what you have to say isn't worthy of our time, or less important than the topic at hand. We're connected now, you're stuck with us! So lets have it, Sir Intro!

Love to you,
Mich/Chi

Posted by: Michelle on October 21, 2003 12:16 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141

Michelle, well said. I agree it is up to us to chose how we wish to approach our every day lives - positive or negative (loving/fearing) - and yes it is often a real challenge to live the positive life when you are so often bombarded and surrounded by people who have made no choice either way but lean towards the negative and worse still to be around those who have made the choice to be negative.

That is why having a vent is a great, healthy and positive thing to do, get it out and move on!

Seeing people as they are is not always easily apparent but if in your loving self you can get to that place it certainly expunges your own sense of fear and puts you firmly in a loving space, a patient space and a freeing space.

Just a note regarding the journalist Katrina Strickland. I thought she did a great job and out of all the journos I have dealt with during my career she was one of the most fastidious regarding checking facts etc Stuff always creeps through and when she would call to check certain facts some of the other minor points slipped underneath (and there were only those two I pointed out). I would have no problem talking to her again and trusting her to be the professional that she is. I wouldnt have minded if she had of balanced the casting director that wanted to remain nameless with another view from one that would have been happy to be named. That way the reader (and I) may have got a more balanced view of it. But then that is my ego talking.

Posted by: Paul on October 21, 2003 08:04 AMfrom IP: 211.29.77.193

Paul, It's only fair and reasonable to wish to see a balanced view. I don't think it is in any way egotistical to want credit when it is due.
If you think that you should be given credit, then freely take it, because you are the best judge anyway, and you should have it.

Michelle, Thanks for that.
Offloading: I travel north about every two weeks for my work. I usually stay a couple of nights.
I have to pass close to where my birth mother lives. A diversion would add loads of time to the trip and would probably make me think of it more. It seems that I just can't get it out of my head (my experiences with her). This is no doubt due to what had happened long ago. It seems that there's a load of stuff in my subconscious that just won't resolve, well at least not yet.
I wish that I could just turn it off. I try to block it, but it's just too damn big.
I refocus, I move on, but it's always still there.

I suppose I'll eventually sort it out.
That's all.

Posted by: Peter on October 21, 2003 04:11 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.242

Hello to all.
first a big hello to grandma millie! sorry i haven't been able to respond to you earlier--i hope your are well and i will be sending you a long overdue email soon.
i wanted to address a comment i read earlier.
with respect--i was surprised to read someone writing negative comments about the footage they saw on Hugh Jackman regarding 'THE BOY FROM OZ'. Regardless of Paul's ability to play the role--i think we all agree on Paul's incredible talent--is it necessary to break down one performer to build up another?
Paul seems to write on the importance of keeping
up one's spirit,withstanding the judgments of others-I think we can all take a page from his book.
And from someone that has seen the show--Hugh needs no help with his dancing.

Posted by: greg on October 21, 2003 07:20 PMfrom IP: 66.108.109.135

Greg, I'm entitled to my opinion as are you. If you want to say something negative about my perception and description of Hugh Jackman coming down the stairs I'm sure it's just an expression of the truth as you see it. My statement was the same. I'm not going to let your criticism keep me from speaking my thoughts. I love Hugh Jackman and have said so in previous posts. He can definitely shake his ass, but he's no Paul Mercurio. Censor yourself and write what you feel comfortable writing. I felt fine expressing my opinion and I'm not worried about what you think.

Good morning Grandma and All.
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on October 21, 2003 10:18 PMfrom IP: 129.71.185.171

whitney-wow,what an aggressive post. you sound quite defensive.
you missed my point.
the fact that you're still comparing who is the better performer shows you really missed the point.
i'm quite aware that people have varried tastes and opinions- it would be ludicrous to have the yours/mine debate.the question of who is better is moot. it's quite obvious that wasn't my intention. i didn't want to 'say something negative about your perception and description of hugh'. i was speaking to the fact of breaking someone down to build up another. putting someone down to make another feel better. you see it in life, in the entertainment industry, the work place, school. i was stating that i was surprised to read it here. not saying you were wrong or right, that you should be censored or not entitled to your opinion.
i asked a question-is it necessary to break down one performer to build up another?
i also found irony 'that you're not going to let my critism keep you from speaking your thoughts'.interesting.

Posted by: greg on October 22, 2003 07:19 AMfrom IP: 66.108.109.135

Paul, I've just caught up regarding your friend Richard.
Sending positive thoughts his way.

Posted by: Peter on October 22, 2003 07:21 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.23

Paul
Your response to the article is very well stated and exemplifies once again what I find so appealing about you as a person. You are REAL. You invite us into your life and we share your ups and downs. I've known no other actor/actress to do so. I met many while working in L.A., but in most cases they all were very superficial and lacked any heartfelt substance. When I read the article I saw a real person out there. Granted your professional career has not careened to the level of Jack or Meg Ryan or ...the list goes on..but on the other hand would that be you? Life has a purpose for each of us. I used to think mine was going to be as a successful businessman living in my 5 bedroom home in a gated community driving a mercedes, sending my children to private school and having a beach home. Look at me now. I'd still love the house, but I'm not that type of person. I'm creative, and I enjoy being different. I enjoy being able to wear sandals to work some days. I like coloring my hair auburn and spiking it up if I want to. I like being able to wear earrings and have a tattoo. I like being me. My track record sucks in the public view. The women I work on many of whom are my age and live in the large fabulous neighborhoods and have diamonds that need cranes to lift them would see me as a total failure. But I'm not. I'm me. My life has been my life. As far as anything associated with the corporate world..expect nothing and you won't be disappointed. It's all about the bottom line. Who is "IN"? right now. How's it going to do at the box office. Thank goodness for Robert Redords Sundance festival allowing people to express themselves in film and try new avenues. It's not always about money. Hollywood is. Corporate america is. The medical industry in our country is owned by corporate america. So unless the insurance company says you need something youwill have to do without or pay out of pocket for it. It goes against the hypocratic oath the doctors take, but they are "boxed" in by corporate america now. They can't just say..I have to save this person... I have watched you in different movies and I find your acting dimension to be very diversified. Let me give you an example. SB..you're a dancer and a damn good one at that. You slowly fall in love with someone assumed to be less loveable because of where she is from and who she is. Very believable. Exit to Eden..very out there, but so were you. You put on a great half and half accent, which would be expected from someone that moved from Australia to America permanently at a certain age. You rough and tumbled. You got on a runway almost naked and laughed your way through it. Joseph. A biblical character that demanded a heartfelt approach to the piece and at least a sure understanding of the whole picture of that bible piece. You did it. 3 very very different parts and all done exceedingly well. In addition you had no characteristics that showed up each time. Here's my big point...Meg Ryan..always has a certain way she moves her body in every movie she makes. Certain laughs, certain emotional displays. She doesn't change them to fit the character, the character takes on HER personal character. Julia roberts..she can only kiss with her eyes closed. Always the same laugh. To me an actor that can truly offer a full range of emotion and change of character is in fact an actor/actress. Some I like..Ewan McGregor, Nicole Kidman, Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep and Cher in Silkwood...it's "acting" personfied. Then look forward Cher in Moonstruck and Meryl Streep in Out of Africa.. That's range...And you've got it mate. No matter what anyone says or writes. You've got it and use it. TFM is going to give you a splendid opportunity to showcase yet another completely different character to display. How wonderful is that.
Evelyn...I'm hoping the best for you sister. That's such an ugly disease, but there are so many survivors of it even 2nd and 3rd occurences. Heads up!
My own experience has been very enlightening and definitely a growth experience for me. I wrote out what I would do in memo form. I presented it to the owner and said ..this is the hours I can work in each of these functions. This is therate of pay I expect forthe different types of work. He acceptedit. He hasn't signed it yet, but I'll get that before the week is out. I'm not happy with the lack of trust I will have now, but Iam so very pleased with my ability to take the shit and clean it off my shoe and keep walking. I told my wife about theresponses from here and she was so surprised I have such a great place to vent and talk.
Unfortunately due to the religious aspects of my family life I don't have any real personal friendships anymore. Work too much for one thing and eveerything else is related to the church..NADA, so you guys mean a lot to me. I can talk freely and listen freely here.
To all the new ones joining in...welcome. This has been one of the best resources for me. I don't need emotions anonymous or a psychologist at $150/hour anymore. I see a psych for my meds, but here Ifind a place to just talk and sometimes just read. It keeps me focused and keepsme real.
Thank you Cat and Thank you Paul.
To everyone else have a great week.
Aunti Mil and Whit..big hug
peace and love
Tim

Posted by: Tim Hord on October 22, 2003 08:52 AMfrom IP: 216.78.46.72

Paul
Stay true to yourself. Fu*k Hollywood. Make art.

Posted by: Dano on October 22, 2003 09:31 AMfrom IP: 12.219.195.151

Tim, Nice to hear it. Have a geat week yourself.

Posted by: Peter on October 22, 2003 11:18 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.107

Greg, we all benefit from encouragement, but my comment on the dancing ability of Jackman wasn't said for the purpose of "breaking someone down to build up another". The negativity was something you brought to the post. It exists in your mind: not mine. It's okay if Jackman can't dance like Paul. I'm sure he'll survive and Paul seems to be doing well also. It was just my opinion with no malice intended before or now.

Tim, it's so good to read your posts: very insightful. And I'm honored to be your cyber pal. I wish you weren't so isolated. It's regretable that your religion doesn't bring you into contact with some cool believers like yourself, but you'll always have us and I pray that God sends more faithful friends into your life. You're a lovable, genuine person and anyone would be blessed to have you for a buddy. Thanks for the hug and I'm sending one back to you.

Well, my dog says it's time to get off this darn computer and he calls the shots around here.

Good night Grandma, Paul, Tim, Ev, Greg and All.
Love,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on October 22, 2003 11:18 AMfrom IP: 129.71.187.161

It’s interesting that Hugh Jackman’s name should come up here. I’ve only been here a few days but I don’t think of this website as being about acting or dancing or (most surprising to me when I arrived) even about Paul in particular.

I think of it as being about making ourselves better people.

I’ve never meet Hugh Jackman, but I know people who have (not too surprising since he lived here for years). Without exception they back up the tabloid image of him being a genuinely nice, genuinely friendly, well grounded individual. He kind of reminds me of another actor that I’m familiar with.

Now if we were at a website about acting, I would have to tell you all of my great respect for Russell Crowe’s skill. That guy can REALLY act. As near as I can tell though (and I have NO personal knowledge of this), the man is pathetic, egotistical and arrogant.

I think Hugh is a good actor. I don’t think he is as good an actor as Russell Crowe. Others may disagree. The point is arguable. Is Hugh more worthy of respect and even admiration? No-brainer!

So I have a message to Paul: If, sometime in the dead of night, you find yourself defining your success entirely in terms of how others view your acting and dancing skills then you need to go and kiss your kids, and watch them sleeping, and stay near them until you’re thinking straight again.

Brian

Posted by: Brian on October 22, 2003 12:48 PMfrom IP: 203.59.125.251

Just now I thought to myself: "Gee, it's been quite a while since I slipped on the purple (purle) suit and ran a quick lap down the main street".
Then I thought: "You idiot, of course I wouldn't do that....my back is too sore. Time to pack up for the day and go home. Yay!". (And I did).

Goodnight everyone.

Posted by: Peter on October 22, 2003 04:26 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.77

pete, bummer 'bout the back! Bad business, all
around as it kept you from wearing the purple (purle) suit and giving the neighborhood a thrill!!!

sounds like you did the next best thing by packing up and going home!!! hope you're able to give the back a rest (your posts indicate you work long long hours)

later...

Posted by: bluedog on October 22, 2003 09:52 PMfrom IP: 168.56.106.198

LOL....ahahahahhaaa...lol...

Ah, yes, the "purle suit". It ALL comes back to that, no?

And Peter - that subconscious nagging of that one item, unfortunately, is there for a reason and will be opened and dealt with FULLY when the time comes. Wrap it in blue satin back there, so when you feel it at least it rubs you the right way. ;-)


Dano - righto, my friend.

Posted by: Dhi on October 22, 2003 11:40 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Thanks Whit...

Brian you are right on. You can discuss anything or debate anything but it's more about sharing our lives. Secondly you made an incredibly valid point to Paul, that is to focus on what is real when the unreal is making you feel bad.
In dance right now we're learning to spin across the room. This is definitely a sight to see my big ass rounding across the room, but the only way you can do it and especially me without throwing up is to focus...there's a term for it, but of course now that I want to use it I can't. Anyway you pick a place on the wall in front of you and always come back to it with your eyes. It works. The relative meaning here is to keep ourselves focused on that stable object i.e. the family and we'll stay balanced.

Later everyone..

peace and love

timmer

Posted by: Tim Hord on October 23, 2003 01:38 AMfrom IP: 67.35.32.189

Hello, Everyone:

I am SO glad I am a part of this community, whether I am lurking or not. There is so much insight, positive energy and love that I have no need to go anywhere else. Paul, thank you for having us here. The good you do just for me is tremendous and I see your good reflected in the others here as well. Thank you.

Tim, you have said a lot of things that I agree with completely. I enjoyed your analysis of some of the ranges Paul as shown in several of his characters. Right on the mark!

Brian, your words hit me, too. I especially like the point you made about kissing your kids and watching them sleep when you think you have nothing good going for you (not your exact words so I hope you will forgive me). Made me think of how lucky I really am.

To everyone else here, hope things are going well for you. To everyone who needs a ((hug)) or two today, please take one. I have lots to give out today. Take care...

Sally

Posted by: Sally on October 23, 2003 02:48 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37

Dear Paul:

I just saw STRICTLY BALLROOM for the first time and fell in love wtih Scott and Fran. I was so taken with your acting and especially, your dancing, that I had to look for more info about you.

Imagine my amazement and delight when my search brought me here to your website! I'm trying not to be the gushing, star-struck fan, but I must tell you I am impressed with all your accomplishments. I only wish I had known about them earlier so I could've gone along for the ride!

But, I see by your writings that your journey is taking you in a different direction now. With your permission, I'd like to come along with you, supporting you in any way I can.

Thank you so much for having this great place where your fans can gather and talk to you. This is an unique experience for me and I love it here already! Hope to stop by on a regular basis.

Karyn

Posted by: Karyn on October 23, 2003 03:46 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37

Hi Tim,
I had to surface on PC after your dancing visual made me laugh aloud!! I'm in the medical profession, so if you need any Scopolomine transdermal patches for your vertigo/nausea/vomiting issues, let me know. ;.)Keep your elbows up, head held high, and feet moving forward. Sort of how we need to go through life, no??

PJM, this is a question for you. A critic once described this actor/singer/dancer in these words:
"Can't sing, can't act, balding, can dance a little." If you can name him, know that you are in exceptionally rare and talented company when knucklehead critics start flinging bogus crap in your direction.

My perception is that a critic is a critic because what the heck else are they suited to do in life? Sort of the bottom feeders on the food chain.

Remember: The only REAL critics are a full house!!

Kind Regards,
Janice

Posted by: Janice Duke on October 23, 2003 03:51 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224

Bluedog, No worries, I've got a better solution!
I'll just wear the suit when I go to the supermarket. That should sort things out. Bewdy.

Dhi mon goddess, When the time is right, huh?
I wish it would bloody well get a move on. Damn, I know that you're right. Aren't you always?(feel smug).
I'll try the blue satin. So far I've enlisted the help of purple spheres, brilliant white, grounding and even mirror balls. Seems I've tried nearly everything. Maybe I'll have a go at Lego. Can't hurt.
Hmmmm, seems it may not be all external. Time shall tell.

Tim, Focus sounds like good medicine all by itself. Happy spinning. Do one for me. I'd fall over, fer sure dude!

Welcome Sally the Lurker, Karyn and Janice.

A good day to all.

(I can't stand to fly....)

Posted by: Peter on October 23, 2003 04:39 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.196

One last thought: ....the truth shall set me free.

I just can't work out what to do with it. Bum.

Posted by: Peter on October 23, 2003 04:41 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.196

AAARRGH!!!! Lost this the first time I tried to post it!

Peter, do you think all the issues relating to your birth mother are your "big life lesson" this time 'round? It's kind of like a land mine that you keep driving around, all the while knowing that to truly get past it, you'll eventually have to drive right over it. Is this why your back hurts as well? Granted, I know you have other physical issues that could be the cause, I can't help wondering if there could be some connection to carrying this burden? I find your story so compelling, and I feel such empathy towards you for the pain this has caused you. At the same time I wonder if you would be as evolved as you are in the spiritual sense had you not gone through such trying times. You can put a big "I" on that purple suit for Introspective Man!!! A superhero for the New Age!!!

My son had all four of his impacted wisdom teeth removed yesterday, so we are knee-deep in pain killers and ice packs. On top of that, both of my parents have had health issues come to light this week. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed just now. I'm trying not to be cynical, but I'm not exactly working with a positive vibe at present. I go on...

Wishing everyone, including the newbies, love and light. We are all connected you know. And what a good thing that is.

Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on October 23, 2003 05:35 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141

*delurking* to bask in the lovelight from PC...mmmmmmmmm.

I've been interviewing this week - got second callback for follow up interview today, which I completed. Decision to be made this week.

Asking for good positive vibes, prayers, wishes, whatever... for luck, success and to be where I need to be job-wise whether it's this potential new opportunity (which i really do want bad, and think could be a really good fit), or a better one round the corner....

Hugz,
Kat

ps Hi Inn, Hi Whit! (hug)

Posted by: Katalina on October 23, 2003 06:18 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

oops forgot to hug Tim, Peter, Paul and All at PC too...

(((((hug)))))

Kat

Posted by: Katalina on October 23, 2003 06:21 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Hey Kat!

Best of luck and lots of good energy to you in your quest for a new job. You deserve to be happy!

I was thinking you might have morphed into a beautiful mermaid with all the rain in Seattle!

Mich/Chi

Posted by: Michelle on October 23, 2003 07:29 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141

I just saw "Strictly Ballroom" yesterday and loved it! Very thought provoking; I wish there were more films like this. My three year old daughter sat with me and watched the whole movie! I had seen you in "Joseph", which is one of my favorite Old Testament stories; you did the part well, IMHO. I hope you continue to be involved in wonderful projects like these. As a teacher, I am looking constantly for uplifting stories to encourage my students to pursue their dreams. Thank you.

Posted by: Lisa on October 23, 2003 09:06 AMfrom IP: 205.188.209.69

WOW..How awesome all these newbies to PC. Welcome one and all. Hey Aunt Mil...haven't seen ya post. Hope all is well with you and Ellie in S. Florida.

The word I was looking for earlier is to spot. We did it again tonight, except tonight we added a shuffle in the middle of the turn. DamnI'm feeling like a dancer...LOL..But we are working on a little latin type piece it reminds me of the scene at Frans house in SB where Fran Scott and her dad are practicing. All I know for sure is..I love to dance...it's a ton of fun.

I had a client at my house this afternoon before class and I had the cd from SB playing. Cecilia is originally from Peru and she loved the music. She asked me where it was from and I told her. She had seen SB a long time ago and loved it. So I told her all the history of Paul and it was really cool to be able to unveil the soul of the show.

Michelle I do hope everything goes up for you. The tragedy as we get older is parents get older too. I don't really have that issue, since my mom died, but my wife does. Her dad at 70 is going to have knee replacement surgery in a couple of weeks. They're nervous because of his weight. He's a very big man 6'5" and well over 300 pounds. Anyway...I hope your son feels better fast. Mine only took about a week to feel normal again..completely.

Peter. Man I love to read your posts. Don't ever hold back.

I checked out the full monty website. Paul looks like you guys are having fun and are going to be magnificent on stage.

Well gotta go. It's 11pm and I have to be ready cut color and curl at 9am tomorrow.

peace and love to everyone.

timmer

Posted by: Tim Hord on October 23, 2003 11:01 AMfrom IP: 216.78.44.205

Michelle, I truly believe that my "big lesson" somehow revolves around my experiences with my birth mother. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly how, well at least not yet.
In a recent "vision", I was able to picture myself in a previous spiritual existence. It was immediately before I departed for this world. I saw myself, a slender, blue humanoid shaped figure, standing slightly away from a group of five or six others who looked identical to myself.
They were all very sad. They were apologising and expressing their remorse in advance for what was coming. They felt sad that I would have to contend with this particular reality. It was as if they were all crying together. We were separate, yet one consciousness.
I seemed to be quite neutral, in fact I was unusually detached. Pragmatic as usual, I suppose. During this vision, the term that came to mind for the new "existence" was "this odd displacement". I'm saving it for future reference.

I really don't believe that my experiences are the main issue or lesson. I suspect that they are only a vehicle. I am told by a number of professional therapists that those experiences were exceptionally emotionally traumatic in their nature. I can only take their word for it. I can understand it in an intellectual sense, but mostly I don't suffer anything, because, as I am advised, certain emotional responses shut off at that time, protecting me and probably preventing me from having a breakdown. The human mind has a wondereful ability to protect itself, it seems. I'm taking about the shocks that I received in utero, which I have been able to remember quite vividly.
The clinical history supports it. I also suffer from vitiligo, a skin de-pigmentation condition which is generally caused by emotional shock, or so the medical texts say.
Fortunately, (or not?), I don't consciously see it (the trauma). To me, my life is normal. There are some sadder parts, but it is normal. I don't particularly feel hard done by, either. There are millions of people worse off. Compared to, say, the concentration camp prisoners in WW2, this is a minor discomfort. My perspective has adapted me to this particular outcome.

The frustration comes from not being able to stop my subconscious mind from adversely and significantly affecting my energetic (emotional -nervous system) state of being, which results in constant residual muscle tension and regular spinal injuries. In each instance, there has never been any obvious physical cause of the injury, yet I have sprained my sacro-iliac joint five times. The third time happened while I slept!
I wish it would stop. I just wan't to be the best I can be, that's all.

Maybe this IS the best I can be!

I know this effect can be "switched off". When I first met my birth mother, everything appeared so joyous and wonderful (stupid me). As a result, my body "let go". I had no aches or pains, and my flexibility was unbelievable. Very soon after, as soon as I twigged to what she was playing at, the response switched on again and manifested strongly. It is still with me. Since then I have had several more back inuries, the first on the anniversary of first meeting her and the second on the 2nd anniversary since I last spoke to her.

Despite all that, I still believe that all this was merely a "toughening up" or "shaping" exercise. I believe that it will somehow be responsible for allowing me to perform
something(s) good in this life.

I truly hope I can.

If nothing else, I have formed the opinion that we, as human beings, must all hold something in our minds to which we aspire. Some purpose, some value. Without the forward looking and optimism, there is only existence, not life.

Sorry to hog the cyberspace. I hope I left some.
I feel self-indulgent having written so much about my experiences, but I truly hope that it will be of real benefit to someone. Perhaps it might even help me!


Cheers to all at PC.

Posted by: Peter on October 23, 2003 11:57 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.216

Grandma's here, Timmer, Grandma's here! I had not posted to this thread, for whatever I wanted to say was eloquently said already!

Janice, that quote was about Fred Astaire...he was 34 when he made his first movie.

He was not considered a romantic lead, was not tall, was balding, and "can't sing, can't act, and dances a little..." Fred would have been in awe of Paul's talent! See, the so- called "talent" agents were wrong in Fred's case, and it only took one film, "Flying Down to Rio" with Ginger Rogers,to jump start his fabulous career!

Irving Berlin loved the way Fred sang his songs, as did Jerome Kern, etc., and Fred did sing in many films, and then broke into his dance.

Lisa, welcome, I'm a retired teacher who rates "Strictly Ballroom" the most uplifting and beautiful film in many decades..I would deem it my favorite, and at my age, I have seen them all.

As a teacher, you would love this website: www.teachwithmovies.com. It mentions films suitable for the classroom, and "Strictly Ballroom" is among them...just go to "alphabetical order", (S) and find it...it is highly rated for children over 8, but it seems the little ones love it too! My husband and I retired in 1991, so I was never able to use "Strictly Ballroom" as a teaching tool, but the retirees here in our village just adore it, and keep coming back to see it multiple times in my film seminar. (5 times since 2001)

Fifteen of my "Follies 2003" cast and I entertained at a women's charitable organization yesterday. The club raises money for a village that houses children that have been abused or neglected. My singers and dancers were well received, and it is only the first of different venues in which we will be performing, until I start rehearsals in the spring for "Follies 2005." We have to be optimistic, right?

By the way, Inn, Ellie has another nickname...Janice suggested "ECFTM"..."Eye Candy for the Masses"....Ellie says, "thanks, ladies!"

Peace and love,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 23, 2003 06:05 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.118

P.S. Lisa, I just checked the www.teachwithmovies.com site, and it has been revamped...just go to "search" and type in "Strictly Ballroom"...that will be quicker!

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 24, 2003 12:16 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.118

P.P.S. www.teachwithmovies.com praises "Strictly Ballroom" as one of the 10 greatest movies of all on their list!

Grandma again.

Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 24, 2003 12:22 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.118

Grandma: I love Ellie's newly coined nickname!! ECFTM!! It was on the tip of my tongue to come up with Fred Astaire for that critic's famous initial impression before he went onto becoming famous...I was wracking my brain and got close...but for some reason Bob Hope was on my mind first, but I was getting closer...I knew it was someone from that era!

Thank you Michelle!!! No mermaid action yet.
But ye..that 5 inches of rain in 3 days..sheesh!
Incredible! Maybe I'll start hunting up pairs of animals (here come the animals two-by-two...lalalalalaa), and hitting the Home Depot lumber dept....Hmmm...How does one measure in CUBITS? *roll eyes* LOL

Kudos to Peter for that forward thinking approach and holding his purpose in mind and having incredible faith and positivity throughout adversity and tremendous challenge - be it emotional, spiritual, or physical. You seem pretty together and ahead of the game to me, Peter! I find it intriguing and valuable that maybe you feel these difficult experiences were important "shapers" toward your purpose? or Evolution of Peter? That you are possibly choosing (from before???) or taking part in being prepared for your important purpose here or what you will discover that purpose to be? I think that's very cool and have often wondered similar things whenever encountering people, life lessons/experiences that haven't "broken" me but have served to strengthen and prepare me for next series of "tests" or adventures and gave me the tools to deal with them, perhaps.
I dunno...just some ideas & I hope you don't mind me sharing. I just found what you shared meaningful (to me) in that way. I like the way you think about things. I think it's awesome that you are curious and brave enough to return to your origins to find answers along the way that could bring you closer to healing and purpose. *smile*

Hugz to the PC today.
Everyone gearing up for the weekend?
I may head to a local pumpkin patch for a hayride, cider, corn maze and slurpy, muddy, pumpkin-scrounging for the best one of course! I promise not to topple any toddlers eyeing the pumpkin i had picked out...scout's honor...(oh wait, I was never a scout!! heheheh)

latteluv,
Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on October 24, 2003 01:25 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

....*music playing from Peanuts' Schroeder's Theme.. (while toddler toppling, pumpkin wrestling, and slipping and sliding in the mud...oooh no you don't ya little booger...that's Miiiiiiiiiine...aaauuuuuurgh...)*

Just kidding.
I would NEVER do that!


mooohahahahahaha,
Kat

Posted by: Katalina on October 24, 2003 01:33 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Tim, thanks for the kind words. It does seem like I'm struggling with all of this and that I should just let go a bit, but that's easier said than done. I'm reminded that the joys of life wouldn't be as sweet without the pain, but I'd like to have a go without the painful stuff for just a few days. I'm working on meditative detachment, which I hope will help.

Peter, was your recent poem about this vision? Wow, that must have been such a powerful moment for you. But, regarding others suffering more in their experiences...that is beside the point, I believe. While their experience is horrible, it is theirs, and yours carries just as much importance when you get right down to it. I have a nasty tendency to compare myself to others, and in doing so I always find that I don't quite measure up. And it doesn't matter if I think they're better or worse off than me. I lose no matter what. I have learned that my life is unique in every aspect, and comparisons only cause me to doubt the reality of my situation. At least that is what I've been telling myself lately:)

I think I know what my big life lesson is, but am also not sure of what to do about it as of yet. It involves having a tendency to see everything in an "all or nothing" light. I won't go further than that now. But Peter, about two months ago I woke up one morning and the first thought that came to me was, "talk to Peter about your life. He needs to here it". And just let me say, it's hard having that powerful of a thought about someone and NOT KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE! I felt it so strongly that I got up immediately and found my journal to write it down. I thought maybe I had had a dream about you after reading one of your posts, but I couldn't remember anything. So...one day soon I'll tell you more about me. I'm not in a place where I feel comfortable doing that just yet. But know that I do learn from what you write. I feel better just knowing you're sharing this journey with all of us this time around.

Love to you all,
Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on October 24, 2003 01:36 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141

...why is it that the anklebiters, rugrats, kneenippers have the Best reflexes and most excellent center of gravity?!! jeez! *wiping face off, flinging mud and pumpkin leaf, wiping off pants from major splat! Anklebiter=1; Kat=0*

hmph!

Posted by: Katalina on October 24, 2003 01:39 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

{{Hello Corner!!}} I had a very bad few days physically, but I am back in action. Slow action but, action none the less. Sorry, I'm behind.
Tim, you are so right about popular actors making the role fit them instead the other way around. I'm sick of seeing the same people anyway. I just wish Hollywood would figure out that a good story doesn't need a well-known face.
Peter, you just keep on keepin on. I, and I know I'm not alone, want to go with you on your journey of personal discovery. Type out whatever you need to and I will participate where I can. Thanks for sharing. PS. send picture of you in purl suit. hee hee.
Hello Kat Babay! Hoping only the best on your job hunt. {{{{{{hugz}}}}}}}}
Grandma Mil, shall we go with "EC" for short?
Welcome to the newbies!
Peace

Posted by: Innussiq on October 24, 2003 01:42 AMfrom IP: 65.206.79.65

HI Kat! We seem to be in synch so often!

Posted by: Innussiq on October 24, 2003 01:44 AMfrom IP: 65.206.79.65

Grandma, your knowledge and passion for film never fails to impress or cheer me. You're a regular goldmine of knowledge.
And here's one you will especially appreciate: I saw Paul on TV last night. He was a guest at a "This Is Your Life" presentation for a long time friend who is a dancer.
Paul's comments about his friend were supporting, flattering, funny, natural, accessible and honest. He delivered it with a genuine passion and an exceptional level of professional presentation. I truthfully can't remember any person doing a better job in that situation, and I am very objective in my view.
Good one Paul.

Kat, Evolution. Yes that's it. You hit the nail on the head. Please share your thoughts at will. I find it very helpful. Sometimes things are right under our noses but we still can't see them. Your interpretation made me recognise something that I knew strongly at a subconscious level, but played down otherwise. Thanks.

Michelle, The recent poem was about the first moment, for the first time, that I saw the house that my birth mother lived in. It was my first contact, in a sense. I realised that it was no longer a dream, or concept, but it was in fact real. The first meeting was soon after, and it was also life changing. It changed my perception of things forever.

The comparison is subjective. I included it because, from my perspective it is probably true, however I fully agree with you. I guess I just didn't want to sound like a whinger, so that's mainly why I mentioned it. OK, you caught me out. I meant well!
True, comparison is meaningless.
Hey, a dream about me! Hmmm, must be something in that. Maybe we could both benefit from sharing your thoughts, when the time and circumstances are right. I'm glad you wrote it down. BTW, your comments flatter me! I'm sure I don't deserve it, but that's me all over, forever baselining myself.

Inn, thank you also for your support. I'll have the purle suit dry cleaned in preparation. Can you wait a few months until I get my old body back?

To all my friends at PC, your comments make me happy. Thankyou.
Have a good day (night?), one and all.
6:45am, time to start some productive work.

Posted by: Peter on October 24, 2003 04:46 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.21

Hey InnBaybaby! howzit going?
still clicking nails on desk, waiting to hear back. oh well this is just the first one so far...just getting out and polishing up the ole interview skills is a good thang. It has been 10 yrs. That's how long I've been with current division/company. sheesh.
thx for the good vibes.

Hugz,
Kat

ps..Peter, at the risk of feeling foolish, refresh memory about the "purle suit" thing?
i could go post hunting way back and back and back..but maybe you can save me time? i forget the significance of that. sorry. *big grinn n a hug*

Posted by: Katalina on October 24, 2003 06:41 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Welcome to all the newbies!!!!! Thanks for joining in and look forward as always to your contributions, rants and raves.

Trusting Greg and Whitney have got that out of their systems. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone is entitled to express it.

Tim, you beat me to the "spotting". Some ballets I have done you spot like mad but still get pretty dizzy but you cant fall over or wobble around the stage you just got to keep on dancing - life is like that too hey?

Peter, thanks for the comments re: This Is Your Life. Steven is a great person and a great friend, I am very pleased for him. That was shot in Feb Or March I think. I beleive I was wearing my perle suit beneath my outfit so as to give me the strength and endurance to face the cameras.

Posted by: Paul on October 24, 2003 07:35 AMfrom IP: 211.29.77.193

Hi Gran Mill,
I knew you'd know the answer of Fred Astaire. Just shows to go you that critics are experts in only one thing: their own opinion, and little else. Seems that your Florida Marlins, and my New York Yankees are even in our baseball world series!! We're just letting them get thisclose, then the FISH FRY BEGINS!! I know E. C. is a Yankees fan too!!

Kat, You need to have a battle plan including strategy, tactics, and logistics long before you get to the pumpkin patch girl or you'll end up being a trauma patient of mine! I'm on the Great War and a WW 2 site doing research for others around the world, so I'm up on battlefield maneuvers. The little pumpkin patch buggers can be vanquished!! I'm holding good thoughts of you in your job interview.

Mich/Chi, how's the weather there? I'm freezing my royal ass off in N. Y. I'm such a wuss when it's cold. Gotta move to a warmer climate!!

Peter. your stories touch my heart. No matter how many times life knocks you down, the only part that REALLY matters is how many times you get up to fight the good fight.My philosophy for life?? ILLEGITIMATI NON CARBORUNDUM. Then again, I'm a New Yorker!! I'll let the teachers here translate for you.

I just checked my shoe collection & I have a pair of high heels to match your purle suit. Hey, if it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother me. Then again, it may be more info. than this gal needs to know. ;-)Creates quite a visual though.

Inn. Hope you feel better. If not, see message to Timster below.

Anyone else watch SB dance sequences in slo mo?? Amazing stuff. The arch of a back....curve of an arm....angle of a head. I put being able to dance like that on my wish list for Santa. I hear him laughing already.


Know that I'm loving all of you through your day.

Janice

P. S.: Timster, I checked the trunk of my car, and have splints, boo-boo bandages with or without smiley faces, ice packs, slings, support bandages for ankles & elsewhere. Also have heavy sedation & wee-wee pads available for those really tough dances. They're not like making you do spits are they? JEEZ, that could really do significant damage that & may require more medical intervention that even I can provide!

J.

Posted by: Janice on October 24, 2003 09:39 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224

Too much interesting stuff to comment on right now. Really want to go sleep, and will in a sec, but before I do, I just want to thank you all for your support and postive thoughts for my sister. It means a lot to me!!! Don't have anything to update about that other than one of the preliminary tests came back okay, unfortunately, that doesn't mean a whole lot, other than that it could have been worse. The tests go on, as does the waiting and that I find very tough. But yesterday, I picked up a more hopeful vibe or energy and I'm calmer, as is my sister, Can't explain it, no facts to go on, just instincts.

Peter seems to have posted something long and interesting, can't wait to read it, but not tonight...

Love and good wishes to all and welcome to the new posters!

Posted by: Evelyn on October 24, 2003 12:23 PMfrom IP: 134.84.252.206

Hello to Lisa, Janice, Karyn, Brian. Howdy to all the regulars including some I don't see yet on this thread. Missing you, Linda!

Peter, I too am fascinated by your experiences and your observations on them. No need to apologize for the length.

Kat, I'll light a candle tonight and send "good opportunities" thoughts your way.

Innussiq, I think I've got a health candle here, too. Soothing vibes to you.

Tim, you are burnin' baby. So confident and energetic. Wow!

Evelyn, I'm still sending prayers for your sister.

Paul, how is your friend Richard? I'm sending prayers his way each night also.

Millie, I can't believe your energy and stamina. What an amazing woman you are. Elliott certainly is ECFTM, but I'll bet he has to run to keep up with you.

Michelle, I hope your son is recovering from his oral surgery. I had a four wisdom teeth remove at once about 17 years ago and it was still a miserable experience. Best wishes for your parents' improved health also. Comparing oneself to others is a trap many of us fall into. It's not hard when you consider that most advertising is geared toward separating "us" from "them" by way of whiter teeth, better cell phones, and sexier bodies. Our culture encourages division. I find that it helps to remember that everyone has their own doubts, insecurities and struggles — even when they're not evident, and perhaps especially when the person seems too perfect. There are a lot of people out there who have all the goodies, the looks and the arrogance; but are complete wrecks inside. These days, rather than avoiding those people who might otherwise intimidate me, I try to relax and be myself. When I make it my business to get them to relax, I always feel better after. I don't have any control of the final outcome, just how I face it.

I've spent weeks organizing school board candidates forums, the first of which was poorly attended. The second took place last night and the only people who showed up to listen to the candidates were a couple of spouses and a few other school board people. I guess people weren't "mad as hell" about anything. It was embarrassing and disheartening, but I didn't crumble in defeat. "Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, start all over again." What else can you do? You do what you believe is right and you give it your best effort. Ce'st la vie. Now, if I was a bigwig Republican is this big "R" town and my buddy Arnold had flown down from Sacramento to attend, oie vey, what a meeting that would have been!

Love to ya'll!

Posted by: Diane on October 24, 2003 12:38 PMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100

Good afternoon to all. I read the posts earlier and was commiserating with Michelle who'd lost her entire message before it was posted and damned if I didn't loose mine! My dog had already waited long, so I decided to take him out rather then try to rewrite my post from this morning. let's see if I can remember anything I had the impulse to say.

Oh, I did want to answer Kat's question about the origin of the purle suit. It was a typo in the word purple. Peter was telling us about his unusual suit and describing its color. Someone suggested it was his super hero suit and it has become an inside joke that you're now in on. A Latte hugz to you dear Katalina and congratulations on your job call back. I too hope the best outcome for you.

Hi Sally and welcome to all the new posters.

Lisa, SB brought me here as well. It's a magical movie.

Peter, I missed the post about the possible psychological origins of your back pain, but I've read about that as well. One writer suggested it had a special affinity with finqancial concerns. I also read a book called "Skin Deep" and it made a lot of sense considering our skin is our largest organ. It was the writers opinion that manifestations on our skin often signified unconscious concerns that try to enter our consciousness through our skin. Your post also reminded me of a subject I read a little about called Rolphing (sp?). It's named for its inventor I thing and the basic idea is that our muscles have memories and often store stress in them through the tensing of the muscles. Rolphing was a method of manipulating the muscle very deeply and painfully forcing a person to release what was referred to as muscular armoring. I think I experience it myself. My mmother mairried a man 12 years older than her when I was 5, He had never raised a child, but form my experience I imagine he grew up during a time when it was acceptable to beat children. He often grabbed me by my arm and to this day my left arm is drawn up at the shoulder muscle. I try to make myself relax when I become conscious of it, but I do it subconsciously. I wish you and everyone could at least get a relaxation massage once a week. My back doctor recommends swimming as well.

Michelle, I empathize with your son. I had my wisdom teeth removed when I was 18. I'm sure they discouraged him from poking the empty socket with his tongue. He doesn't want a dry socket.

Janice, as a visual artist, I agree with you on the issue of professional critiques.

Grandma, I was begining to worry. I knew you'd know who that critique was referring to. ECFTM eh? I'll back that up.

I'm with Michelle Chicago. it was only when I stopped competing with others and began competing with myself that I was able to end that endless and futile struggle. What a relief.

Hi Inn. I like an actor who goes out there and researches a role. I guess it's just like visual art. The more you observe, the more details you can present and the more realistic and beautiful a thing becomes.

Peter, thanks for telling us about Paul's part in the celebration of his friend's career. I wish I could see the program.

And Paul, I missed your post about your friend Richard, but am keeping him in my thoughts as well.

Janice, I've never watched SB in slow mo. It sounds beautiful. You sound like a very prepared woman. Too bad it's soo cold in NYC. It's like spring in WV.

Dear Diane, apathy seems to be a problem everywhere, especially in politics. I commend you for doing more than your part to bring rationality to what should be an important decision for these people. Maybe the few that attended will tell others.

Well, I apologize for making this so long. I just had to try and catch up with the Corner.

My love to Paul and All,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on October 25, 2003 01:55 AMfrom IP: 129.71.187.225

Long Time No Me

Hello to everyone old and new at the corner.

Grandma Mil don't worry I'm still alive and still planning to attend the November Shows with the famous Uncle George.

I'm on one of my contract work assignments for the next few weeks so I've been busy.

Not much else to say about my little world. Except my dog decided to designate one of my work pumps as a new chew toy. Great excuse to go shopping though.

Paul, I'm glad you got all that off your chest. Its amazing how journalists will interpret facts to make it into a "good story". It's about your life and they should be more sensitive about that.
Its good that you stood up for yourself and refused to be treated like a piece of journalistic meat!

And of course you can act! If you couldn't you wouldn't have done what you have done so far in your career. You definetely don't have to justify yourself. I think something simular like that happened to Dustin Hoffman years ago.

Anyway, I'm working on a new writing project and since I'm thinking about it, I'll create a character just for Paul in case one of the networks one day would like to make it into a series (in my dreams).

Oh no need to thank me its a pleasure. lol

Good wishes to all at the corner.

Posted by: Julie on October 25, 2003 02:24 AMfrom IP: 63.239.112.241

omg...i GOT the job!
woooohooooo!
Thx to all who lit candles, meditated, sent positive energy vibes my way or out there on this. It worked.
Lattes all 'round...
and of course group ((((((((hug)))))))))

muah!

Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on October 25, 2003 04:11 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Whit: thx for explanation of purle suit.
I loved it. I must have been wearing mine this week cuz it was sending out good vibes to others and keeping me positive and focused. It paid off!

Hugz back to Peter, Inn, Janice and Diane and all.
Janice: thx for the medical prep in lieu of my WWPWF (worldwidepumpkinwrestling federation) antics. I think all I may need to bandage will be some hurt pride located down under if and when i slip in that ole muddy field searching for the Great Pumpkin..hehehhehe

Posted by: Katalina on October 25, 2003 04:29 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Congrats Kat!!! I just knew you would get it! Now...what will you be doing to celebrate? Besides picking pumpkins:)

Thanks to all who wished Chris well with his sore mouth. He's still looking a bit like a chipmunk, but he doesn't hurt anymore. Glad thats over, and now on to the orthodontist.

Janice, it's actually been nice here, just a little chilly. You sound like my husband, he starts layering shirts in September.

I wish all of you could just fly in for some pizza and beer. Wouldn't that be fun? We could do the Ferris Bueller tour: Art Institute, Sears Tower, and of course hit a few micro-breweries for Paul. Hey, a girl can dream!

I've been watching the DVD of Jesus Christ Superstar (the new stage version) today while puttering around the kitchen. Jesus is unusually erotic in this version, and Judas is deliciously cynical. Very different from the way the characters were portrayed in the original movie. I've also been watching a DVD of David Bowie's music videos. It looks to me like Let's Dance and China Girl both have shots of Australia in them. Were they filmed there? Anyone, anyone?

Happy Weekend to all of you.

Michelle/Chicago

Posted by: Michelle on October 25, 2003 05:44 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141

Thanks Michelle.
I will find some way to get out and celebrate...maybe with a little salsa action at Beso del Sol...poor Alex has yet to dance with me...I've been too shy up to this point (stagefright) cuz he's really good and for some reason when I watch him move...I just..freeze up and stare...lolol omg helpless!...LOL
Plus dancing with someone you know really well is..uhhmmmm...well to me, it's Really personal!!!
Almost like "too much information!!" LOLOL
He already has my heart! Now he gets my soul? LOL hahahha just kidding. Why is it that we can sometimes let loose (in dancing or singing) with a complete stranger? Hmmmmmm...?

Hey BTW: i ADORE that new version of JCS. omg it is very sexy. I especially love that one song when the high priests (Caiphus) are at a high powered meeting and are singing that one song...which is kinda dark and has lots of interesting minor notes...I loved their version of it...It brought all over chills it was that good. Music does that to me! Hmmmmm I need to find that DVD. That adaptation of it was so durned sexykewl. I HAVE to have it! tee hee

Second to the Happy Weekend to Paul and the PC.
LotsaLatteLuvz,
Kat

Posted by: Katalina on October 25, 2003 06:38 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Just checking in to say Hello to everyone and to send you all good wishes.

Paul - lots of thoughts on your post. Many have been touched on by others here already. Here are just a couple I'd like to comment on. First of all - your request re: the DVD was, in my opinion, a just one. Your contribution to the success of SB can't really be disputed. The film is one of those that makes an impact and leaves an imprint. Your portrayal of Scott is pivotal to that impact. (I witnessed this again when I showed the film to my class of 11/12 yr olds this week.) You deserve to benefit in a more fair way from its success.

Secondly, in a way you could say that SB is just one example of an impact that you have made in your life. I'm sure you've made similar impacts on people when dancing on stage and when acting in other roles and I've no doubt you make/have made an impact on a more personal level with family, friends and just people you meet (I think of Peter)and that you will continue to do so. Apart from the fact that you are creatively talented which explains a lot of the first examples, I think maybe it might also be because you seem like someone who is 'fully alive'. You consistently come across as a person who embraces life to the full and looks onward and outward to what lies ahead.

A book that means a lot to me is Anam Chara by John O'Donohue and a couple of lines from it come to mind now:
'If you allow your nature to come alive, then everything will come into rhythm. If you live the life you love, you will receive shelter and blessing.'
I suppose what I'm trying to say is - as someone who seems to have allowed their true nature to come alive in their life and who strives to live the life they love - try to trust that everything will come into rhythm and that you will receive shelter and blessing. And may it be in a way that satisfies your urge to create, grow and learn, while being able to support your family. Good luck with your future.

To all those here who need healing in any way: Evelyn - You and your sister are in my thoughts.
Brian - I hope your mother will continue to get good news.
Innussiq - I hope the bad few days are behind you and you are feeling better.
Michelle - I hope things start to pick up for you and your son is recovering.
Peter - your story is incredible. I wish you healing in every part of it.

You are all in my prayers.

And to finish, Diane - I hope your business will thrive. Keep your heart up.
Tim - I hope things continue to go well for you.
Katalina - congrats on the new job. I hope it's everything you hope it will be.
And Janice - yes, I have watched SB in slow motion and yes, it is amazing!

To everyone - sending good wishes your way.

Mary

Posted by: Mary on October 25, 2003 07:15 AMfrom IP: 194.165.175.111

Mary - very cool quote and a lovely perspective, especially when put in motion!! thx for the words of congrats. I will carry my personal atmosphere with me in any place I go...this new job will be wonderful because I will go into it ready to make it so...challenges or no. I'm excited at the opportunity to be challenged and to grow grow grow (yet again)!

Janice - I've also enjoyed watching (in SB) Tara and Paul's MOJO in SLO-MO...lol
way keeeewwwwwl. Yes it is quite beautiful to watch..very articulate, graceful, passionate and expressive, right down to body line and facial expression.

;) Kat

Posted by: Katalina on October 25, 2003 07:42 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Congratulations, Katalina! Well done. And thanks for the hugs.

Michelle, I'm glad to hear that Chris is feeling better.

Thanks, Whitney and Mary, for your encouragement. I'm feeling very scattered and disorganized right now. I know it will come together eventually. For now, I want more moments of peace and calm.

Best to all!

Posted by: Diane on October 25, 2003 08:46 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100

Janice and Mary, how do you get SB to go into slow motion? Is it done with
the remote, or do you have an up-to-date TV with all those features?

Mary, those 11/12 year old kids were sooo lucky to have seen "Strictly Ballroom." I'm sure they told their parents they want a copy for themselves...lucky parents! None of those ugly movies that are geared towards them, but one that will inspire, awe, and adore for the rest of their lives.

Julie, will look forward to meeting your Uncle George and seeing you again next month at my "Sights and Sounds" program. The dates: November 4th and 6th. You'll hear from me before that...anyone else want to attend? All of you "chickies in my pen" are invited!

By the way, have you all seen Queen Latifa lately? She looks her age now,(about 34) since "Chicago" for she had a breast reduction, and lost weight...she's doing commercials and movies, and I keep her very much alive here in our village every time I lipsync "When You're Good to Momma" which I did for that organization last Wednesday. I had to cut out a few of the more raucous lyrics, though. I didn't want to shock some of the ladies in the audience!

Hope our dear posters that were under the weather a bit are feeling better.

Linda is probably in New York enjoying a well deserved vacation in the Big City. Yes, EC (Ellie, the "Eye
Candy" person, thanks to Janice) is rooting for the home team, the Yankees, for he was raised in the Bronx. I, myself, have become a fan of the underdogs, the Marlins. I will try to contain myself if the Marlins win...it's still our 50th wedding anniversary year, and I don't want to rock the boat!

By the way, Janice, "Eye Candy For The Masses" certainly could refer to the handsome gents on the Corner also...our Paul, Timmer, and even our Peter, who, even though we don't know what he looks like, expresses himself very handsomely!

Love and peace,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 25, 2003 06:02 PMfrom IP: 67.75.94.134

Hi Gran Mill,
I hit the PAUSE button on my remote & VOILE, then I could visually drink up each inspired move at its finest. AWESOME!! The intensity of look... movement of hair...acuteness of turns...gesture of hands...JUST AWESOME, as Mary already attested to. Then again, maybe I need to get a life and get out more!!

I'd need oxygen and/or be in a body cast for a year if I tried something like that. The remote PAUSES only for so long, then stops. So push the PLAY button again, then PAUSE. I'm not overly familiar with the manly art of remote controlling, and may be doing somethng wrong. I'm sure the blokes here can provide more detailed directions than I can.

Seems E. C.'s & my Yanks are backed to the wall because your Marlins beat us on Thursday. We have to win tonight & tomorrow in the house that Ruth built in order to win the series. But we're talking YANKEES here. It is more than doable!! The FISH FRY begins tonight in da Bronx!!

You mentioned Irving Berlin in your last post. How did you know that he is my favorite song writer of all time? But, I'm partial to a Gershwin tune from Fred & Ginger's 1937 movie "Shall We Dance":

They Can't Take That Away from Me

The way you wear you hat
The way you sip your tea
The memory of all that
No they can't take that away from me.

The way your smile just beams
The way you sing off key
The way you haunt my dreams
No they can't take that away from me.

We man never never meet again on that bumpy road to love
Still, I'll always keep the memory of

The way you hold you knife
The way we danced till three
The way you changed my life
Oh no, they can't that away from me
no, they can't take that away from me.
(Not without my lawyer anyway :-)). The words just speak to my life experiences, and touch my soul.

E. C. means much more than just how one looks. There is the intellectual, emotional, romantic, and spiritual components that together with the physical make someone E. C. And how right you are, the blokes here are all E. C.+++ It doesn't get better than them. It's the sum of the parts and not just what I see.

Kat, you go girl and make that new job yours alone. And I do have a down under hurt pride boo-boo bandage with your name on it.

Ev, you and your sister are in my thoughts/prayers.

Mich/Chi, I'm so layered out this thin gal looks like a house!! It's only thirty friggin'six degrees here today, and I have to go to work for the sixth day in a row to see patients. They're thoughtful though, as most offer this red headed human popsicle a warm drink to thaw out.

Peter, you seem to be giving far too much thought to my offer of my color co-ordinated high heels to go with your purple suit because you haven't responded as yet. I have shoes to match anything , so I gottcha covered, babe!! My favorite color is purple, the color of royalty. Sorta fits with my last name!

Whit, FAB sculpture on your site!! I read the title of your thesis and felt like the resident dunderhead on PC, because I didn't know what it meant!! Then I read it, and have some new insight. Thanks. So much talent on PC, and I humbly say that anything I do pales next to all here, but my elbows are up, head is high, and feet are moving forward.

ILLEGITIMATI CORBORUNDUM: Don't let the bastards grind you down!

I'm loving you all thoughout your day.
Janice

Posted by: Janice on October 25, 2003 07:57 PMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224

Good for you Kat! I'm happy things are going well for you.
Evelyn, I hope your sister is better. Sorry I didn't say so sooner.
Whit, I think and actor should research also. But I sure would like to see some new faces hit the screen.
Hello Julie, Peter, Tim, Grandma Mil and EC, and all at the corner.
Peace.

Posted by: Innussiq on October 25, 2003 10:41 PMfrom IP: 65.196.120.6

Grandma Mil - re: the slow motion. On my DVD player, it works by pressing the 'Systems Menu' button (a tool bar appears at the top of the screen), scrolling across and across again - until you come to a symbol something like a bow-tie on its side and then pressing the down arrow. You see a zero and to the right - fractions - one-eight, one quarter and one half. These represent the different speeds you can choose. The grace, elegance and beauty of the dance moves are heightened when watching it in slow motion, I think, as Janice and Katalina have said. Another angle on the experience of watching the film.

My class absolutely loved SB. I felt that they would enjoy watching it alright but I was amazed at how much they got from it. I had taught them the 'proverb' - Vivir con miedo.. - a couple of weeks beforehand and I really enjoyed watching their reactions when they realized it was from the film. We had a long discussion after it - well, they talked and I listened - and this was followed by a unanimous request to watch the film a second time. I had to promise that I would show it again before the end of term. I have been teaching this age group for a long time now but I can honestly say, that with each new group, I continue to be surprised, delighted and refreshed by who they are and what they think and what they're capable of. I think some of my best teachers have been my students.

Take care all.
Mary

Posted by: Mary on October 27, 2003 02:56 AMfrom IP: 194.165.170.16

Whitney, Thanks for the input.
I don't think in my case that financial considerations are that much of a concern. I'm just not that worried about money.
The psychological origins are probably better described as reflex reactions, or protective mechanisms (bloody strong ones, unfortunately), but sure, there definitely are emotional aspects, most of them subconscious, or so it would seem.

Janice, I'm not so sure the high heels would suit me. Heavy black boots with chunky bold buckels - maybe, no. I've got it: purple running shoes. Yes, that's definitely it. Looks and function combined.
I'd only trip over in the high heels.
Keep the high heels for your own super outfit.
(This is generally where Paul jumps in and describes the virtues of Wonder Woman!).

To all PC'ers: have a wonderful week.

My theme song for this week (and every week): Stayin' Alive.
(Apologies for being a young adult in the late 70's).

Posted by: Peter on October 27, 2003 03:45 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.63

I meant: buckles!
Excuse me, it's Monday morning here in the land of Oz and it's EARLY.

One step at a time.

Posted by: Peter on October 27, 2003 04:05 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.63

Happy Birthday today to our Evelyn! Hope the day is pleasant and that you get good news about your sister Iris! Love and kisses!

Janice and Mary, I now recognize the manner in which you get slo mo on SB.

I actually have been doing it for months, except I used my SB DVD and my computer. I use the mouse, and click "pause" on any scene I want, and then rapidly click "step"..I have been able to find all those lovely expressions, etc. and movements.

Contact me personally, and I will direct you to my artwork using that method.


Janice, I agree that EC "Eye Candy" includes all the attributes that our gentlemen possess. We indeed are fortunate! I alternate with "stud muffin" which never ceases to bring a smile to Ellie's face. You do honor to him, thank you! He needs a lift these days..his dear aunt passed away the other day at age 96, and the funeral is tomorrow. (Monday)

She was an amazing woman all her life...a master teacher of first grade teachers, the oldest returning graduate of Hunter College's reunion some time ago, a companion to Ellie's mother for years during the time his mother suffered from dementia, and a master bridge player and a New York Times crossworld puzzle champ. She got a computer at 90, got a high school computer tutor, and was on her way, and gave up driving her car when she was 90, reluctantly, but she knew it was time!

We visited with her once a week, for she lived in a retirement facility 20 minutes from us, where she gave seminars to the residents on card making and calligraphy. She sewed my Patsy Cline costume and Ellie's vest to match, and taught our eldest daughter in Israel how to use a sewing machine to bring in extra money, making wedding dresses! Needless to say, Aunt Sarah is sorely missed!

Peace and Love,

Grandma

Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 27, 2003 05:32 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.198

Hi Gran Mil,
Please accept my deepest sympathy on the passing on Aunt Sarah. She sounds like a great, talented lady who will be very missed!! How lucky you were to have her for the length of time that you did. I hold you & EC close in my heart.

Congrats on your Marlins winning the series!! They deserved to win because they played much better than the Yanks. That 23 yr. old little doll out on the mound didn't hurt a bit with his incredible poise and concentration. I'm very partial to catchers, so my other eye was on your Pudge Rodriguez. It's those great thighs in that crouch-me-down position. Tell EC that there's always next year!!

Mildred: English, means "Gentle."
Elliott: From Elijah means "Lord is my God."

Peter, I put my lavender running shoes aside just for you. I'd pay a buck to see you in these babies!!

Peter: From Greek meaning "A Rock."

Ev, HAPPY B'DAY!! You and your sister remain in my thoughts/prayers.

Evelyn: From Irish meaning "Life."

Miss Mary, good teachers are such a treasure!!..Thanks.

Mary: Latin, means "Star of the Sea."
Paul: Latin, means "Small."
Katalina: Greek, means "Pure".
Julie: Latin, means "Youthful."
Timothy: Greek, means "Honoring God."
Diane: Engish means "Divine."
Karyn: Abbreviation for Katherine, means "Pure."
Sally: From "Sarah" means "Peace."
Brian: Celtic, means "Strong."
Greg: Latin, means "Watchman."
Whitney: English, means "From Clear Water."
Michelle: French, means "Like God."
Lisa: Hebrew, means "Consecrated to God."
Innussiq: I searched high/low, & could not find the derivation of your name. Care to share??

ILLEGITMATI CORBORUNDUM.

I am loving all PC through your day,
Janice

Posted by: Janice Duke on October 27, 2003 07:54 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224

Happy Birthday, Evelyn! I hope you've had a delightful day. I also hope that those calming vibes you and Iris experienced mean that good news is on the way.

Millie and Elliott, I am sorry for your loss. What a blessing it was to have such a loving and vibrant woman in your lives. I'll be thinking of you all tomorrow.

Janice, thanks for the name meanings. I think I'll tape mine to my bathroom mirror, so as to remind myself to seek the divine in myself and everyone. (Meeting with another tutor and my first client tomorrow. Breathe. Breathe. Think divine.) By the way, I'm a Gershwin fan, too. One of my favorite CDs is The Gershwins in Hollywood, Hollywood Bowl Orchestra conducted by John Mauceri with Gregory Hines and Patti Austin. Makes you want to sing and dance and fall in love.

Sweet dreams!

Posted by: Diane on October 27, 2003 11:43 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100

Gram Mil-Sorry to hear of your loss all prayers sent your way during this time of grief.
Paul how is your friend Richard doing? I have not read all the posts I just know good vibes were being sent his way.

Hi to everyone and Dhiane thanks for the well wishes I am keeping a good attitude and enjoying my time off.

way off any topics above, but does anyone have any good baking recipes involving pumpkin?

Mercedes

Posted by: on October 27, 2003 12:43 PMfrom IP: 172.137.43.48

Happy Birthday dear Evelyn!
May all your dreams come true.

Best wishes,

Peter

Posted by: Peter on October 27, 2003 01:00 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.74

Grandma Mil please tell Ellie I hope he is comforted. Aunt Sarah is continuing her journey and her love will stay with you always.
Happy Birthday Evelyn. Your name means life? That suits you.
Peter the Rock in purple tennies. Yep, that fits you.
Janice I just discovered the meaning of my name this year after years of searching. It is from the Innuit and it means "way of life". My middle name is Leslye and thats Celtic, "of the gray fort".
Have a great day all, I gotta run or I'm going to be late..again.
Hugz to you Kat!

Posted by: Innussiq on October 27, 2003 09:40 PMfrom IP: 12.172.241.231

Dearest Grandma, may you and Ellie and your other family members and friends be comforted especially today as you lay to rest such a wonderful person as Aunt Sarah. I know how much she means to all of you, as you spoke often about her and letting goy5{l be with you in spirit all day and if you need a hug, someone's shoulder to cry on or to wipe away tears, I'm right next to you! It was so nice talking to you on the phone last night!

Thank you all for your birthday wishes. It made a really nice day even more special!

Kat, congrats on your job. I hope it will be all that you imagined and then even better than that!

Peter, as always, I read your next piece of your story that you shared with greatest interest (when I finally got to it). I hope that you will find inner peace about that which conflicts you and makes your body react so strongly, but your optimism and cheerfullness is inspiring and uplifting. I'm not sure which kind of energy I should send your way, the nerve calming and/or the healing one. I'll send both and a positive shielding love for your trips up north when you pass by your birth Mum's house to make it less painful and stressful for you.
Re. the shoes for your purle suit, I quite like the image which conjures up in my mind with the high heels, although the black buckled boots are pretty cool as well, and then the red pants keep appearing in that image as well ... :-) Chuckling ...

Janice, where do you find all the meanings for the names? But what does your name mean? I don't think you included it in the list.

Diane, I shall be thinking about you as well today. I know it can be unnerving when you reach out for something new as you are with your new business, but you will do fine and remember, there is a learning curve involved. It takes time to find and develop your own style and to settle down into your "routine" both for the students you will be working with and most of all for yourself. I am excited for you and enjoy the first day for all that it brings to you!!!

Okay, I need to get going, but I want to wish ALL of you a wonderful day, hugs to all of you and a bright smile to warm your heart.
Evelyn

Posted by: Evelyn on October 27, 2003 09:59 PMfrom IP: 128.101.250.101

Inn, just out of curiosity, why does "life" suit me? I've been aware of that meaning of my name for a while,... not sure how to particularly identify with it. So what do you make of the combined meanings of your names as "the way of life of the gray fort"?
Thank you for your birthday wishes as well and for your wishes for my sister Iris.
Happy running and arriving on time!

Posted by: Evelyn on October 27, 2003 10:05 PMfrom IP: 128.101.250.101

(creepy music in the background)

OK, Kat...Saturday morning, I was sewing in my music room, just turned on the CD player (to listen to what I KNEW was in there--I'd just had it playing the night before) when out comes the soundtrack to JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR!!! (go look at the date of your post). My husband must've been up late studying and listening to HIS music (he played "Judah" in his HS production...and remembers Every. Flipping. Word.)

Synchronocity? Or just plain freaking WEIRD?

Kat - Good goin' on the toddler tumbling...niiice...wanna babysit?;-) Incidentally, we were at a school function doing crafts with the kids (making tissue ghosts out of lollypops--put a tissue over it, secure with yarn, glue on eyes, tada!) and on the ride home, my 5yr old was in desparate need of a Kleenex. So, I disrobed his "ghost" and he used the tissue for what it's made for, of course. He handed the tissue to my husband and Bill said to him..."What's this called, a 'Boooooger?' ".

Well, they cracked up for the next five miles. Boys.(eye roll...but I laughed too...it;s not often he is EVER funny at all when meaning to be)

Peter - In my usual English-majorishness...wowza. Not sure that you are actually looking for advice (but when has that EVER kept my mouth shut in the past?) along the lines of that Rolfing...Cranio-sacral therapy...same idea, manipulating a part of the body, but in this case it is with only as much weight as the weight of a nickel (US of course ;-) and the therapist applies it to the back of your head--supposedly re-sets trauma, INCLUDING in-utero stuff. Worth a try, mate. Worth a try. Hey...and take a day off...would ya? I mean a REAL day off...go enjoy yourself. Stroke your bike ;-) Free write in your journal. FINISH THAT DAMNED "I just wanna fly...I'm not that naive..." song for pity's sake it's killin' me! ;-) Try something new. Knit. (Hey! Don't knock it til ya've tried it!) Look up the price of Corriedale sheep over there for me. (Kidding! I already know I can't afford the shipping!) Just enjoy yourself. You deserve it.

EVELYN...da-da-da da da daaaaaaa...come on now, hum along...you know the tune! Hope it was an enjoyable day for you. Mine's Wednesday (gotta LOVE us Scorpio women, eh, gents? EH? What? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! What's THAT supposed to mean?! Well, right back atcha, with bloomin' WARTS then! (ahem) See? We're such delightful people. (you're all nodding your heads with fear in your eyes, aren't you?) Truthfully...we're everything the stars say about us. Times a kajillion.

Tim, good luck on the spotting (ooey...that sounds so...I dunno...vaginal. Ugh! Sorry!) ;-)

I'm leaving. I am REALLY bringing the board down to an all-time low with an aptitude that only a few of us can achieve (now where is that CAT when I need her? ;-)

It's raining silly here. Blecko. I have to play (English Country Dance music--nicey nice stuff from the 1600-1750's mostly, beautiful) music at a college this afternoon for their Jane Austen studies. I'll look like a bedraggled rat when I arrive, but hopefully the students will be too busy learning what a "poussett" and "right-hand star" is. Hopefully! Afterall, it's not about me (or the $100 bucks I make) it's about the MUSIC and the history, right? ;-)

Tata...hello to the new posters!
Dhi

Posted by: Dhiana on October 27, 2003 11:09 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Names: "Diane" = "Divine. But of course... ;-)
Paul, ouch dude! But like that will make any difference to you and your self-awareness level. No way!

Mercedes: Pumpkins are my specialty! (comes with being a Scorpian witch I guess)

This is easy, because it's not really a recipe, but an "idea" that changes everytime I make it, and can be served as a side dish or dessert, or, you can be totally weird like me and eat a dish for breakfast--which is what I just had here at my desk!

Cut in quarters or slices and steam pumpkin, acorn, or other squash (can combine what you have on hand, or use several frozen packets--defrosted).
Let COOL, then peel off skin, and cut into chunks into a large bowl.
Add ANY of the following to taste: maple syrup, brown sugar, molasses, cloves, ginger, cinnamon (or all-spice), raisins, walnuts, Drambouie (or other liquer...Butterscotch or Maple schnaaps works too, but not too much--a drizzle...ok, more than a drizzle, but be mindful of little ones and adults who do not drink alcohol) or whatever else suits your fancy.

Puree or blend this all together. You may want to add marshmallows, more raisins/walnuts to decorate the top and bake in a casserole dish at 375F for 20-25 minutes until it is heated through. Watch the marshmallow topping though if you use it, as that gets brown right about the 18-20 minute mark. Serve hot.

Posted by: Dhiana on October 27, 2003 11:23 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59

Sweet Mil, how blessed Aunt Sarah was to have you and Elliot there: a constant source of love and devotion. And what a full life she lived: computing at 90 among other things. My prayers are with you and Elliot.

Hi Julie!

Kat, I'm so happy to hear that this was the job for you. Have a latte for me. Congratulations!!

Be carful what you ask for Michelle. I just might be in Chicago soon to visit my sister. Meeting you would be fun. I'll let you know when I'm going. Glad to hear Chris is better. They did it backwards with my braces. They removed my wisdom teeth after the braces came off.

Janice, thanks for going to my little cyber gallery. I'm working on that site. I made it years ago when I was just learning and it has all sorts of boo boos. I didn't even give dimensions or titles. I'm not trying to sell the stuff, just show it. It takes too much effort to make!! I could never ask for what it's worth to me. And thanks for looking up our names. I've never seen a definition for mine. I wonder where these clear waters are. Certainly not in the banks of the Ohio;)

Inn, I agree. Now that I've been catching up on my movies I'm becoming aware of the repeat performances and I do find it interesting watching people grow up in this truncated manor, but it would be cool to see some new mugs. Maybe Hollywood is waiting for us, eh? ;)

Mary, you do have lucky students. I only saw this film a few years ago. It would be easy to blame this on my location, but the movie was at the library for years before I saw it. I'm lucky it hadn't been stolen by now. I wouldn't be writing this right now if I hadn't seen it.

Oh, Peter I hope you didn't think I was suggesting you were having financial worries. That's just the most common source if the pain is psychosomatic in origin. And I agree on the tennies. Form should follow function in my humble opinion. You don't want to sprain an ankle in that lovely suit.

Hang in there Diane. I'm sending peaceful vibes your way and praying for calming days ahead for you. I may have mentioned I was reading an interpretation of the Bhagavad Ghita. It encourages us to see the divine in everything and it has me convinced that the divine inhabits you and everything else in this world. What a fascinating book.

Hey Mercedes. I'll see if I can find a pumpkin recipe for you. Are you thinking pies or bread or anything goes?

An official Happy Birthday to Ev.

Love to Paul and All,
Whit

Posted by: Whitney on October 27, 2003 11:47 PMfrom IP: 129.71.190.213

Dhi, you're such a rascal today! I'm a scorpio too! Whoever penned the astological descriptions did hit the nail on the head in our case. Regarding Rolphing, I've never tried it, but the method you write about sounds better. Less violent: more soothing.

Posted by: Whitney on October 28, 2003 12:03 AMfrom IP: 129.71.190.213

Dhi and Evelyn: add me to the list of Scorpio women! (11/8) Happy Bday Evelyn!!!!

Grandma Mil: wishing you peace and comfort in regards to the loss of Aunt Sarah.

Hey Inn: Howzit going baybay! Thx for the well wishes.

Hi to Janice! Have yerself a great day m'dear. Hmmm WWII tactics/strategies....will this involve fighter plane maneuvers? Those poor lil kiddies really won't know what's coming at em then...hehehheh. I'm gonna feel like Snoopy and Woodstock tumbling headlong in somersaults for the great pumpkin sweep tuck and roll maneuver and then race to the car.......aaiiiiiiiiiiiiii! LOL

Hi to Peter, Paul, Tim and All at PC today.

Mmmmmmmpumpkin bread. yummmmmm. Now for a hot apple cider search. I'm on a mission!

:) Katalina

Posted by: Katalina on October 28, 2003 01:20 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

Whit: wow another Scorp! this is wild?!!

Hugz,
Kat

Posted by: Katalina on October 28, 2003 01:22 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165

My goodness, so many good posts to read - the corner is really busy these days!

Grandma Mil: God bless you. So sorry to hear of your loss.

Janice: Thanks for listing the meaning of my name along with all the others. I was quite pleased with the result. I just LOVE this type of stuff! So glad you got to watch the dances in SB in slo-mo! They are beautiful, aren't they? I keep telling myself that one day when I have time (HA!) I am going to edit my tape so I can watch the dances whenever I want. We just got a DVD player, which I understand is really great when you want to do freeze frame, slo-mo, etc. Can't wait to try it!

Evelyn: Happy B-day and many more!

Kat: Congrats on the new job! Hope it's everything you want it to be.

Diane: Don't worry about people showing up at your school board meetings. When the spirit moves them, they will come! I hate politics, and since my children are grown, I really don't pay much attention to the local elections except when it comes to raising taxes. Last year the township threatened to close the elementary school where my grandchildren attend and you should see what we did, me included! Needless to say, the school is not closing, so the system does work sometimes...

Peter: Don't worry about growing up in the 70's - I LOVED the 70's - disco and all. (I know, shame on me for liking disco!) Loved the moniker - Sally the Lurker. I think it fits me well.

Hope everyone is ready for Halloween. It's one of my favorite "holidays". I thought I was the only one who shook off the little rugrats when I went to the pumpkin patch! We have a farm nearby that goes all out for Halloween, so needless to say, by the time I get my pumpkins, corn stalks and hay bales, I'm covered in mud and animal do-do! Forget about what the grandkids look like - can you say rag-a-muffins??

Take care, all. Nice talking to you - Hi, Paul!

Sally the Lurker

Posted by: Sally on October 28, 2003 02:50 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37

Hi All,
OK you Scorpios....did you know it is supposed to be the SEXIEST sign of the zodiac?? What say you?
Yep, I squirmed when I had to type the meaning of "Paul", but good things come in small packages do they not?

Kat. Yes, I'm up on fighter/bomber/stealth maneuvers & hardware. First your need GPS to get to the right pumpkin patch. You then have a choice of the F-117A Stealth fighter/bomber. This baby leaves little radar signature. Or you can have the P-51 Mustang which is my little babe & was the best fighter of WW 2. You can also have the B-17, Flying Fortress, the best bomber of WW 2. Who said life isn't about choices?? If you talking Snoopy & WW 1, then how's about the Fokker Trideker like the Red Baron, or a British Sopwith Camel?? These are just a few things in my bag of tricks for your pediatric pumpkin poachers!! If all else fails, a stun gun may be in order. ;-)

Gee, maybe it's me but I thought Rolfing was violent barfing after a major drunkfest. In the States, we call it Ralphing, but to the ears sounds the same as Rolfing.

Inn, thanks for the meaning of your name. It's beyooteefull!!

Ev: My name, Janice, is Hebrew & means "God's Gracious Gift." Yea, right. You should see me early in the morning when I'm looking more like the Devil's Dreck!! I found the name meanings out while trolling the net. I'm holding good thoughts of you and your sister.

Gran Mil & EC: Special thougts are with you today.

Elbows up, head high, feet moving forward.
I'm loving you all throught your day.

HAPPY B'DAYS TO OUR SCORPIOS!!!!

Janice

Posted by: Janice Duke on October 28, 2003 03:02 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224

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