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Sunday, 19 October
article: week later
Part of me cant be bothered actually responding to the article. Its out there, people have read it and probably forgotten it by now. They have read whatever feature was in this weeks paper and that is it. But - I do want to make some comments and that is the part of me sitting here right now. A lot of people have told me how good it was etc how honest, brave etc Yeah - you know me, tell it like it is without fear or favour or so I try. Someone actually said to me that they hoped I was happy with it. This made me think - why would I be happy with it? I think the journalist wrote a good article and got most of it right. Sorry Katrina but you didnt quite get it all right and I will address those bits in a minute. But why should I be happy. It is not a story that makes me feel happy and in fact afterwards I felt quite down and a little defeated by my story, more so because it is 'our' story - the story of an actor. It is also a bit of a rollercoaster ride. When I read it I felt quite removed by the fact it was my story and I guess by being back from it, it gave some room to the slap in the face of the reality it is. Happy? Happy is was told. Re: precocious or principled - The fee I asked for was certainly easily commercially viable (I assume) to the producers of the dvd. It was a fair and equitable acknowledgement of the business side of things. What I mean is that after doing freebies to promote the film and their careers (and mine but often to a negative result ie the dancer guy) and after the film had grossed probably in exess of 150 milliion dollars I thought it only fair that I finally get paid to continue doing so. They declined as is their right and paid someone to blur my image. The fact that they never officially offered me any $ amount shows they had no intention of paying me nor in sharing any of the profits they may make on those sales. Smart business on thier part, they keep all the profits - except for payments to those other actors on points who I assume will get a share of them. Good luck to them. I hope they make lots of money. I would be happy to do stuff for them in the future - on a paid basis. Re: Selling my Sydney Beachside Home - Let me be clear here - my story would be a pretty big winge if I bought my house from the proceeds of Strictly Ballroom. I was paid $35 000 australian to make the movie. Gave all rights up front and recieved no % points. I had to leave my job for four months prior to shooting the movie over seven weeks and then was not offered my job back (with Sydney Dance Company) for about two months after. SO do the maths - take out my agents 10% and spread the fee over the 8 months and I made $984 a week. Pretty good for a dancer earning $800 a week normally. But certainly not enough to buy a house. I was lucky that after SB I did a couple of US films and one Aussie film that paid better than my first film and from those I was able to buy a house. I am so grateful for that and of course without SB who knows what would have happened. re: the casting agent that doesnt want to be named - Gutless, gutless, gutless! I dont necessarily disagree with what they said because in fact it confirms what I have thought the majority of casting directors believe. But what is wrong with them not wanting to say who they are? I would have sent up a current video of my work! Read again what they said -"A casting agent, who does not want to be named, concedes Mercurio, to a certain extent, has been put in the dancer's box, but says his limited acting experience had as much to do with [his lack of roles] as anything" I dont know if they actually know what I have done since SB. Currently I have been in 11 feature films (7 as lead including being nominated as best actor in one) and played lead roles in 12 TV dramas (including being nominated most outstanding actor for one role and another TV film winning an Emmy award) mmmm....lack of roles?? Do you think the casting director actually knows what they are talking about? That is probably why they dont want to be named. But wait, there's more.. I may not be the best actor in the world, thats fine, but I am a good actor and as for the range comment....how would they know? If it is the casting agent I think it might be then let me tell you that I have never auditioned for them for a feature film - never, and they actually have cast about 95% of the Aussie feature films over the last 10 years. I wont name who I think it is in case I am incorrect but if they wish to get in touch with me I welcome it. The thing with range is opportunity. If I (or any actor) am not given the opportunity to get in front of casting directors, directors and producers so that I can show them what I can do or even give them a glimpse of where I can go with a scene or a character how would they know what I am possible of achieving??? They may think I dont have range because they have never seen me in anything else - why - because they have put me in a box and decided that is where they like me to fit and they - I will say that again THEY decide what I can do without in fact giving me the chance to show otherwise. I believe that it is the casting directors duty of care to actors and the audience to grow, develop and nuture the talent in this country - both new talent and older talent. It takes nothing but time (and thought) to have people come in and audition but if a casting director (or producer or director) lazily subscribe to the pidgeon hole..... I guess ignorance is bliss and they achieve nothing thus our industry is floundering at present. and...while I am on this subject, a casting director whom I do not know and was not given thier name asked my agent the other day after my agent suggested me for a role this person was casting said "Paul Mercurio - can he act?" This person should not be a casting director! It is thier job to know the industry and the talent and I believe the potential of that talent but then that would suppose the casting director would have to have some talent themselves!! Disgraceful!!! Imagine if I turned up to an audition and didnt know my lines or had no idea of the character I was playing!! Get it together!!! Nuff Said. Re: The Full Monty - just confirming that I was not approached to play the role. I went through the three audtitions like the other guys and won the role fair and square. I certainly appreciate David's belief and support in me and am really pleased to have the opportunity to be working with him. When I read what he said it struck me how people with talent recognise the talent in others and are so often gracious in that. I guess the fact that they have been through the same mill has a lot to do with that. Re: The Big Break - I'm smiling, I am singing, acting and dancing again and I am happier than I have been for a long while. That is a big enough break for me for the moment. What happens next is an unknown. I am looking forward to it in an easy and relaxed manner, in a positive and healthy way, knowing it will happen in it's own perfect time and for the highest good of all. the journey has began Note: comments on old entries are closed. Please comment only on the current entry. Comments *delurks* It sounds very much to me that many of these casting agents are something like the head honchos of large companies: they know what they are told and base their subsequent decisions on that information, without ever getting their hands dirty with the real thing. Mind you, I'm not entirely aware of what goes on in the movie industry. Do casting agents actually see the actors perform themselves, or is it more like a model agency, where they leaf through a portfolio of images and a list of the actor's body of work to date? Because that second method is no damn way to get along in any business, or to help anybody else get along. Work should be hands-on, no matter what field it's in. Whether you're a director or casting agent, copy typist or admin assistant, shelf stacker or salesman; you have to *be* there and know your stuff. Nobody can claim to know their stuff just by giving something (or someone) a cursory glance and then saying, "Yeah, that'll do," or, "Nah, he looks wrong, and wasn't he that dancer guy? Yeah, can't act then, right?" etc. I get exactly where you're coming from with the range/opportunity thing, too. I work full-time in a microbiology lab, and I'm also studying part-time for an honours degree. I keep skimming through jobs lists, seeing what I can expect to move up to when I'm qualified, and every damn job I see reads, "must have at least three years experience in such-and-such field." Well how the hell do these people expect us all to get the experience if we can't do the job in the first place? Um, so yeah. Argh indeed on that one. That's a massive annoyance for me, and I can only sympathise with you. I have to say this; I'm aware that you've starred in other movies, but I know you mainly from Strictly Ballroom, as do many of the other people I've seen popping up to say hi on this rather wonderful board :) It was one of those life-affirming movies, a real feelgood job that still never fails to make me grin like a lunatic by the end. But - and here's the big but - it's your 'biggest' thing to date in your body of work, and thus it's what people will always think of when they read or hear your name. It's a shame, but that's the way the human mind works much of the time: pure word association. Let me throw you some famous names ;O) Leonardo DiCaprio (you thought 'Titanic', right?) While the fans remember and love the 'other' movies, the public at large will tend to recall only the 'biggest' movie. What really sucks, though, is that these casting directors - who should, let's face it, know their industry inside out - seem to know no more than that general public. Paul, this is a wonderful opportunity that you're giving to both your fans and the public at large. To be able to give so freely of your life and allow others to give back to you is a fantastic thing. You know, there have been times when I've wished I could say certain things to certain famous people, whether it be, "oh shut the fuck up and get on with it," or "boy, do I *ever* know what you're going through!" but have never had the opportunity. So thank you for the insight and the chance to just pop up, say, "hi!" and then keep reading. And good luck on your journey. :) Karen *relurks* Posted by: Karen on October 20, 2003 12:00 AMfrom IP: 80.46.221.25Paul, when I read the newspaper article last week, I was impressed by how forthcoming you are, which I already know about you as you are incredibly forthcoming on your Corner and your response above just adds to this. I had wondered about a lot of these issues you address as well, and the judgmentalism that you have to face every time you go to an audition or simply putting yourself out there to get that audition, angers me. I know that doesn’t do you any good. I know this isn’t a perfect world, but when someone, in your case the casting directors, producers etc., doesn’t even bother to do their homework and your professional success, financial situation depend on them, this is just flat out wrong. One of the things that I have liked about your work (not that I have been able to see it all yet) is that you have done very different roles and I liked that, a lot actually. Yesterday I took a look at the Full Monty website and watched the promo videos. I laughed, you all seem so very funny and I wish I could see the performance myself. Your sense of humour in there cracked me up. Thank you! I sincerely hope that what you have posted here will get the attention that it should get and contribute to a much-needed change in your line of work. I shall send out a request to the universe on your behalf as well. Glad you are happy and content in your current journey and hopeful about the journey ahead of you. How is Richard doing? I will include him in my prayers and to Richard: “I don’t know you at all, but I know that your friends and family want you to come back to them, fully restored and healthy. Take this time of rest that you need to recover and recuperate, but know that there are many who desire you to be a continued presence in their lives. Be well!” Brian, firstly welcome. I’m glad you have had some better news on your Mum’s health and may she too be completely restored to health. And thank you for sharing some positive thoughts and good wishes with me. I really do appreciate it. Doing better with the student, after I noticed that I had totally closed myself off from the student because I’m uncomfortable with her view points, as I was raised in such a closed of religious environment and obviously have not healed sufficiently from that experience to be able to keep my emotional distance. Tim your “angry rant” helped me a lot too, as it was that precisely which put a mirror before me and allowed me to see that I was just about as judgmental as my student was and Diane, thank you for telling me to pull out emotionally. I knew that, but needed to hear that as well. I’ve been able to reach out a bit more to this student and s/he is responding much more and also more prepared. I think s/he got the message about what is okay and what is not. Can I too ask for some positive thoughts of healing for my sister? I talked to her a little while ago and she’s undergoing tests for breast cancer right now. About 2 years ago, the tests came out clean, but right now, things have changed again and there’s reason for concern again. She hasn’t told anyone but me about it and for some reason doesn’t want to tell Mum and my other sister, because of the way they reacted two years ago. I don’t understand my sister there, but it’s her decision to make. Naturally, there’s a lot of anxiety in both of us simply because of this fact and also because of the many memories about Dad surfacing, as he died from cancer within 5 1/2 weeks of being diagnosed. We both know that these are two different situations, but the emotional response unfortunately doesn’t go along with this. Diane, glad to hear things went well yesterday with the launch of your business. I did think about you yesterday and was hoping things were going well. May this continue and may you find joy and fulfillment on this new journey. Tim, loved the family pictures. Your kids are very beautiful, as are you! No more putting yourself down and glad you stood up to your boss. Proud of you! Got to go, but before I go, a special welcome to all the newbies: Pete, Mary, Sally, Karen, Stevie—hoping I’m not forgetting anyone. It’s nice to meet you and I hope to get to know you a bit more and to everyone old and new alike, have a wonderful day! Poor Paul! You seem to be quite annoyed today about last week's article. I see your point, respect it, and sympathize with you on all points. But, let me ask you this - What is so bad (outside of being financially screwed) about being a one-hit-wonder? You will always be linked to SB, like it or not, for as long as you live and then some. You're immortal, man! When the rest of us are dead and gone, leaving no mark behind, you will live forever - be forever young. Your grandkids, greatgrandkids, people who aren't even born yet will know who you are, just from this one film. Is that so bad? Claire Posted by: Claire on October 20, 2003 03:03 AMfrom IP: 205.188.209.69Hi, Evelyn. Pulling away is easier said than done. I'm glad it's working for both you and your student. Good show! I'm sorry your sister's test results weren't good. I will keep her in my thoughts and prayers as well. My guess is that she doesn't want to involve your mother and other sister because she doesn't have the strength to manage their worry and her own. My prayers extend to you, as well, as you stay strong for her. Paul, I share your frustration with people in the entertainment industry who ask you to help them develop and promote their product(s) for free. My husband has done more than his share of this stuff, but he's not receiving a benefit in return. The prevailing corporate mentality is as true for the entertainment business as for any other. Every benefit is skewed to the top and loyalty is non-existant. My husband used to be treated very well on various projects. Then, as Allan heard it, the leader of the "mouse brigade" asked in a meeting, "Are we still giving comps to the fucking talent?" (Uhem, excuse me Mr. E., but the "FUCKING" talent is out there earning the money for your golden fucking parachute.) My husband also really dislikes the constant schmoozing and butt-kissing that seem to be required to even keep your foot in the door. At some point, you have to ask yourself how far you're willing to go without destroying your integrity or undermining your self-esteem. As I said before, Paul, I love your humility and honesty and courage. I think you are a good, solid actor and that your personal trials and tribulations are contributing to your growth as an actor. I'm glad you are now working with someone who believes in you. You certainly deserve that. The comment by the unnamed casting director pissed me off, too. While I'm sure there are good casting directors out there, I think the majority lack talent and imagination and are not willing to go out on a limb. They're looking for "types" either because the advertising client has requested it or because they don't know how to reach beyond stereotypes. As for the reporter, there are good ones who are looking for unique angles and can accurately present their subjects. Then there are those who just churn stuff out in predictable ways without verifying information. Hello, Karen. As you move along in your job search, I hope you'll find some companies that are more flexible in their requirements. I'd say, if you think you're right for a position, send in your resume and see if you can get an interview. Even though it's an employers market, you may discover that the employer can't get anyone who meets their initial qualifications and do so at the rate they want to pay. Then too, a smart employer will recognize talent and weigh other factors, such as organizational abilities, in your favor. So your other skills and abilities may trump their originally stated qualifications. Good luck to you! Even though it's Sunday, I do have work to do. Have a lovely week, everyone. Posted by: Diane on October 20, 2003 07:28 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100I agree with Karen and Diane. The Suits are probably too lazy to do more than read the label a movie role can attach to you. You would think they'd put more thought into these decisions. And I've seen interviews with actors who talked about strangers calling them by the name of the last charactor they played. I predict you'll hear a new name soon and more to follow. I was watching "Sunday Morning" and one of the segments was about an Australian doing a musical. You can imagine my disappointment when it turned out to be about Hugh Jackman and his performance in the musical "A Boy from Oz" (I may have that title wrong). I know you would have been awesome in that role, but I think you're exactly where you should be right now. Besides, Hugh needs the dancing experience. He seemed a bit shaky as he danced his way down that staircase: a bit like a teen in her first pair of stilletos ;) And Claire's right; you're immortal. Unfortunately that doesn't pay the bills eh? Ev, I'm keeping you and your sis in my prayers. To Everyone, I send my love and happy, peaceful thoughts. Good night G-maw. Claire, I agree with the idea of having left a mark on the world through SB. I am indeed very fortunate and have had an experience that many other actors will never get. I dont agree with your terminology 'one hit wonder' - I may never do another film that enjoys the success and popularity that SB did but I continue through my other films, TV, stage work and various writing and speaking engagements to make a mark on the world and to continue to speak to people on an important and positive level. One hit wonder is often used as a term for a no talent loser who lucked out once. Thus far I have lucked out lots and am grateful for the opportunities. Being immortal doesnt pay the bills, satisfy the creative urge to learn, grow further and do more. I have found some people want me to stay that immortal man - they dont seem to be concerned with the idea that life is about living, growing, changing and experiencing. Lastly no one can know who I am from just one film nor from ten films - that is why I write here, that is why I do those type of interviews. Evelyn, I am sending my best thoughts to you and your sister!!! Karen my first thoughts were: Leonardo DiCaprio - Romeo and Juliet Paul, I have always admired your integrity and will continue to do so. I can generally tell when someone is genuine and when they're "full of it". I empathise with your feelings towards the recent article and will continue to support you, because you have earned it, just by being yourself. I sincerely hope that all future ventures have outcomes which are more fair in every way, and fill your spirits and soul as well. Posted by: Peter on October 20, 2003 03:08 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.64Evelyn, I too send good thoughts for you and your sister. I hope it helps. I was tempted to off-load a little something here, but I won't because it probably won't change anything. Perhaps that's my lesson for the day. Best wishes to all at Paul's corner. Posted by: Peter on October 20, 2003 03:16 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.64Paul, I think casting directors, in most cases, are like too many other people in positions of power -- they get paid to act like they know what they're talking about, even when they don't. Unfortunately for anyone trying to survive and thrive as an actor, that means they don't really feel the need to find out what a person can do just because of the size of the ever-refreshing so-called talent pool and because of the cookie-cutter nature of so much of the business. I can understand your frustration about the piece. I think it's a natural reaction to the weird process that happens in the transition from "person interacting with reporter" to "reporter's interpretation of a collection of data points". But then I don't exactly believe in the truth, either -- we all have our perceptions, and in the end, we all probably lack accuracy (yes, that's my meager stab at being less of a control freak than I tend to be by nature). What I think is important though is that the article shows you as someone who is committed, talented and unique. The details, while damn important in getting things done, aren't always so useful when it comes to moving forward, and I think the overall impression the piece created is both positive and intriguing. May the next article be both what you want and what you need. And to everyone, this is a remarkable corner of the Internet. Life brings us all a lot of strange challenges and it's always lovely to be around people, even virtually, who are challenging life back. -Racheline Posted by: Racheline on October 20, 2003 03:41 PMfrom IP: 24.193.98.3Well said Racheline. I got an overall positive vibe from the second interview too. Of course it wasn't about me so I'm naturally not as aware of every level of meaning that could be interpreted. I didn't like the use of the word "precocious", but that was a stranger weighing the possibilities and I think s/he was going for a dichotomy of explainations for a spicy intro to the article. Even with its flaws, I think it'll generate much interest in the musical. Good morning to All and as always, a special cyber hug for our Millie. I'm listening to the SB CD she gave me right now! Paul, since reading your post I have been very uneasy trying to formulate in my mind what it was that hit a nerve with me. Your frustrations regarding the interview/interviewer are just a symptom of the bigger problem we all face. Now, forgive me if I make this sound simple, because it isn't. I think basically, people either live their life based in love or fear. And not to be snarky here, but this is not a reference to the SB theme. I'm talking about all of us who choose to exist making that one choice regarding our lives. It defines who we are. Paul, in your profession you seem to be surrounded by the fear-based personalities. Tim, you just encountered another one in your job. Evelyn has run into several this past year. I honestly believe we are all one or the other. While your decisions regarding your career are SO based in love...for your family, for your craft, and even healthy love of self in the form of self-respect, there are lots of people in your business who have all sorts of motives we can't even begin to imagine. Power being number one. Money, fame, material crap, etc. Of course you can have all of that and still have love as your center! It's just that these assholes are so afraid of not getting there that they don't see how ugly they are becoming in the process. A good employer realizes that showing their employees respect and paying them well will lead to MUTUAL respect and higher productivity. It seems fairly simple to me. Yep, it's all about love and fear. And those of us who frequently beat our heads against the wall because we sense this "bigger picture" are the lucky ones. We have already learned that as fellow travelers on this planet we are all better off when we look out for each other. We know that we are all connected, and that helping another person find their happiness will be what brings us to our own. That is why it is so frustrating dealing with these sorts of people, because it is hard to believe that there are people who still don't get it. Yeah, ok maybe I make it seem too simple. But I have spent a long time trying to come to terms with this in many different areas. Whether you're dealing with business, art, and especially religion and politics, you can sense right away where someone is coming from. If they imply that you're less than you are, that you should be afraid for some reason, or that you don't deserve the best, walk the other way. If, like Paul, you have to deal with them, then see them for what they are. Scared little bastards. Whew! I feel better for ranting. Thanks for writing what you did Paul. By doing so you allowed all these thoughts that were dancing around in my brain to coalesce and be born! In love, To both Richard and Evelyn's sister, I send loving, healing light. May you both be well and happy! I also just wanted to say thanks to everyone who wished me well in my stressful time with the Cubs. Wait till next year! And Peter, please, off-load at will. I always learn something whenever you share your ups and downs with us. Don't ever think that what you have to say isn't worthy of our time, or less important than the topic at hand. We're connected now, you're stuck with us! So lets have it, Sir Intro! Love to you, Michelle, well said. I agree it is up to us to chose how we wish to approach our every day lives - positive or negative (loving/fearing) - and yes it is often a real challenge to live the positive life when you are so often bombarded and surrounded by people who have made no choice either way but lean towards the negative and worse still to be around those who have made the choice to be negative. That is why having a vent is a great, healthy and positive thing to do, get it out and move on! Seeing people as they are is not always easily apparent but if in your loving self you can get to that place it certainly expunges your own sense of fear and puts you firmly in a loving space, a patient space and a freeing space. Just a note regarding the journalist Katrina Strickland. I thought she did a great job and out of all the journos I have dealt with during my career she was one of the most fastidious regarding checking facts etc Stuff always creeps through and when she would call to check certain facts some of the other minor points slipped underneath (and there were only those two I pointed out). I would have no problem talking to her again and trusting her to be the professional that she is. I wouldnt have minded if she had of balanced the casting director that wanted to remain nameless with another view from one that would have been happy to be named. That way the reader (and I) may have got a more balanced view of it. But then that is my ego talking. Posted by: Paul on October 21, 2003 08:04 AMfrom IP: 211.29.77.193Paul, It's only fair and reasonable to wish to see a balanced view. I don't think it is in any way egotistical to want credit when it is due. Michelle, Thanks for that. I suppose I'll eventually sort it out. Hello to all. Greg, I'm entitled to my opinion as are you. If you want to say something negative about my perception and description of Hugh Jackman coming down the stairs I'm sure it's just an expression of the truth as you see it. My statement was the same. I'm not going to let your criticism keep me from speaking my thoughts. I love Hugh Jackman and have said so in previous posts. He can definitely shake his ass, but he's no Paul Mercurio. Censor yourself and write what you feel comfortable writing. I felt fine expressing my opinion and I'm not worried about what you think. Good morning Grandma and All. whitney-wow,what an aggressive post. you sound quite defensive. Paul, I've just caught up regarding your friend Richard. Paul Paul Tim, Nice to hear it. Have a geat week yourself. Posted by: Peter on October 22, 2003 11:18 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.107Greg, we all benefit from encouragement, but my comment on the dancing ability of Jackman wasn't said for the purpose of "breaking someone down to build up another". The negativity was something you brought to the post. It exists in your mind: not mine. It's okay if Jackman can't dance like Paul. I'm sure he'll survive and Paul seems to be doing well also. It was just my opinion with no malice intended before or now. Tim, it's so good to read your posts: very insightful. And I'm honored to be your cyber pal. I wish you weren't so isolated. It's regretable that your religion doesn't bring you into contact with some cool believers like yourself, but you'll always have us and I pray that God sends more faithful friends into your life. You're a lovable, genuine person and anyone would be blessed to have you for a buddy. Thanks for the hug and I'm sending one back to you. Well, my dog says it's time to get off this darn computer and he calls the shots around here. Good night Grandma, Paul, Tim, Ev, Greg and All. It’s interesting that Hugh Jackman’s name should come up here. I’ve only been here a few days but I don’t think of this website as being about acting or dancing or (most surprising to me when I arrived) even about Paul in particular. I think of it as being about making ourselves better people. I’ve never meet Hugh Jackman, but I know people who have (not too surprising since he lived here for years). Without exception they back up the tabloid image of him being a genuinely nice, genuinely friendly, well grounded individual. He kind of reminds me of another actor that I’m familiar with. Now if we were at a website about acting, I would have to tell you all of my great respect for Russell Crowe’s skill. That guy can REALLY act. As near as I can tell though (and I have NO personal knowledge of this), the man is pathetic, egotistical and arrogant. I think Hugh is a good actor. I don’t think he is as good an actor as Russell Crowe. Others may disagree. The point is arguable. Is Hugh more worthy of respect and even admiration? No-brainer! So I have a message to Paul: If, sometime in the dead of night, you find yourself defining your success entirely in terms of how others view your acting and dancing skills then you need to go and kiss your kids, and watch them sleeping, and stay near them until you’re thinking straight again. Brian Just now I thought to myself: "Gee, it's been quite a while since I slipped on the purple (purle) suit and ran a quick lap down the main street". Goodnight everyone. pete, bummer 'bout the back! Bad business, all sounds like you did the next best thing by packing up and going home!!! hope you're able to give the back a rest (your posts indicate you work long long hours) later... Posted by: bluedog on October 22, 2003 09:52 PMfrom IP: 168.56.106.198LOL....ahahahahhaaa...lol... Ah, yes, the "purle suit". It ALL comes back to that, no? And Peter - that subconscious nagging of that one item, unfortunately, is there for a reason and will be opened and dealt with FULLY when the time comes. Wrap it in blue satin back there, so when you feel it at least it rubs you the right way. ;-)
Thanks Whit... Brian you are right on. You can discuss anything or debate anything but it's more about sharing our lives. Secondly you made an incredibly valid point to Paul, that is to focus on what is real when the unreal is making you feel bad. Later everyone.. peace and love timmer Posted by: Tim Hord on October 23, 2003 01:38 AMfrom IP: 67.35.32.189Hello, Everyone: I am SO glad I am a part of this community, whether I am lurking or not. There is so much insight, positive energy and love that I have no need to go anywhere else. Paul, thank you for having us here. The good you do just for me is tremendous and I see your good reflected in the others here as well. Thank you. Tim, you have said a lot of things that I agree with completely. I enjoyed your analysis of some of the ranges Paul as shown in several of his characters. Right on the mark! Brian, your words hit me, too. I especially like the point you made about kissing your kids and watching them sleep when you think you have nothing good going for you (not your exact words so I hope you will forgive me). Made me think of how lucky I really am. To everyone else here, hope things are going well for you. To everyone who needs a ((hug)) or two today, please take one. I have lots to give out today. Take care... Sally Posted by: Sally on October 23, 2003 02:48 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37 Dear Paul: I just saw STRICTLY BALLROOM for the first time and fell in love wtih Scott and Fran. I was so taken with your acting and especially, your dancing, that I had to look for more info about you. Imagine my amazement and delight when my search brought me here to your website! I'm trying not to be the gushing, star-struck fan, but I must tell you I am impressed with all your accomplishments. I only wish I had known about them earlier so I could've gone along for the ride! But, I see by your writings that your journey is taking you in a different direction now. With your permission, I'd like to come along with you, supporting you in any way I can. Thank you so much for having this great place where your fans can gather and talk to you. This is an unique experience for me and I love it here already! Hope to stop by on a regular basis. Karyn Posted by: Karyn on October 23, 2003 03:46 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37Hi Tim, PJM, this is a question for you. A critic once described this actor/singer/dancer in these words: My perception is that a critic is a critic because what the heck else are they suited to do in life? Sort of the bottom feeders on the food chain. Remember: The only REAL critics are a full house!! Kind Regards, Bluedog, No worries, I've got a better solution! Dhi mon goddess, When the time is right, huh? Tim, Focus sounds like good medicine all by itself. Happy spinning. Do one for me. I'd fall over, fer sure dude! Welcome Sally the Lurker, Karyn and Janice. A good day to all. (I can't stand to fly....) Posted by: Peter on October 23, 2003 04:39 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.196One last thought: ....the truth shall set me free. I just can't work out what to do with it. Bum. Posted by: Peter on October 23, 2003 04:41 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.196AAARRGH!!!! Lost this the first time I tried to post it! Peter, do you think all the issues relating to your birth mother are your "big life lesson" this time 'round? It's kind of like a land mine that you keep driving around, all the while knowing that to truly get past it, you'll eventually have to drive right over it. Is this why your back hurts as well? Granted, I know you have other physical issues that could be the cause, I can't help wondering if there could be some connection to carrying this burden? I find your story so compelling, and I feel such empathy towards you for the pain this has caused you. At the same time I wonder if you would be as evolved as you are in the spiritual sense had you not gone through such trying times. You can put a big "I" on that purple suit for Introspective Man!!! A superhero for the New Age!!! My son had all four of his impacted wisdom teeth removed yesterday, so we are knee-deep in pain killers and ice packs. On top of that, both of my parents have had health issues come to light this week. I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed just now. I'm trying not to be cynical, but I'm not exactly working with a positive vibe at present. I go on... Wishing everyone, including the newbies, love and light. We are all connected you know. And what a good thing that is. Michelle/Chicago Posted by: Michelle on October 23, 2003 05:35 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141 *delurking* to bask in the lovelight from PC...mmmmmmmmm. I've been interviewing this week - got second callback for follow up interview today, which I completed. Decision to be made this week. Asking for good positive vibes, prayers, wishes, whatever... for luck, success and to be where I need to be job-wise whether it's this potential new opportunity (which i really do want bad, and think could be a really good fit), or a better one round the corner.... Hugz, ps Hi Inn, Hi Whit! (hug) Posted by: Katalina on October 23, 2003 06:18 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165oops forgot to hug Tim, Peter, Paul and All at PC too... (((((hug))))) Kat Posted by: Katalina on October 23, 2003 06:21 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165Hey Kat! Best of luck and lots of good energy to you in your quest for a new job. You deserve to be happy! I was thinking you might have morphed into a beautiful mermaid with all the rain in Seattle! Mich/Chi Posted by: Michelle on October 23, 2003 07:29 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141I just saw "Strictly Ballroom" yesterday and loved it! Very thought provoking; I wish there were more films like this. My three year old daughter sat with me and watched the whole movie! I had seen you in "Joseph", which is one of my favorite Old Testament stories; you did the part well, IMHO. I hope you continue to be involved in wonderful projects like these. As a teacher, I am looking constantly for uplifting stories to encourage my students to pursue their dreams. Thank you. WOW..How awesome all these newbies to PC. Welcome one and all. Hey Aunt Mil...haven't seen ya post. Hope all is well with you and Ellie in S. Florida. The word I was looking for earlier is to spot. We did it again tonight, except tonight we added a shuffle in the middle of the turn. DamnI'm feeling like a dancer...LOL..But we are working on a little latin type piece it reminds me of the scene at Frans house in SB where Fran Scott and her dad are practicing. All I know for sure is..I love to dance...it's a ton of fun. I had a client at my house this afternoon before class and I had the cd from SB playing. Cecilia is originally from Peru and she loved the music. She asked me where it was from and I told her. She had seen SB a long time ago and loved it. So I told her all the history of Paul and it was really cool to be able to unveil the soul of the show. Michelle I do hope everything goes up for you. The tragedy as we get older is parents get older too. I don't really have that issue, since my mom died, but my wife does. Her dad at 70 is going to have knee replacement surgery in a couple of weeks. They're nervous because of his weight. He's a very big man 6'5" and well over 300 pounds. Anyway...I hope your son feels better fast. Mine only took about a week to feel normal again..completely. Peter. Man I love to read your posts. Don't ever hold back. I checked out the full monty website. Paul looks like you guys are having fun and are going to be magnificent on stage. Well gotta go. It's 11pm and I have to be ready cut color and curl at 9am tomorrow. peace and love to everyone. timmer Michelle, I truly believe that my "big lesson" somehow revolves around my experiences with my birth mother. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly how, well at least not yet. I really don't believe that my experiences are the main issue or lesson. I suspect that they are only a vehicle. I am told by a number of professional therapists that those experiences were exceptionally emotionally traumatic in their nature. I can only take their word for it. I can understand it in an intellectual sense, but mostly I don't suffer anything, because, as I am advised, certain emotional responses shut off at that time, protecting me and probably preventing me from having a breakdown. The human mind has a wondereful ability to protect itself, it seems. I'm taking about the shocks that I received in utero, which I have been able to remember quite vividly. The frustration comes from not being able to stop my subconscious mind from adversely and significantly affecting my energetic (emotional -nervous system) state of being, which results in constant residual muscle tension and regular spinal injuries. In each instance, there has never been any obvious physical cause of the injury, yet I have sprained my sacro-iliac joint five times. The third time happened while I slept! Maybe this IS the best I can be! I know this effect can be "switched off". When I first met my birth mother, everything appeared so joyous and wonderful (stupid me). As a result, my body "let go". I had no aches or pains, and my flexibility was unbelievable. Very soon after, as soon as I twigged to what she was playing at, the response switched on again and manifested strongly. It is still with me. Since then I have had several more back inuries, the first on the anniversary of first meeting her and the second on the 2nd anniversary since I last spoke to her. Despite all that, I still believe that all this was merely a "toughening up" or "shaping" exercise. I believe that it will somehow be responsible for allowing me to perform I truly hope I can. If nothing else, I have formed the opinion that we, as human beings, must all hold something in our minds to which we aspire. Some purpose, some value. Without the forward looking and optimism, there is only existence, not life. Sorry to hog the cyberspace. I hope I left some.
Grandma's here, Timmer, Grandma's here! I had not posted to this thread, for whatever I wanted to say was eloquently said already! Janice, that quote was about Fred Astaire...he was 34 when he made his first movie. He was not considered a romantic lead, was not tall, was balding, and "can't sing, can't act, and dances a little..." Fred would have been in awe of Paul's talent! See, the so- called "talent" agents were wrong in Fred's case, and it only took one film, "Flying Down to Rio" with Ginger Rogers,to jump start his fabulous career! Irving Berlin loved the way Fred sang his songs, as did Jerome Kern, etc., and Fred did sing in many films, and then broke into his dance. Lisa, welcome, I'm a retired teacher who rates "Strictly Ballroom" the most uplifting and beautiful film in many decades..I would deem it my favorite, and at my age, I have seen them all. As a teacher, you would love this website: www.teachwithmovies.com. It mentions films suitable for the classroom, and "Strictly Ballroom" is among them...just go to "alphabetical order", (S) and find it...it is highly rated for children over 8, but it seems the little ones love it too! My husband and I retired in 1991, so I was never able to use "Strictly Ballroom" as a teaching tool, but the retirees here in our village just adore it, and keep coming back to see it multiple times in my film seminar. (5 times since 2001) Fifteen of my "Follies 2003" cast and I entertained at a women's charitable organization yesterday. The club raises money for a village that houses children that have been abused or neglected. My singers and dancers were well received, and it is only the first of different venues in which we will be performing, until I start rehearsals in the spring for "Follies 2005." We have to be optimistic, right? By the way, Inn, Ellie has another nickname...Janice suggested "ECFTM"..."Eye Candy for the Masses"....Ellie says, "thanks, ladies!" Peace and love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 23, 2003 06:05 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.118P.S. Lisa, I just checked the www.teachwithmovies.com site, and it has been revamped...just go to "search" and type in "Strictly Ballroom"...that will be quicker! Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 24, 2003 12:16 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.118P.P.S. www.teachwithmovies.com praises "Strictly Ballroom" as one of the 10 greatest movies of all on their list! Grandma again. Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 24, 2003 12:22 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.118Grandma: I love Ellie's newly coined nickname!! ECFTM!! It was on the tip of my tongue to come up with Fred Astaire for that critic's famous initial impression before he went onto becoming famous...I was wracking my brain and got close...but for some reason Bob Hope was on my mind first, but I was getting closer...I knew it was someone from that era! Thank you Michelle!!! No mermaid action yet. Kudos to Peter for that forward thinking approach and holding his purpose in mind and having incredible faith and positivity throughout adversity and tremendous challenge - be it emotional, spiritual, or physical. You seem pretty together and ahead of the game to me, Peter! I find it intriguing and valuable that maybe you feel these difficult experiences were important "shapers" toward your purpose? or Evolution of Peter? That you are possibly choosing (from before???) or taking part in being prepared for your important purpose here or what you will discover that purpose to be? I think that's very cool and have often wondered similar things whenever encountering people, life lessons/experiences that haven't "broken" me but have served to strengthen and prepare me for next series of "tests" or adventures and gave me the tools to deal with them, perhaps. Hugz to the PC today. latteluv, ....*music playing from Peanuts' Schroeder's Theme.. (while toddler toppling, pumpkin wrestling, and slipping and sliding in the mud...oooh no you don't ya little booger...that's Miiiiiiiiiine...aaauuuuuurgh...)* Just kidding.
Tim, thanks for the kind words. It does seem like I'm struggling with all of this and that I should just let go a bit, but that's easier said than done. I'm reminded that the joys of life wouldn't be as sweet without the pain, but I'd like to have a go without the painful stuff for just a few days. I'm working on meditative detachment, which I hope will help. Peter, was your recent poem about this vision? Wow, that must have been such a powerful moment for you. But, regarding others suffering more in their experiences...that is beside the point, I believe. While their experience is horrible, it is theirs, and yours carries just as much importance when you get right down to it. I have a nasty tendency to compare myself to others, and in doing so I always find that I don't quite measure up. And it doesn't matter if I think they're better or worse off than me. I lose no matter what. I have learned that my life is unique in every aspect, and comparisons only cause me to doubt the reality of my situation. At least that is what I've been telling myself lately:) I think I know what my big life lesson is, but am also not sure of what to do about it as of yet. It involves having a tendency to see everything in an "all or nothing" light. I won't go further than that now. But Peter, about two months ago I woke up one morning and the first thought that came to me was, "talk to Peter about your life. He needs to here it". And just let me say, it's hard having that powerful of a thought about someone and NOT KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE! I felt it so strongly that I got up immediately and found my journal to write it down. I thought maybe I had had a dream about you after reading one of your posts, but I couldn't remember anything. So...one day soon I'll tell you more about me. I'm not in a place where I feel comfortable doing that just yet. But know that I do learn from what you write. I feel better just knowing you're sharing this journey with all of us this time around. Love to you all, Posted by: Michelle on October 24, 2003 01:36 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141 ...why is it that the anklebiters, rugrats, kneenippers have the Best reflexes and most excellent center of gravity?!! jeez! *wiping face off, flinging mud and pumpkin leaf, wiping off pants from major splat! Anklebiter=1; Kat=0* hmph! Posted by: Katalina on October 24, 2003 01:39 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165{{Hello Corner!!}} I had a very bad few days physically, but I am back in action. Slow action but, action none the less. Sorry, I'm behind. HI Kat! We seem to be in synch so often! Grandma, your knowledge and passion for film never fails to impress or cheer me. You're a regular goldmine of knowledge. Kat, Evolution. Yes that's it. You hit the nail on the head. Please share your thoughts at will. I find it very helpful. Sometimes things are right under our noses but we still can't see them. Your interpretation made me recognise something that I knew strongly at a subconscious level, but played down otherwise. Thanks. Michelle, The recent poem was about the first moment, for the first time, that I saw the house that my birth mother lived in. It was my first contact, in a sense. I realised that it was no longer a dream, or concept, but it was in fact real. The first meeting was soon after, and it was also life changing. It changed my perception of things forever. The comparison is subjective. I included it because, from my perspective it is probably true, however I fully agree with you. I guess I just didn't want to sound like a whinger, so that's mainly why I mentioned it. OK, you caught me out. I meant well! Inn, thank you also for your support. I'll have the purle suit dry cleaned in preparation. Can you wait a few months until I get my old body back? To all my friends at PC, your comments make me happy. Thankyou. Hey InnBaybaby! howzit going? Hugz, ps..Peter, at the risk of feeling foolish, refresh memory about the "purle suit" thing? Welcome to all the newbies!!!!! Thanks for joining in and look forward as always to your contributions, rants and raves. Trusting Greg and Whitney have got that out of their systems. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and everyone is entitled to express it. Tim, you beat me to the "spotting". Some ballets I have done you spot like mad but still get pretty dizzy but you cant fall over or wobble around the stage you just got to keep on dancing - life is like that too hey? Peter, thanks for the comments re: This Is Your Life. Steven is a great person and a great friend, I am very pleased for him. That was shot in Feb Or March I think. I beleive I was wearing my perle suit beneath my outfit so as to give me the strength and endurance to face the cameras. Posted by: Paul on October 24, 2003 07:35 AMfrom IP: 211.29.77.193Hi Gran Mill, Kat, You need to have a battle plan including strategy, tactics, and logistics long before you get to the pumpkin patch girl or you'll end up being a trauma patient of mine! I'm on the Great War and a WW 2 site doing research for others around the world, so I'm up on battlefield maneuvers. The little pumpkin patch buggers can be vanquished!! I'm holding good thoughts of you in your job interview. Mich/Chi, how's the weather there? I'm freezing my royal ass off in N. Y. I'm such a wuss when it's cold. Gotta move to a warmer climate!! Peter. your stories touch my heart. No matter how many times life knocks you down, the only part that REALLY matters is how many times you get up to fight the good fight.My philosophy for life?? ILLEGITIMATI NON CARBORUNDUM. Then again, I'm a New Yorker!! I'll let the teachers here translate for you. I just checked my shoe collection & I have a pair of high heels to match your purle suit. Hey, if it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother me. Then again, it may be more info. than this gal needs to know. ;-)Creates quite a visual though. Inn. Hope you feel better. If not, see message to Timster below. Anyone else watch SB dance sequences in slo mo?? Amazing stuff. The arch of a back....curve of an arm....angle of a head. I put being able to dance like that on my wish list for Santa. I hear him laughing already.
Janice P. S.: Timster, I checked the trunk of my car, and have splints, boo-boo bandages with or without smiley faces, ice packs, slings, support bandages for ankles & elsewhere. Also have heavy sedation & wee-wee pads available for those really tough dances. They're not like making you do spits are they? JEEZ, that could really do significant damage that & may require more medical intervention that even I can provide! J. Posted by: Janice on October 24, 2003 09:39 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224Too much interesting stuff to comment on right now. Really want to go sleep, and will in a sec, but before I do, I just want to thank you all for your support and postive thoughts for my sister. It means a lot to me!!! Don't have anything to update about that other than one of the preliminary tests came back okay, unfortunately, that doesn't mean a whole lot, other than that it could have been worse. The tests go on, as does the waiting and that I find very tough. But yesterday, I picked up a more hopeful vibe or energy and I'm calmer, as is my sister, Can't explain it, no facts to go on, just instincts. Peter seems to have posted something long and interesting, can't wait to read it, but not tonight... Love and good wishes to all and welcome to the new posters! Posted by: Evelyn on October 24, 2003 12:23 PMfrom IP: 134.84.252.206Hello to Lisa, Janice, Karyn, Brian. Howdy to all the regulars including some I don't see yet on this thread. Missing you, Linda! Peter, I too am fascinated by your experiences and your observations on them. No need to apologize for the length. Kat, I'll light a candle tonight and send "good opportunities" thoughts your way. Innussiq, I think I've got a health candle here, too. Soothing vibes to you. Tim, you are burnin' baby. So confident and energetic. Wow! Evelyn, I'm still sending prayers for your sister. Paul, how is your friend Richard? I'm sending prayers his way each night also. Millie, I can't believe your energy and stamina. What an amazing woman you are. Elliott certainly is ECFTM, but I'll bet he has to run to keep up with you. Michelle, I hope your son is recovering from his oral surgery. I had a four wisdom teeth remove at once about 17 years ago and it was still a miserable experience. Best wishes for your parents' improved health also. Comparing oneself to others is a trap many of us fall into. It's not hard when you consider that most advertising is geared toward separating "us" from "them" by way of whiter teeth, better cell phones, and sexier bodies. Our culture encourages division. I find that it helps to remember that everyone has their own doubts, insecurities and struggles — even when they're not evident, and perhaps especially when the person seems too perfect. There are a lot of people out there who have all the goodies, the looks and the arrogance; but are complete wrecks inside. These days, rather than avoiding those people who might otherwise intimidate me, I try to relax and be myself. When I make it my business to get them to relax, I always feel better after. I don't have any control of the final outcome, just how I face it. I've spent weeks organizing school board candidates forums, the first of which was poorly attended. The second took place last night and the only people who showed up to listen to the candidates were a couple of spouses and a few other school board people. I guess people weren't "mad as hell" about anything. It was embarrassing and disheartening, but I didn't crumble in defeat. "Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, start all over again." What else can you do? You do what you believe is right and you give it your best effort. Ce'st la vie. Now, if I was a bigwig Republican is this big "R" town and my buddy Arnold had flown down from Sacramento to attend, oie vey, what a meeting that would have been! Love to ya'll! Posted by: Diane on October 24, 2003 12:38 PMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100Good afternoon to all. I read the posts earlier and was commiserating with Michelle who'd lost her entire message before it was posted and damned if I didn't loose mine! My dog had already waited long, so I decided to take him out rather then try to rewrite my post from this morning. let's see if I can remember anything I had the impulse to say. Oh, I did want to answer Kat's question about the origin of the purle suit. It was a typo in the word purple. Peter was telling us about his unusual suit and describing its color. Someone suggested it was his super hero suit and it has become an inside joke that you're now in on. A Latte hugz to you dear Katalina and congratulations on your job call back. I too hope the best outcome for you. Hi Sally and welcome to all the new posters. Lisa, SB brought me here as well. It's a magical movie. Peter, I missed the post about the possible psychological origins of your back pain, but I've read about that as well. One writer suggested it had a special affinity with finqancial concerns. I also read a book called "Skin Deep" and it made a lot of sense considering our skin is our largest organ. It was the writers opinion that manifestations on our skin often signified unconscious concerns that try to enter our consciousness through our skin. Your post also reminded me of a subject I read a little about called Rolphing (sp?). It's named for its inventor I thing and the basic idea is that our muscles have memories and often store stress in them through the tensing of the muscles. Rolphing was a method of manipulating the muscle very deeply and painfully forcing a person to release what was referred to as muscular armoring. I think I experience it myself. My mmother mairried a man 12 years older than her when I was 5, He had never raised a child, but form my experience I imagine he grew up during a time when it was acceptable to beat children. He often grabbed me by my arm and to this day my left arm is drawn up at the shoulder muscle. I try to make myself relax when I become conscious of it, but I do it subconsciously. I wish you and everyone could at least get a relaxation massage once a week. My back doctor recommends swimming as well. Michelle, I empathize with your son. I had my wisdom teeth removed when I was 18. I'm sure they discouraged him from poking the empty socket with his tongue. He doesn't want a dry socket. Janice, as a visual artist, I agree with you on the issue of professional critiques. Grandma, I was begining to worry. I knew you'd know who that critique was referring to. ECFTM eh? I'll back that up. I'm with Michelle Chicago. it was only when I stopped competing with others and began competing with myself that I was able to end that endless and futile struggle. What a relief. Hi Inn. I like an actor who goes out there and researches a role. I guess it's just like visual art. The more you observe, the more details you can present and the more realistic and beautiful a thing becomes. Peter, thanks for telling us about Paul's part in the celebration of his friend's career. I wish I could see the program. And Paul, I missed your post about your friend Richard, but am keeping him in my thoughts as well. Janice, I've never watched SB in slow mo. It sounds beautiful. You sound like a very prepared woman. Too bad it's soo cold in NYC. It's like spring in WV. Dear Diane, apathy seems to be a problem everywhere, especially in politics. I commend you for doing more than your part to bring rationality to what should be an important decision for these people. Maybe the few that attended will tell others. Well, I apologize for making this so long. I just had to try and catch up with the Corner. My love to Paul and All, Long Time No Me Hello to everyone old and new at the corner. Grandma Mil don't worry I'm still alive and still planning to attend the November Shows with the famous Uncle George. I'm on one of my contract work assignments for the next few weeks so I've been busy. Not much else to say about my little world. Except my dog decided to designate one of my work pumps as a new chew toy. Great excuse to go shopping though. Paul, I'm glad you got all that off your chest. Its amazing how journalists will interpret facts to make it into a "good story". It's about your life and they should be more sensitive about that. And of course you can act! If you couldn't you wouldn't have done what you have done so far in your career. You definetely don't have to justify yourself. I think something simular like that happened to Dustin Hoffman years ago. Anyway, I'm working on a new writing project and since I'm thinking about it, I'll create a character just for Paul in case one of the networks one day would like to make it into a series (in my dreams). Oh no need to thank me its a pleasure. lol Good wishes to all at the corner. Posted by: Julie on October 25, 2003 02:24 AMfrom IP: 63.239.112.241omg...i GOT the job! muah! Katalina Posted by: Katalina on October 25, 2003 04:11 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165Whit: thx for explanation of purle suit. Hugz back to Peter, Inn, Janice and Diane and all. Congrats Kat!!! I just knew you would get it! Now...what will you be doing to celebrate? Besides picking pumpkins:) Thanks to all who wished Chris well with his sore mouth. He's still looking a bit like a chipmunk, but he doesn't hurt anymore. Glad thats over, and now on to the orthodontist. Janice, it's actually been nice here, just a little chilly. You sound like my husband, he starts layering shirts in September. I wish all of you could just fly in for some pizza and beer. Wouldn't that be fun? We could do the Ferris Bueller tour: Art Institute, Sears Tower, and of course hit a few micro-breweries for Paul. Hey, a girl can dream! I've been watching the DVD of Jesus Christ Superstar (the new stage version) today while puttering around the kitchen. Jesus is unusually erotic in this version, and Judas is deliciously cynical. Very different from the way the characters were portrayed in the original movie. I've also been watching a DVD of David Bowie's music videos. It looks to me like Let's Dance and China Girl both have shots of Australia in them. Were they filmed there? Anyone, anyone? Happy Weekend to all of you. Michelle/Chicago Posted by: Michelle on October 25, 2003 05:44 AMfrom IP: 12.251.106.141Thanks Michelle. Hey BTW: i ADORE that new version of JCS. omg it is very sexy. I especially love that one song when the high priests (Caiphus) are at a high powered meeting and are singing that one song...which is kinda dark and has lots of interesting minor notes...I loved their version of it...It brought all over chills it was that good. Music does that to me! Hmmmmm I need to find that DVD. That adaptation of it was so durned sexykewl. I HAVE to have it! tee hee Second to the Happy Weekend to Paul and the PC. Just checking in to say Hello to everyone and to send you all good wishes. Paul - lots of thoughts on your post. Many have been touched on by others here already. Here are just a couple I'd like to comment on. First of all - your request re: the DVD was, in my opinion, a just one. Your contribution to the success of SB can't really be disputed. The film is one of those that makes an impact and leaves an imprint. Your portrayal of Scott is pivotal to that impact. (I witnessed this again when I showed the film to my class of 11/12 yr olds this week.) You deserve to benefit in a more fair way from its success. Secondly, in a way you could say that SB is just one example of an impact that you have made in your life. I'm sure you've made similar impacts on people when dancing on stage and when acting in other roles and I've no doubt you make/have made an impact on a more personal level with family, friends and just people you meet (I think of Peter)and that you will continue to do so. Apart from the fact that you are creatively talented which explains a lot of the first examples, I think maybe it might also be because you seem like someone who is 'fully alive'. You consistently come across as a person who embraces life to the full and looks onward and outward to what lies ahead. A book that means a lot to me is Anam Chara by John O'Donohue and a couple of lines from it come to mind now: To all those here who need healing in any way: Evelyn - You and your sister are in my thoughts. You are all in my prayers. And to finish, Diane - I hope your business will thrive. Keep your heart up. To everyone - sending good wishes your way. Mary Mary - very cool quote and a lovely perspective, especially when put in motion!! thx for the words of congrats. I will carry my personal atmosphere with me in any place I go...this new job will be wonderful because I will go into it ready to make it so...challenges or no. I'm excited at the opportunity to be challenged and to grow grow grow (yet again)! Janice - I've also enjoyed watching (in SB) Tara and Paul's MOJO in SLO-MO...lol ;) Kat Posted by: Katalina on October 25, 2003 07:42 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165Congratulations, Katalina! Well done. And thanks for the hugs. Michelle, I'm glad to hear that Chris is feeling better. Thanks, Whitney and Mary, for your encouragement. I'm feeling very scattered and disorganized right now. I know it will come together eventually. For now, I want more moments of peace and calm. Best to all! Posted by: Diane on October 25, 2003 08:46 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100Janice and Mary, how do you get SB to go into slow motion? Is it done with Mary, those 11/12 year old kids were sooo lucky to have seen "Strictly Ballroom." I'm sure they told their parents they want a copy for themselves...lucky parents! None of those ugly movies that are geared towards them, but one that will inspire, awe, and adore for the rest of their lives. Julie, will look forward to meeting your Uncle George and seeing you again next month at my "Sights and Sounds" program. The dates: November 4th and 6th. You'll hear from me before that...anyone else want to attend? All of you "chickies in my pen" are invited! By the way, have you all seen Queen Latifa lately? She looks her age now,(about 34) since "Chicago" for she had a breast reduction, and lost weight...she's doing commercials and movies, and I keep her very much alive here in our village every time I lipsync "When You're Good to Momma" which I did for that organization last Wednesday. I had to cut out a few of the more raucous lyrics, though. I didn't want to shock some of the ladies in the audience! Hope our dear posters that were under the weather a bit are feeling better. Linda is probably in New York enjoying a well deserved vacation in the Big City. Yes, EC (Ellie, the "Eye By the way, Janice, "Eye Candy For The Masses" certainly could refer to the handsome gents on the Corner also...our Paul, Timmer, and even our Peter, who, even though we don't know what he looks like, expresses himself very handsomely! Love and peace, Grandma Hi Gran Mill, I'd need oxygen and/or be in a body cast for a year if I tried something like that. The remote PAUSES only for so long, then stops. So push the PLAY button again, then PAUSE. I'm not overly familiar with the manly art of remote controlling, and may be doing somethng wrong. I'm sure the blokes here can provide more detailed directions than I can. Seems E. C.'s & my Yanks are backed to the wall because your Marlins beat us on Thursday. We have to win tonight & tomorrow in the house that Ruth built in order to win the series. But we're talking YANKEES here. It is more than doable!! The FISH FRY begins tonight in da Bronx!! You mentioned Irving Berlin in your last post. How did you know that he is my favorite song writer of all time? But, I'm partial to a Gershwin tune from Fred & Ginger's 1937 movie "Shall We Dance": They Can't Take That Away from Me The way you wear you hat The way your smile just beams We man never never meet again on that bumpy road to love The way you hold you knife E. C. means much more than just how one looks. There is the intellectual, emotional, romantic, and spiritual components that together with the physical make someone E. C. And how right you are, the blokes here are all E. C.+++ It doesn't get better than them. It's the sum of the parts and not just what I see. Kat, you go girl and make that new job yours alone. And I do have a down under hurt pride boo-boo bandage with your name on it. Ev, you and your sister are in my thoughts/prayers. Mich/Chi, I'm so layered out this thin gal looks like a house!! It's only thirty friggin'six degrees here today, and I have to go to work for the sixth day in a row to see patients. They're thoughtful though, as most offer this red headed human popsicle a warm drink to thaw out. Peter, you seem to be giving far too much thought to my offer of my color co-ordinated high heels to go with your purple suit because you haven't responded as yet. I have shoes to match anything , so I gottcha covered, babe!! My favorite color is purple, the color of royalty. Sorta fits with my last name! Whit, FAB sculpture on your site!! I read the title of your thesis and felt like the resident dunderhead on PC, because I didn't know what it meant!! Then I read it, and have some new insight. Thanks. So much talent on PC, and I humbly say that anything I do pales next to all here, but my elbows are up, head is high, and feet are moving forward. ILLEGITIMATI CORBORUNDUM: Don't let the bastards grind you down! I'm loving you all thoughout your day. Good for you Kat! I'm happy things are going well for you. Grandma Mil - re: the slow motion. On my DVD player, it works by pressing the 'Systems Menu' button (a tool bar appears at the top of the screen), scrolling across and across again - until you come to a symbol something like a bow-tie on its side and then pressing the down arrow. You see a zero and to the right - fractions - one-eight, one quarter and one half. These represent the different speeds you can choose. The grace, elegance and beauty of the dance moves are heightened when watching it in slow motion, I think, as Janice and Katalina have said. Another angle on the experience of watching the film. My class absolutely loved SB. I felt that they would enjoy watching it alright but I was amazed at how much they got from it. I had taught them the 'proverb' - Vivir con miedo.. - a couple of weeks beforehand and I really enjoyed watching their reactions when they realized it was from the film. We had a long discussion after it - well, they talked and I listened - and this was followed by a unanimous request to watch the film a second time. I had to promise that I would show it again before the end of term. I have been teaching this age group for a long time now but I can honestly say, that with each new group, I continue to be surprised, delighted and refreshed by who they are and what they think and what they're capable of. I think some of my best teachers have been my students. Take care all. Whitney, Thanks for the input. Janice, I'm not so sure the high heels would suit me. Heavy black boots with chunky bold buckels - maybe, no. I've got it: purple running shoes. Yes, that's definitely it. Looks and function combined. To all PC'ers: have a wonderful week. My theme song for this week (and every week): Stayin' Alive. I meant: buckles! One step at a time. Posted by: Peter on October 27, 2003 04:05 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.63Happy Birthday today to our Evelyn! Hope the day is pleasant and that you get good news about your sister Iris! Love and kisses! Janice and Mary, I now recognize the manner in which you get slo mo on SB. I actually have been doing it for months, except I used my SB DVD and my computer. I use the mouse, and click "pause" on any scene I want, and then rapidly click "step"..I have been able to find all those lovely expressions, etc. and movements. Contact me personally, and I will direct you to my artwork using that method.
She was an amazing woman all her life...a master teacher of first grade teachers, the oldest returning graduate of Hunter College's reunion some time ago, a companion to Ellie's mother for years during the time his mother suffered from dementia, and a master bridge player and a New York Times crossworld puzzle champ. She got a computer at 90, got a high school computer tutor, and was on her way, and gave up driving her car when she was 90, reluctantly, but she knew it was time! We visited with her once a week, for she lived in a retirement facility 20 minutes from us, where she gave seminars to the residents on card making and calligraphy. She sewed my Patsy Cline costume and Ellie's vest to match, and taught our eldest daughter in Israel how to use a sewing machine to bring in extra money, making wedding dresses! Needless to say, Aunt Sarah is sorely missed! Peace and Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 27, 2003 05:32 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.198Hi Gran Mil, Congrats on your Marlins winning the series!! They deserved to win because they played much better than the Yanks. That 23 yr. old little doll out on the mound didn't hurt a bit with his incredible poise and concentration. I'm very partial to catchers, so my other eye was on your Pudge Rodriguez. It's those great thighs in that crouch-me-down position. Tell EC that there's always next year!! Mildred: English, means "Gentle." Peter, I put my lavender running shoes aside just for you. I'd pay a buck to see you in these babies!! Peter: From Greek meaning "A Rock." Ev, HAPPY B'DAY!! You and your sister remain in my thoughts/prayers. Evelyn: From Irish meaning "Life." Miss Mary, good teachers are such a treasure!!..Thanks. Mary: Latin, means "Star of the Sea." ILLEGITMATI CORBORUNDUM. I am loving all PC through your day, Happy Birthday, Evelyn! I hope you've had a delightful day. I also hope that those calming vibes you and Iris experienced mean that good news is on the way. Millie and Elliott, I am sorry for your loss. What a blessing it was to have such a loving and vibrant woman in your lives. I'll be thinking of you all tomorrow. Janice, thanks for the name meanings. I think I'll tape mine to my bathroom mirror, so as to remind myself to seek the divine in myself and everyone. (Meeting with another tutor and my first client tomorrow. Breathe. Breathe. Think divine.) By the way, I'm a Gershwin fan, too. One of my favorite CDs is The Gershwins in Hollywood, Hollywood Bowl Orchestra conducted by John Mauceri with Gregory Hines and Patti Austin. Makes you want to sing and dance and fall in love. Sweet dreams! Posted by: Diane on October 27, 2003 11:43 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100Gram Mil-Sorry to hear of your loss all prayers sent your way during this time of grief. Hi to everyone and Dhiane thanks for the well wishes I am keeping a good attitude and enjoying my time off. way off any topics above, but does anyone have any good baking recipes involving pumpkin? Mercedes Posted by: on October 27, 2003 12:43 PMfrom IP: 172.137.43.48Happy Birthday dear Evelyn! Best wishes, Peter Posted by: Peter on October 27, 2003 01:00 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.74Grandma Mil please tell Ellie I hope he is comforted. Aunt Sarah is continuing her journey and her love will stay with you always. Dearest Grandma, may you and Ellie and your other family members and friends be comforted especially today as you lay to rest such a wonderful person as Aunt Sarah. I know how much she means to all of you, as you spoke often about her and letting goy 5{ l be with you in spirit all day and if you need a hug, someone's shoulder to cry on or to wipe away tears, I'm right next to you! It was so nice talking to you on the phone last night! Thank you all for your birthday wishes. It made a really nice day even more special! Kat, congrats on your job. I hope it will be all that you imagined and then even better than that! Peter, as always, I read your next piece of your story that you shared with greatest interest (when I finally got to it). I hope that you will find inner peace about that which conflicts you and makes your body react so strongly, but your optimism and cheerfullness is inspiring and uplifting. I'm not sure which kind of energy I should send your way, the nerve calming and/or the healing one. I'll send both and a positive shielding love for your trips up north when you pass by your birth Mum's house to make it less painful and stressful for you. Janice, where do you find all the meanings for the names? But what does your name mean? I don't think you included it in the list. Diane, I shall be thinking about you as well today. I know it can be unnerving when you reach out for something new as you are with your new business, but you will do fine and remember, there is a learning curve involved. It takes time to find and develop your own style and to settle down into your "routine" both for the students you will be working with and most of all for yourself. I am excited for you and enjoy the first day for all that it brings to you!!! Okay, I need to get going, but I want to wish ALL of you a wonderful day, hugs to all of you and a bright smile to warm your heart. Inn, just out of curiosity, why does "life" suit me? I've been aware of that meaning of my name for a while,... not sure how to particularly identify with it. So what do you make of the combined meanings of your names as "the way of life of the gray fort"? (creepy music in the background) OK, Kat...Saturday morning, I was sewing in my music room, just turned on the CD player (to listen to what I KNEW was in there--I'd just had it playing the night before) when out comes the soundtrack to JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR!!! (go look at the date of your post). My husband must've been up late studying and listening to HIS music (he played "Judah" in his HS production...and remembers Every. Flipping. Word.) Synchronocity? Or just plain freaking WEIRD? Kat - Good goin' on the toddler tumbling...niiice...wanna babysit?;-) Incidentally, we were at a school function doing crafts with the kids (making tissue ghosts out of lollypops--put a tissue over it, secure with yarn, glue on eyes, tada!) and on the ride home, my 5yr old was in desparate need of a Kleenex. So, I disrobed his "ghost" and he used the tissue for what it's made for, of course. He handed the tissue to my husband and Bill said to him..."What's this called, a 'Boooooger?' ". Well, they cracked up for the next five miles. Boys.(eye roll...but I laughed too...it;s not often he is EVER funny at all when meaning to be) Peter - In my usual English-majorishness...wowza. Not sure that you are actually looking for advice (but when has that EVER kept my mouth shut in the past?) along the lines of that Rolfing...Cranio-sacral therapy...same idea, manipulating a part of the body, but in this case it is with only as much weight as the weight of a nickel (US of course ;-) and the therapist applies it to the back of your head--supposedly re-sets trauma, INCLUDING in-utero stuff. Worth a try, mate. Worth a try. Hey...and take a day off...would ya? I mean a REAL day off...go enjoy yourself. Stroke your bike ;-) Free write in your journal. FINISH THAT DAMNED "I just wanna fly...I'm not that naive..." song for pity's sake it's killin' me! ;-) Try something new. Knit. (Hey! Don't knock it til ya've tried it!) Look up the price of Corriedale sheep over there for me. (Kidding! I already know I can't afford the shipping!) Just enjoy yourself. You deserve it. EVELYN...da-da-da da da daaaaaaa...come on now, hum along...you know the tune! Hope it was an enjoyable day for you. Mine's Wednesday (gotta LOVE us Scorpio women, eh, gents? EH? What? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!! What's THAT supposed to mean?! Well, right back atcha, with bloomin' WARTS then! (ahem) See? We're such delightful people. (you're all nodding your heads with fear in your eyes, aren't you?) Truthfully...we're everything the stars say about us. Times a kajillion. Tim, good luck on the spotting (ooey...that sounds so...I dunno...vaginal. Ugh! Sorry!) ;-) I'm leaving. I am REALLY bringing the board down to an all-time low with an aptitude that only a few of us can achieve (now where is that CAT when I need her? ;-) It's raining silly here. Blecko. I have to play (English Country Dance music--nicey nice stuff from the 1600-1750's mostly, beautiful) music at a college this afternoon for their Jane Austen studies. I'll look like a bedraggled rat when I arrive, but hopefully the students will be too busy learning what a "poussett" and "right-hand star" is. Hopefully! Afterall, it's not about me (or the $100 bucks I make) it's about the MUSIC and the history, right? ;-) Tata...hello to the new posters! Names: "Diane" = "Divine. But of course... ;-) Mercedes: Pumpkins are my specialty! (comes with being a Scorpian witch I guess) This is easy, because it's not really a recipe, but an "idea" that changes everytime I make it, and can be served as a side dish or dessert, or, you can be totally weird like me and eat a dish for breakfast--which is what I just had here at my desk! Cut in quarters or slices and steam pumpkin, acorn, or other squash (can combine what you have on hand, or use several frozen packets--defrosted). Puree or blend this all together. You may want to add marshmallows, more raisins/walnuts to decorate the top and bake in a casserole dish at 375F for 20-25 minutes until it is heated through. Watch the marshmallow topping though if you use it, as that gets brown right about the 18-20 minute mark. Serve hot. Sweet Mil, how blessed Aunt Sarah was to have you and Elliot there: a constant source of love and devotion. And what a full life she lived: computing at 90 among other things. My prayers are with you and Elliot. Hi Julie! Kat, I'm so happy to hear that this was the job for you. Have a latte for me. Congratulations!! Be carful what you ask for Michelle. I just might be in Chicago soon to visit my sister. Meeting you would be fun. I'll let you know when I'm going. Glad to hear Chris is better. They did it backwards with my braces. They removed my wisdom teeth after the braces came off. Janice, thanks for going to my little cyber gallery. I'm working on that site. I made it years ago when I was just learning and it has all sorts of boo boos. I didn't even give dimensions or titles. I'm not trying to sell the stuff, just show it. It takes too much effort to make!! I could never ask for what it's worth to me. And thanks for looking up our names. I've never seen a definition for mine. I wonder where these clear waters are. Certainly not in the banks of the Ohio;) Inn, I agree. Now that I've been catching up on my movies I'm becoming aware of the repeat performances and I do find it interesting watching people grow up in this truncated manor, but it would be cool to see some new mugs. Maybe Hollywood is waiting for us, eh? ;) Mary, you do have lucky students. I only saw this film a few years ago. It would be easy to blame this on my location, but the movie was at the library for years before I saw it. I'm lucky it hadn't been stolen by now. I wouldn't be writing this right now if I hadn't seen it. Oh, Peter I hope you didn't think I was suggesting you were having financial worries. That's just the most common source if the pain is psychosomatic in origin. And I agree on the tennies. Form should follow function in my humble opinion. You don't want to sprain an ankle in that lovely suit. Hang in there Diane. I'm sending peaceful vibes your way and praying for calming days ahead for you. I may have mentioned I was reading an interpretation of the Bhagavad Ghita. It encourages us to see the divine in everything and it has me convinced that the divine inhabits you and everything else in this world. What a fascinating book. Hey Mercedes. I'll see if I can find a pumpkin recipe for you. Are you thinking pies or bread or anything goes? An official Happy Birthday to Ev. Love to Paul and All, Dhi, you're such a rascal today! I'm a scorpio too! Whoever penned the astological descriptions did hit the nail on the head in our case. Regarding Rolphing, I've never tried it, but the method you write about sounds better. Less violent: more soothing. Posted by: Whitney on October 28, 2003 12:03 AMfrom IP: 129.71.190.213Dhi and Evelyn: add me to the list of Scorpio women! (11/8) Happy Bday Evelyn!!!! Grandma Mil: wishing you peace and comfort in regards to the loss of Aunt Sarah. Hey Inn: Howzit going baybay! Thx for the well wishes. Hi to Janice! Have yerself a great day m'dear. Hmmm WWII tactics/strategies....will this involve fighter plane maneuvers? Those poor lil kiddies really won't know what's coming at em then...hehehheh. I'm gonna feel like Snoopy and Woodstock tumbling headlong in somersaults for the great pumpkin sweep tuck and roll maneuver and then race to the car.......aaiiiiiiiiiiiiii! LOL Hi to Peter, Paul, Tim and All at PC today. Mmmmmmmpumpkin bread. yummmmmm. Now for a hot apple cider search. I'm on a mission! :) Katalina Whit: wow another Scorp! this is wild?!! Hugz, My goodness, so many good posts to read - the corner is really busy these days! Grandma Mil: God bless you. So sorry to hear of your loss. Janice: Thanks for listing the meaning of my name along with all the others. I was quite pleased with the result. I just LOVE this type of stuff! So glad you got to watch the dances in SB in slo-mo! They are beautiful, aren't they? I keep telling myself that one day when I have time (HA!) I am going to edit my tape so I can watch the dances whenever I want. We just got a DVD player, which I understand is really great when you want to do freeze frame, slo-mo, etc. Can't wait to try it! Evelyn: Happy B-day and many more! Kat: Congrats on the new job! Hope it's everything you want it to be. Diane: Don't worry about people showing up at your school board meetings. When the spirit moves them, they will come! I hate politics, and since my children are grown, I really don't pay much attention to the local elections except when it comes to raising taxes. Last year the township threatened to close the elementary school where my grandchildren attend and you should see what we did, me included! Needless to say, the school is not closing, so the system does work sometimes... Peter: Don't worry about growing up in the 70's - I LOVED the 70's - disco and all. (I know, shame on me for liking disco!) Loved the moniker - Sally the Lurker. I think it fits me well. Hope everyone is ready for Halloween. It's one of my favorite "holidays". I thought I was the only one who shook off the little rugrats when I went to the pumpkin patch! We have a farm nearby that goes all out for Halloween, so needless to say, by the time I get my pumpkins, corn stalks and hay bales, I'm covered in mud and animal do-do! Forget about what the grandkids look like - can you say rag-a-muffins?? Take care, all. Nice talking to you - Hi, Paul! Sally the Lurker Posted by: Sally on October 28, 2003 02:50 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37Hi All, Kat. Yes, I'm up on fighter/bomber/stealth maneuvers & hardware. First your need GPS to get to the right pumpkin patch. You then have a choice of the F-117A Stealth fighter/bomber. This baby leaves little radar signature. Or you can have the P-51 Mustang which is my little babe & was the best fighter of WW 2. You can also have the B-17, Flying Fortress, the best bomber of WW 2. Who said life isn't about choices?? If you talking Snoopy & WW 1, then how's about the Fokker Trideker like the Red Baron, or a British Sopwith Camel?? These are just a few things in my bag of tricks for your pediatric pumpkin poachers!! If all else fails, a stun gun may be in order. ;-) Gee, maybe it's me but I thought Rolfing was violent barfing after a major drunkfest. In the States, we call it Ralphing, but to the ears sounds the same as Rolfing. Inn, thanks for the meaning of your name. It's beyooteefull!! Ev: My name, Janice, is Hebrew & means "God's Gracious Gift." Yea, right. You should see me early in the morning when I'm looking more like the Devil's Dreck!! I found the name meanings out while trolling the net. I'm holding good thoughts of you and your sister. Gran Mil & EC: Special thougts are with you today. Elbows up, head high, feet moving forward. HAPPY B'DAYS TO OUR SCORPIOS!!!! Janice Posted by: Janice Duke on October 28, 2003 03:02 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224OOPPSS!! Sorry, I didn't spell throughout quite right did I? The NUNS would beat me for that one. Gran Millie, My sincere sympathies for the passing of your Aunt. I wish you and your family strength and peace. Evelyn, It passes. High heels: definitely not! Dhiana, Good advice. My chiropractor specialises in CS therapy. I've already been undergoing it for 5 months. Whit, No worries. Yep, runners (tennies) are the go! Hi Kat. Belated congrats on getting the job. Goodonya. Sally, Be true to the 70's! (and eighties of course). Keep on lurking. It adds mystery and suspense. Janice, Recently I did some colour therapy where I visualised myself as a rock. I was asked to draw it. When the picture was turned upside down, it was clearly a picture of a heart. Cheers to all my friends at PC. Posted by: Peter on October 28, 2003 03:57 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.246I too am a Scorpio! 11-16, I'll keep the year to myself. Thx Peter *grinn* Janice - not sure what era, but what about the SPITFIRE? I love those little planes. They can do craaaaazy tricks!! whoo hooooooo! Hi Inn...'nuther Scorpio baby hmm? Ye..I can relate to hiding the year. I've decided to grow a year younger now each bday year from now on....lol Or at least stay at that perpetual 29...lolol Hmmmm....oh well..I know I'm gonna aim for windsurfing at 80 - maybe by then I'll need to remain in wetsuit attire as opposed to sport bikinis, so as not to frighten young surfers but...at least I'll be doing it! Hugz to PC. Sally: that's cool you are near a farm. Sounds fun! Yep rugrats r kewl. Even in all their boogery, whiny, incessant questions, muddy, puddlesplashin, michievious glory. Seeing the Everyday through those little eyes and bright little minds and loving little hearts just makes it all worthwhile...cuz it turns the ordinary into the Extraordinary. Pretty durned awesome. ;-) Kat Posted by: Katalina on October 28, 2003 07:18 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165Gosh...I'll have to go back and read all the posts. Aunt Mil..my heart goes out to you. Loss is so hard, but then as someone said earlier, they are on their way to another destination, No? No one really knows, but you were so fortunate to have such a lovely person in your life and you'll always remember her. All my best and my thoughts are with you and Ellie. Lots to say but no time at the moment. Check in later. peace and love the Timmer Posted by: Tim Hord on October 28, 2003 07:56 AMfrom IP: 216.78.32.190Hi Kat, I LOVE my RAF kids!! And kids are what they were: the average age was nine friggin' teen... So you see, my Spit was capable of far more than "tricks", it did nothing less than help to save the life of an island nation. She could turn tighter than the ME 109 (German fighter), but it lacked the ME 109's fire power. The advantage clearly went to the British because of their brilliant insight & use of RADAR. They were the Home Chain Guard, the electronic sentries/eyes facing Occupied France so the British knew exactly when/how many/and from where the Luftwaffe was taking off and heading for England. The Brits then sent up just enough fighters to take the Nazis on while attempting to preserve their assets as best they could. Robert Watson-Watt and others were instrumental in radar development in the early stages, about 1935, because they could tell which way the winds of war were blowing. But their cavity magnetron was brought to the U. S. to M. I. T. for our ability to mass produce it. The Nazis failed to see the value of radar at the time, but did go on to produce and use it effectively. They and the Allies also had ECM.'s electronic counter measures
The Brits maintained air dominance/superiority causing the Nazis to cancel their plans to invade Great Britian (Operation Sea Lion.) Hitler then turned his eyes to the East, and Operation Barbarossa (invasion of Russia) began. Then the REAL smackdown of the Nazis commenced. See, all you did was mention the single word "Spits", and I go to hell with myself in a handbasket of my own making. I live/breathe history. Do NOT get me started on the P-51 Mustang!! To answer an earlier question of yours: how do I measure in cubits?? If you multiply say "2" x "2" x "2", you will cube it.. ;-) I have my own personal plan for the pumpkin patch dilemma: I'm donning my Madonna bullett bra, flack undies, camo tights, & stillettos. Babe-o-licious visual or not???? Oh, yes, RPG in my hip holster. I never leave home without it. Works for me!! Keep those history topics coming!! Elbows up, head high, feet moving forward. Janice Posted by: Janice Duke on October 28, 2003 08:28 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224ON the topic of names I finally found out what mine meant- "Queen of mercy" latin word. I get alot of jokes thrown at me about it and being the queen of mercy, i let it go. But anyway I am not a scorpio instead I am the confused split personality, Gemini. As for scorpios I do know, very sexual people, interesting. Ohh would love to be in a Jane Austen studies class, sounds like so much fun. (i am a geek) As for pumpkin, I am looking for bread recipes I find it so yummy. zuchini bread too while i think of it. I decided to for Halloween to dress up as Napoleon, I am not sure why, but the costume was such a blast that I could not resist. (yes I know dork, dork,dork) Happy day, got commissioned for a painting and I have three weeks to do it, nervous but excited all at once. Now to get the creative juices flowing....umm pumpkin bread. Mercedes Posted by: mercedes on October 28, 2003 11:38 AMfrom IP: 172.173.249.82To Everyone: Thank you for all your lovely expressions of condolences on the loss of our Aunt Sarah. We will always hold the memories of her close to our hearts. I believe now that we all have a big concern with our dear Diane and her family, for I learned this a.m. that her area may be in the path of those horrible fires in California! I pray that she and her family and their home are safe...the winds seemed to have calmed a bit, Peace and Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 28, 2003 05:51 PMfrom IP: 67.75.94.6It's a beautiful Autumn day here and instead of catching up on all the jobs I promised myself I would do during my mid-term week off, I have been spending the day slowing down and relaxing. It feels SO good and there's always tomorrow (or the next day!). Peter - re: the 70's, I spent my teenage years there and NOTHING makes me feel as young at heart as listening to the music from then. It's like pressing a button and going back in time. Disco music has such a special energy. And if I hear a David Cassidy song - I still melt. (I can't believe I just admitted that!) Grandma Mil - So sorry to hear about the passing of Ellie's Aunt Sarah but heartened to hear of someone who lived their life to the full to such a great age. I would love to see your artwork on SB but am not sure how to contact you personally. Is it through the Yahoo site? Janice - thanks for the meaning of my name. Your obvious love of History reminded me of my uncle who died five years ago. He was fascinated, like you , with anything historical and, like you, had the facts at his disposal with it. He was such an interesting person. I love when something possesses your interest like that. It makes your mind feel so alive. To all the Scorpios here - Evelyn, Dhiana (Wednesday?), Whitney, Katalina, Innussiq - a group Birthday wish!!! I can't claim to be one but I did give birth to one (another Paul) and he turns 17 on Friday - Halloween. He is very much an individual and very strong-willed but all the time now I am getting glimpses of the adult he is becoming and I like what I see. I am finding it a very different experience having young adults for children (my other son is 21). It is fascinating to see them grow into themselves. As a parent, however, I'm afraid I'm still learning! Diane - you're in my thoughts at the moment. I really hope that things go well for you in your new venture. I seem to remember a couple of past posts/comments that might help. One was a quote you gave from a former American President (I'm not sure which one) and the other was advice that Paul's Mum gave him about life. The gist of both was that the most important things in life were persistence, perseverence, determination and patience and that sticking to these is what brings success. (I hope I'm not misquoting here!) Keep believing in what you are doing and it will come right. Good luck. Whitney - I agree about my students being lucky to see SB at such a young age. I'm so glad it made the impression on them that it did. With regards to yourself - better late than never! Innussiq - I know what you mean about feeling safe to open up here but rather than hiding yourself, do you not think that you're actually doing the opposite? I mean you are able to be the person that you are in essence here without any of the restrictions of worrying about other people's perceptions of what you look like on the outside. Finally - Mercedes - good luck with the painting! Good wishes to Paul and to everyone here.
Grandma Mil I wanted to express my condolences also for Aunt Sarah. From the way you describe her she must have been one terrific lady who never stopped challenging herself and continued to add zest to her life by keeping an open mind and always learning something new. Her transition leaves a legacy that we can all learn from. Good wishes to all! Posted by: Julie on October 28, 2003 10:17 PMfrom IP: 63.239.112.241Julie, you were right on the mark about our Aunt Sarah. She was a teacher, but never shirked from Mary, go to Paul's Corner homepage, go to the right, to the purple area, scroll down past "Guestbook" to "Fan work" click, and you will bring up "Grandma Mildred's collages" of "Strictly Ballroom". I thank Cat for putting them up! I used the technique of pausing the action of the DVD on my computer, and then advancing using "step" with the mouse. Also, it does not hurt to have a digital camera and a great printing program! In one collage, not in this collection, I caught Tara's gorgeous red shoes in action during the paso doble. Peace and Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 29, 2003 01:59 AMfrom IP: 67.75.94.6Prayers/thoughts for safety, refuge and comfort to all those in So. CAL and all affected areas (Mexico too) right now. Peace and Love Echoing Kat's thoughts re the bushfires. Just a while back I was listening to the radio and a "report" (for want of a better description) came on about the bushfires in California. It stated that Leonardo DiCaprio (is that how he spells it?) is currently making a movie there, and that part of a movie set was destroyed by the fire. Not one single mention of the thousands of other locals threatened by this tradgedy. No, not one. Did this media person have their priorities screwed? I believe so. Personally I couldn't give a rats' about the precious movie set. My thoughts go out to those who deserve it. Posted by: Peter on October 29, 2003 10:40 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.185Peter-You are right on about your opinion of the media reporting the movie set. Over 1600 homes burned and that alone is sad to hear. All my prayers to Diane and family. Mercedes Posted by: Mercedes on October 29, 2003 11:22 AMfrom IP: 172.200.61.85Mercedes, I was unaware that the devastation was on that scale. Diane, I dearly hope that you can remain safe from the fires. Best thoughts and wishes for your wellbeing and safety. Posted by: Peter on October 29, 2003 11:30 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.146Adding to the prayer list.. A Different Prayer Focus Thank you all for your prayers and concerns for me and my family. I will join you in offering prayers for everyone who has been affected by this disaster. We are still safe at this point. The winds shifted today and brought the fire into our valley. We could see the flames and smoke of the Piru and Val Verde fires from our deck on Sunday night. The sky was relatively clear until about 3 p.m. today when the valley filled with smoke and ash rained down on us. As of 10 p.m. the winds have died down, the moist air is moving in and the homes in Stevenson Ranch, just a few miles southwest of us, are untouched. Many were evacuated to the local community college. We have friends who live in that section of the valley and also in the Porter Ranch and Chatsworth areas of the San Fernando Valley that have been threatened for the past two days. It's incredibly sad what has happened here. Reports state that the fires are covering 400 square miles (the size of Rhode Island), 1500 homes have burned to the ground, and more than a dozen people have lost their lives. As I drove around to an appointment in the late afternoon, a radio sportscaster ripped into Kobe Bryant and Shaqeel O'Neil for arguing about something. "Shame on you" he said. "People's lives are being destroyed in these wildfires and all you can think of is yourselves and your petty arguments." I don't know what the two sports figures are squabbling about, but I know how that sportscaster feels. My sons asked me if the fire could reach us. Yes it could, I told them; although at this point that's not likely. Still, I suggested they look around their rooms tonight to decide what they would like to take with them if we do have to pack up. For me, I looked around and decided to start giving away what I don't absolutely love. The rest is just stuff. Love and prayers to you and all who are suffering tonight, Diane Dearest Diane, you made my day! I was up at 4:00 a.m. and found your letter, and what a relief! I am certain that all the prayers sent your way worked so far, and may you and your family, and all your neighbors, remain far, far, away from this castastrophe. I had called Margie in Torrence twice, and she assured me that she thought you were okay in your area, but I had to hear it from you. Margie too, is okay, thank God. She lives closer to the ocean. Please, please keep in touch with us...oh, my blood pressure! (Actually, with my recent weight loss, it's really been the best in years!) Love to you and your family! Give them lots of hugs of joy from Grandma! Mil Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 29, 2003 05:38 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.102Diane - SO glad you and yours are safe. And you're right, it IS just "stuff"...emotional attachments to inanimate objects seems crazy, but I have some too. I chopped out a LOT last spring (went a bit insane with Spring Cleaning...a pre-menstrual kind of insane, yikes!) and had a huge sale. What didn't sell I gave away to a local daycare and church for their bazarre. Good luck to you and your family. WHAT? There are THIS many Scorpio women in one room and there are no hair pulling cat fights? Why, I'm ASHAMED of you girls! Well, actually, it's probably because Paul and the other good-looking men are in the room too, so we're trying to be on our best behaviour. Could it be? ;-) PS. What? Scorpios..."sexual" creatures? Really? I hadn't heard that...(cough cough, sputter sputter...) Happy Birthday to me...Happy Birthday to me...;-) Posted by: Dhiana on October 29, 2003 07:32 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59Hello All, Diana, I'm glad to hear that you and your family were able to avoid the fires so far. My thoughts are with you. Remember the important thing is that your family is safe, if anything should happen god forbid, and if you do loose some "stuff" you can always rebuild new memories with your family. Easier said than done I guess. Dhiana, I'm shocked! For me personally I never hesitate to behave badly no matter who's in the room! Especially if there are good looking men. Alright, enough of my sarcasm. Please for your birthday be relentless, dance on a table top, and do something really crazy! Hello to the fantastic Grandma Mil! good wishes to all Posted by: julie on October 29, 2003 11:31 PMfrom IP: 63.239.112.241Dhiana, Happy birthday. Make it a good one. On second thoughts, make it a great one. Many happy returns, Peter Posted by: Peter on October 30, 2003 01:14 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.99Oh Dhiana, BTW: I'm a Capricorn. I was to be due mid February, but my stay was cut short. Does this have any bearing on star signs, or is it only the day on which you were actually born?
So Peter, are you planning to join the misbehaving? good wishes to all Diane: glad you and your family are staying safe. still sending safe thoughts and prayers your way. Peter: I heard that same media radio report and I felt the exact same way about it. What ass-backwards priorities! That was insanely stupid in my book. WAKEUP people!!! Lady/Goddess Dhi: so we're supposed to scritchy-scratch each other up eh? lolol meoooooooorwl! Inn: i loved your quote...I sent it on to some others I know....awesome! (bigHug to you today my dear!) Hi Grandma!!! *smile* Kat Peter: My sis is a Capricorn. Very cool sign. Kat Posted by: Katalina on October 30, 2003 03:48 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165Hi, back to our beautiful Julie, Happy Birthday to our Goddess Dhi, and a smile to you too, Kat! I'm still in a tizzy over our Diane. Although earlier in the day it looked like her area was spared the horrendous fires, the fire line has crept up to Stevenson Ranch, just a few miles from her, but maybe she and the family will still be okay. Prayers, folks! By the way, I am an Aquarius, (Jan. 20th) which is close to Capricorn, right? (Frankly, my dear, I don't give a ....) Peace and Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 30, 2003 06:00 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.102We're still hanging in there, Millie. The Interstate 5 freeway was shut down from State Route 14 to S.R. 126, and the surface streets were in gridlock. In the latest news, the fire is under control again in Stevenson Ranch and Sunset Point. It didn't hop the freeway, as feared earlier. They did, however, evacuate people from the area and ash is still blowing through the valley. As for the other firestorms, 3 firefighters have died within the last hour in San Diego County near Julian, an historic old gold mining town. Governor Davis says the cost to California stands at $2 billion. At least our Insurance Commissioner is making regular announcements guiding people to the appropriate resources and warning them of scam artists. On a lighter note, Happy Birthday to all you Scorpio Gals! My oldest brother is a Scorpio and you are indeed a sexually charged lot. Peter, my oldest son is a Capricorn. I think you guys are fascinating. With the smokey air and gloomy sky, my sinuses are in an uproar and I'm feeling very disoriented and sluggish. Nevertheless, I have work to do. I'll keep you updated. Posted by: Diane on October 30, 2003 06:39 AMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100Janice, I think that was ralphing. My early college years are a blur, but Ralph and I met a few times as I recall. Mercedes, congrats on the commission! Do you paint in oils? I got a doggy portrait commission this month (pastels) and the deposit paid my rent. Now I just have to do the darn thing to get the rest of the cash. I send artistic motivational vibes your way. Please send some back to me. Inn, I'm 11/17!!! And Amen to your prayer. Beautiful thoughts. God bless you for sharing that. Diane, I'm keeping you in my prayers. Dhiana, Happy Birthday!!! And definitely go out there and shake up the neighborhood! Grandma Mil, I'm always thrilled to hear about your health improvements. You're my role model in so many ways. Hi to Peter, Paul, Tim, Kat, Linda, Julie, Evelyn, Mary and All on the Corner. Hey Whit, that's cool that we are just a day apart. A friend of mine sent the prayer and I just had to pass it along. Happy Birthday Dhiana! Dhiana, hope you are having a--now what was it that we scorpio ladies are supposed to be???---ahhmmm, a sexually charged ..., and for you also nutty, pumpkin-filled birthday!!! Hope you had fun! And as you so kindly serenade me, I shall do the same in German: Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you .... nope, I didn't pick "the wrong language" we just use this song as well, although there are German ones as well, such as "Viel Glück und viel Segen auf all deinen Wegen, Gesundheit und Frohsinn sei auch mit dabei." How about using your college education for ahmmm dare I say it--yep--something useful to find out what that means? Diane, I'm so glad you are (still) okay. I watch the news in absolute horror and whenever I see the pics, it seems like something out of a movie, special effects and all and then I remind myself that this is real. Stay safe and may there be sufficient rain in your area to put out the fires. A friend's Mum-in law's house is a complete loss to the fire. She's fine, but she was going to move to a different state and sell the house in about 3 months and now nothing to be sold or take with her. Inn that was a beautiful prayer. I'll save it. Thanks for that perspective. Thanks for giving me your thoughts as to how 'life" is fitting name for me. You have very different associations than I do and I like yours a heck lot more than mine. I've always been told that it means mother of all that is alive--linked to the biblical Eve, and somehow that feels like too much of a responsibility and not so much a reference to being full of life which I think is where you put the emphasis, although at the end of the day, I don't feel so upbeat either. Just dog-gone tired. Where is Paul hiding? Hopefully in a very fun place! Hope you are fine. Love to Grandma, Whit, Inn, Kat, Peter, Tim, Diane, Dhiana, Janice, Sally, Julie, Mercedes, Mary, Michelle, bluedog, Brian, Claire, Gerg, Karyn and last but not least to Paul and your family (and everyone else whom I forgot or who is lurking on this site... "hi") Posted by: Evelyn on October 30, 2003 09:29 AMfrom IP: 134.84.254.141Ps. I thank that we scorpio-sexually charged birthday ladies [glad it wasn't me who said that first] should NOT have a "cat" fight, but instead go out for a cyberdrink. Can we be that co-ordinated and go out at the same time this month and celebrate ourselves??? Okay, anyone else can tag along if they wish to. Posted by: Evelyn on October 30, 2003 09:34 AMfrom IP: 134.84.254.141Diane..hang in there. My thoughts are with you. Dhiana..Happy Birthday...go shake ya boody. On a darker note...today I got a call from the 17 year old that works our front desk in the evenings. She was very drugged up...I could hardly understand her. She told me she od'd (overdosed)..I freaked out on the phone...but I finally understood that she did it last night. Before it was too late she called her dad. She ended up at the hospital and they pumped her stomach. She's gonna be ok. The shock to my system was quivering...then I reflected back to myself in February. It brings tears to my eyes now. The people that would have been left behind. Today would have been a day from hell had she not decided to call her dad. She's a senior in high school, 4.0 student taking AP classes which are giving her alittle trouble. She broke up with her boyfriend while her parents were in London a week or so ago. The background is her parents live in Country Club of the South where Whitney Houston has a house and the like. Extremely wealthy. I spoke with her mother and went over and saw her this afternoon. I actually got to comfort her mom and her. It's very emotionally harsh. So here's where the shit hits the fan. I tell the owners that she called in and the reason. The replies..Oh great..I'm going to have to talk to her when she gets back...she's just a slacker..we really don't need her. (not true..while working with her it's been hard to keep her busy cause she works so fast) the woman said great we don't need her what'd she od on aspirin? Are harder hearts out there? other than those on death row? I almost threw up..I mean come on...get real people. They are so self serving. S I C K. Thanks peace and love Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on October 30, 2003 09:54 AMfrom IP: 216.78.46.226Diane-Good to hear your family is ok, but this situation in CA is heartbreaking over 2000 homes burned and on top of that people have to watch for scam artists. Prayers to your family and the people enduring this tragedy and a prayer to Tim's friend Mitra, people can be so heartless so I am sending good vibe that things work out. Whitney- I paint with oils, love them but for this piece I am going to use acrylic.I am doing a painting for an athletic association and I dont really paint athletes so I am working on a million sketches, I definitely need creative vibes. I am sending creative vibes your way as well. :) Hi Grandma Mil, congrats on weight loss not an easy thing to do but your determination is aspiring. Good nite/day to all at PC Posted by: Mercedes on October 30, 2003 12:12 PMfrom IP: 172.151.23.84Diane, I'm watching CNN closely this early a.m. (Wednesday) and it seems like Stevenson Ranch may be saved after all..our love and thoughts are with you!! Timmer, how fortunate that Mitra has you on her side! Hope she is able to go back to work...yes, some people are incredibly heartless, but then, there are those, like you, with a heart of gold. I have been pulled into politics in our village..a friend of ours asked me to be on the ballot with him, as his alternate, in our village community council. I only said OK because he promised that if he is re-elected, I would never have to attend those boring and obnoxious meetings, for he never has missed one! Frankly, I would rather be dancing or singing, which I cannot do anyway! Thanks to Evelyn, I have counted, with Paul, 21 PCers...if I'm wrong, it's because I had a senior moment, or I never was very good in math.. Peace and love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 30, 2003 05:33 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.211The Day After: Well, THANK you all for the well-wishes! But I don't think locking myself in my music room to sew and listen to Yo-Yo Ma counts as "whooping it up" OR "shaking my boody", does it? Drat. I used to be SO much fun! I guess I just get my kicks in other ways now...plus I had just found out two hours earlier that the costumes for the 6yr old's musical were due FIVE days before I THOUGHT they were due, so I had to scramble. His basic costume is done (interpretation: he won't be naked AND he would pass for an Indian child. Mostly.) but the embellishments go on Saturday. (Fabric paint and rubber stamps are my FRIENDS! I may need rehab from the stink of acrylic, but at least the child can show up at Sunday's rehearsal with a complete outfit. Oh SHIT! Shoes! Mocassins! Oh crapalmighty...) Emergency call into spouse for funds. I am NOT making those suckers, we're gonna have to settle for Walmart. GOD how could I forget the kid's SHOES???? Nice mother...oh holy horse feathers... Scorpio Spaz Sore From Stitching Posted by: Dhiana on October 30, 2003 08:52 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59Correction, Diane, it is THURSDAY a.m. Wednesday is long gone, and it's another senior moment. Now it's 8:00 a.m. and hope things are holding steady in your area! Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 30, 2003 08:56 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.211Hey Janice, There I was, thinking nice thoughts about you for looking up the meaning of my name and next thing I know, I find out you’re a WWII history buff too! Not only that but you understand about the P-51 and “get” the British role in WWII. (for “get”, read “agree with me about”). Now I hope you’ll forgive me but I typed your name into Google and out popped “Proud daughter of John J. Duke, Patton's Third Army Corps of Engineers”. Was he at the Rhein? I’m sure the 3rd Engineers did lots of good stuff, but I only know about the crossing. (There was some good work done that day.) Brian PS Dhiana, I just finished helping decorate my kids’ Halloween costumes so I know where you’re coming from. Good Morning All, Grandma Mil, I wish you lots of luck with the election. I think that you have a great thing going at Wynmoor Village with your productions, especially the talent show comming up soon. You keep the community there 'dancing in their hearts' and thats a very important contribution. Dhiana, you poor woman at the sewing machine! And having to go fight the crowds at Walmart! AHHHHHHH! What has happened to those adventurous times when you could run out of the house any time you wanted, go to some retreat at a restaurant or a quiet corner of a bookstore, wearing Calvin Cline Jeans while talking to a tall and handsome stranger over expresso. Good Wishes to All,
Evelyn, you may be dog tired at the end of a day but just think of how rich your soul feels. A hard day is filled with learning and accomplishments even if we don't see it that way sometimes. Hi Brian, Many of my patients are veterans, both male and female of different wars. I love them all and always thank them for their military service. What I do for them pales next to what they have done for me. They have given me the greatest gift one can have: Freedom. Thanks for thinking that Dad and all the others did good work that day. All the Allies did an exceptional job to liberate the enslaved people & countries of Europe, Asia, and Africa. Great Heroes All!! Yes, I believe I "get" the British participation in the war. They stood alone, and stood fast against the Nazis. Great courage & tenacity. Then again, I'm not surprised as they were lead by the "Lion of England." You are forgiven for "Googling" me, as long as you weren't oogling me at the same time!! ;-) Peter: I have no problem with rocks either in your head or your heart. It's when you have bats in your belfry that I'll make a medical home visit. Gran Mil: Good luck with your election. I hope EC is having a better day today. Diane: I carry you and your family closerthanthis in my heart. My light of protection is around you. Whit: your just far too talented for one person. Ev: Positive power is sent to you and your sister. If you need me, do it. I, too, had made many a "contribution to the porcelain god" myself. AKA Ralphing. Ah, the good ole days!! Dhiana: aren't you glad that Halloween is but once a year??? Booooger made me laugh, but does it surprise you that most men remain perpetual adolesents?? Inn: Thanks for the beautiful prayer. Timster: you're a guardian angel. Keep on with your heavenly work, and earning your wings. Loving you all through your day, Brian, Kind Regards, Happy Bday Dhiana!! (((hug))) Hi Inn baybay...that 50's outfit sounds great! Tim: that was good of you to visit that poor girl and her mom. I'm sure they appreciated your support. yes, it did sound heartless from the owners...unbelievable. my heartfelt wishes go out to your coworker and family. With good friends like you I am sure they will pull through and heal. (superHug) Warm wishes to all at PC this pre-Halloweenie day. Kat Posted by: Katalina on October 31, 2003 03:05 AMfrom IP: 128.208.106.165Happy Birthday to all you Scorpions! (Oops, that doesn't sound right - Scorpios??) Anyway, Happy B-day to Inn, Dhiana, Evelyn, Whit and Kat. Hope I didn't miss anyone. I'm a Pisces myself - March 16th. Diane: Hope you're still safe. I get chills when I see the news, knowing you are so close. Your attitude about the whole thing amazes me and made me think. We all have STUFF and it can be replaced. Thanks for the wake up! I'm not worried about STUFF any more... Tim: Mitra is so lucky to have you in her life at this time. We all need an angel to hold us up once in a while. Gran Mil: You go girl! Good luck in the elections. Dhiana: How did the costume come out? I had a heck of a time trying to accessorize the grandkid's costumes. Making them wasn't the problem, finding a microphone to go with the rock star and a "magic" wand to go with the wizard got me! Long live Wal-mart!! I can always find what I need there. Boy, I'd love to see us all together in a cyber-chat! I'll bring the cyber-coffee... Julie: I like your idea of expresso and picking up handsome strangers, too. Do you know you can hang out at Starbucks in Border's Bookstore and do the same thing? Janice: Your knowledge of all things military amazes me! I always learn something new after reading your posts. Hi to Peter, Mercedes, Mary, Karen, Lisa, Brian, Paul and everyone else in the Corner! Hope I didn't miss anyone. Take care. Sally the Lurker Posted by: Sally on October 31, 2003 03:35 AMfrom IP: 207.239.14.37 Anybody: any improvement in the bush fire situation? I haven't had the opportunity to watch or listen to the news. Janice, No bats in this belfry (or so I am assured). However, you're welcome to bring your little black bag and give me the once over, medically speaking, that is. Hi Peter, I also have Psychiatric experience that I would rather not have had to learn. My son was diagnosed with Schizophrenia, a significant psychiatric illness, at age 18. I also do military research on the net. In my next lifetime, I'd like to teach Military History in a military academy. Me and 5,000 men sounds great to me!! I'm humming Fred & Ginger's "I'm in heaven........." from Cheek to Cheek. I also have an extensive Wedgwood collection about 70-80 + I should say. Antiques up to modern day pieces, so I'm fairly knowledgable as a collector. Anyone have any Wedgwood??? Thanks, Sally, for the compliment. I like many different types of history: film, dance, music, Wedgwood, medicine, military, aircraft, women's Black, Native American to name a few. I live and breathe the HISTORY Channel. In particular, I find the IRregular (untraditional) military forces intriguing. These are the covert military & civilian forces especially during WW 2: The SOE (Special Operations Executive) covert operatives, U. S.'s comparable O. S. S. (Office of Strategic Services), Britain's MI-5, 6, &9: military intell./counterintell/extracting Allies out of enemy hands, British Chindits & our Merrill's Marauders in CBI: China/Burma/India, Kachin Burmese tribal fighters attatched to our OSS to fight the Japanese, Navajo Marine Code Talkers & our Alamo Scouts in the Pacific, U. S. & British Code breakers at Bletchley Park, (I'm loving Alan Turing), Resistance & Partisan fighters, and not to forget the significant contribution of the women of all Allied countries. We would not have won the war without them!! WW 2 was truly a war of science & technology carried out by mostly very young men & women. And the list goes on............. Elbows up, head high, feet moving forward. Janice Posted by: Janice Duke on October 31, 2003 06:14 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224Janice, I'm sorry to hear of your son's condition. Posted by: Peter on October 31, 2003 08:26 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.44Janice, As an Aussi, I’m going to have to add “Z special unit” to your list of WWII covert ops units. They were brave men from Australia and New Zealand, many of whom were ritually beheaded by the Japanese after capture as a sign of respect. And don’t let my "down under" understatement fool you when I say “There was some good work done that day.” For those PCers who might think that being an engineer in the army is a safe, behind the lines type role, Janice’s Dad helped built a huge bridge across the Rhine in one day while under enemy artillery fire and with only light support on the east side. How do you top that off? Well you build a second bridge that night! Oh and then you get a chance to rest because all you have to do now is keep the bridges open while the Luftwaffe try to destroy them. To all those who put their life on the line for others, past and present, I say thanks. There are some fire-fighters out there right now doing it. Could we all do it? Well, like Steven Spielberg said after making Saving Private Ryan, “Just pray you’re never tested”. Posted by: Brian on October 31, 2003 12:39 PMfrom IP: 203.59.125.251My mother’s pathology report came back about four hours ago. All good news. The Doc is adamant that he got it all and there is no spreading. So the next person who asks how her cancer is can be told that “It’s sitting in a hospital storage bin awaiting incineration.” There were four of us in the room when the Doc told her. Her face broke out into a big grin. She kept the smile while we all had a cup of coffee and some muffins at the hospital cafe. Then she excused herself to visit the bathroom. When she came back she was smiling just as hard, but her eyes were red from crying. Brian, so happy about your mother's good news! I can empathize with her relief on hearing the news...please convey my best wishes! Janice, your knowledge about World War 2 is truly awesome! In our retirement community are many World War II vets, men and women. They are now in their middle 70s, 80s, etc., but still put on their patriotic hats on Memorial Day, Pearl Harbor Day, and the 4th of July. Ellie, (EC) missed that one, but served in the Korean War that followed. He had one bad eye, but he was drafted into the Marines anyway, and worked in the PX as a bookkeeper at the Naval Ammunition Depot in Hastings, Nebraska, where my family and I were living for 15 years...did I fall in love with him in that uniform?? All I can say he was then, as now, a stud muffin and EC extraordinare! How lucky can a girl get??) We married after his tour of duty, and that was 50 years ago. Where did the time go? Your brave father and the others that served the cause of freedom truly saved this world from the forces of darkness, but unfortunately, we are again confronted with this again in the fight against terrorism around the world. The American army opened the gates of hell in 1945 (the concentration camps) and out staggered the survivors. Many came to the U.S., others went to Israel. Today, they are elderly, and a goodly number live in our retirement community. One such woman is Lily Zaks. She is a friend of mine, and we talk while we are in the exercise room. Lily survived the most notorious of the extermination camps (Aushwitz) as a young woman. She married in Europe, and came to the United States to start a new life.
Diane, hope you are all safe. Our love and thoughts go out to you and your family. Peace and love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on October 31, 2003 06:50 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.10Hi Peter, Brian: GREAT news about Mom!! If there's anything I can do, let me know. Thanks for being with her, and for being such a good son. Be there and just love her up. I'm sure you know but there was an Aussie Z Force, as well as a Z Special Unit during WW 2. They were two totally separate and distinct commando units. & I saw the Z Force movie with Mel Gibson. Very brave and very young kids, but that is the commonality of war is it not? Only the young as capable of such daring. I'd have to be home by 4 because my ankles swell up!! You are correct in your assessment of Dad's engineering activities in building his bridge across the Rhine. He relates that "we were under murderous German artillery fire from the opposite side of the river," & a shell killed a Lt. who was 10 feet from me." "And then there was the Luftwaffe......" "Keep in mind that the Rhine was considered a natural barrier/not crossable by the Germans because the water was freezing, and the currents were vicious." (The last time that Germany was invaded was by Napoleon.) Allied A/C (aircraft) gained air superiority with my P-51 Mustang (Cadillac of the Skies), but the enemy is THE most dangerous in retreat because they are fighting for their personal & national survival. My P-51 was the first allied fighter that could provide protection for our bombers all the way into the heart of Germany and back. Our 8th/10th Air Forces and British fighter command sustained horrific losses prior to her arrival in 1944. Basically, she was a flying gun platform in a flying gas tank. She flew at more that 400 mph for more than 2,000 miles, & had 3 machine guns in each wing rather than in her fuselage. She also had drop tanks which she could jettison. She was an offensive weapon as well as defensive. When she saw enemy fighters, she would drop her tanks and go out to the fighters before they could get anywhere near our bombers. Amazing kids in our AF, no??? Hermann Goering stated "once I saw the P-51 over Berlin, I knew the jig was up." This from the chucklehead who said that US soldiers were soft, and the only thing we made was good refrigerators. As you may know, she was built in 116 days by Dutch Kindelberger and his workers at North American and was first named "Apache." She was ferried to our border by pilots including our WASP (Women's Air Force Service Pilots similar to Ferry Command in England). The Brits pulled out our Allison engines (which were not suited to high altitude) and replaced them with their high performance Rolls Royce-Packard Merlins which transformed her into the Queen of the Skies that she was. They then renamed her "Mustang." Merlins gave her more altitude, and used 1/2 the fuel of our P-47 Thunderbolt engine. Allied artillery then silenced German fire & Dad says "Patton told us to come and get him when the bridge was completed, & that NO ONE was to cross it without him!" SO, Dad et al go and get him. They follow him out to mid-bridge and Patton unzips his fly and pees into the Rhine saying "I told that Nazi SOB I'd piss in his river!" Great stuff and so Patton. He was such a prima donna. Gran Mil: Miss Lily not only survived those SOB's but she has prevailed!! She's a great hero. I'll make only one slight correction to what you have said. Dad helped to liberate 2 death/extermination camps, one of which was Regensburg which had mostly female inmates. He says that where we put our own Japanese-American citizens were concentration camps. What the Nazis did could not be called anything other that extermination/deaths camps & that the terms can never be interchangeable. Thank EC for his military service. I'm loving my vets, & active military personnel as they do things each and every day in our name that most of us wouldn't walk to the front door to do for ourselves. Dad's generation stepped up to the plate when needed as did EC's, and so it remains today. Please tell those in your community that they are remembered, and in the name of my generation I thank them. They are the most precious of our citizens, and our greatest national treasure. Atleast one firefighter has died fighting fires in California, and several others are injured. May St. Florian, the patron of firefighters hold them safely in his care. They are called "the bravest" for a reason. Elbows up, head high, feet movng forward.
Janice, facinating just facinating to hear about your fathers contribution. Such a insightful history lesson. Yesterday something very suprising happened. I went to bed early last night tired from a hectic day of work and my husband stayed up to watch some TV. I woke up thirsty and went to the kitchen to get something to drink and when I walked through the living room and looked at the TV guess what was playing, SB on the Independent Film Channel. So I stayed up to watch the rest. I am always amazed each time I see that movie how impressive the cast is. Today's Halloween and its been hard to get motivated to do anything, to put a costume together or make those Halloween cookies. For the past three years I haven't dressed up or gone out but this year my husband and I are invited to a Halloween party by one of his collegues at work. So we'll see where the adventure will take us this time. Good wishes to all, Posted by: Julie on October 31, 2003 09:23 PMfrom IP: 63.239.112.241 Janice, sorry to hear about your son. My sister has the same affliction and she is doing well under medication. So it is not all bad. Haven't been on these boards lately and when I am it's usually as a lurker but felt compelled to comment on the article. Hope this finds everyone well. Grandma Mil - your collages are really beautiful. You managed to capture some of my favourite moments in picture form. I am really glad to have them. Evelyn - I hope you are feeling less tired. You and your sister are in my prayers. Brian - glad to hear the news about your Mum. I wish her good health for the future. Diane - so good that you and your family are safe after the last few days. I can only imagine what it must be like for all those affected by the Janice - I wish your son the very best in his life. I also want to thank you for the work that you are doing. My father spent the last three months of his life in a hospice. Before this, the word used to fill me with dread. I couldn't understand how anyone could work with those who were dying without feeling despair and helplessness. I was very naive really. Experiencing the love and compassion that enveloped my Dad, my family and myself during those months was one of the most uplifting and rewarding times of my life. Something that I had dreaded my whole life - losing my Dad - was transformed into something that I remember as being filled with love and togetherness. The medical staff and helpers treated my Dad as if he was their own. The young male nurse who was with us all when he passed over prayed with us and cried with us. I will never forget the experience. So thank you. Sending messages of hope and recovery to Tim's friend Mitra and Paul's friend Richard. And best wishes to Whitney, Sally, Evelyn, Dhiana, Katalina, Michelle, Tim, Julie, Robin, Paul and everyone here.
Paul:" a casting director ....said "Paul Mercurio - can he act?" This person should not be a casting director! It is thier job to know the industry and the talent and I believe the potential of that talent but then that would suppose the casting director would have to have some talent themselves!! Disgraceful!!! Imagine if I turned up to an audition and didnt know my lines or had no idea of the character I was playing!! Get it together!!! Nuff Said." Ha yeh that's pretty dodgy. I saw an interview with Anthony Lapaglia where he was discussing how casting directors are always amazed to find he's Australian & that he finds it a bit disconcerting to have these so called professionals not know anything about him when its their duty to find the right guy for the job. Casting agents seem to think they have all the control so why bother researching - but surely they need to know whose out there! Thank heavens I'm not an actor :) Posted by: Mooke on November 1, 2003 07:54 AMfrom IP: 203.56.41.60Hey ya'll. I'm almost caught up on the messages, but I'm going to just say hi for now and wish Tim's co-worker Mitra well. Her story made me think of that beautiful song from Hair: "How can people be so heartless? How can people be so cold? Easy...." I hope you can help her Tim. Talk about kicking someone when they're down!!!! I just got in from a wild Halloween party. If you didn't come in costume, they dressed you up. I managed to avoid that by coming a little late. Well, my head is starting to ache, but I just had to check in 'cause I love you all. Where the heck is Paul? Busy, busy, busy!! Goodnight to everyone, Good early morn, dear Whit, and all.... Still no word lately from Diane. We pray for the safety of her and her family, and for all those who have suffered losses. Whit, Paul is probably into those intense rehearsals that come before the opening, and in this case, I understand the opening will be New Year's Eve in Melbourne. Can't wait! Here are those lucky Aussies of ours that may be able to see him in person...Peter, Brian, Sarah Lovett and Mookie, you lucky mates! (or is it blokes?) Have a good weekend..Julie, hope to see you and Uncle George on Tuesday, Nov. 4th or Thursday, Nov. 6th...come early, like before. Peace and Love, Grandma Mary, your eloquence in describing the hospice program really touched me. Yes, Janice is truly doing a "mitzvah" which means a "blessed deed." We too were acquainted with the hospice program, for it was administered to our Aunt Sarah before she passed peacefully away last week, in her home. Posted by: Grandma Mil on November 1, 2003 04:42 PMfrom IP: 67.75.86.111Good morning all. Thanks to all for their well wishes for Mitra. Brian so glad to hear your mothers good news. Big Hug to her. Keep up that "PREVENTIVE" care. Aunt Mil...I would dearly love to meet Lily. WWII history mesmerizes me. Everytime I watch a movie about it, I'm in tears, but in awe. The Pianist, Schindlers List etc. Some of those shows on the HISTORY channel. I'm choked up but inspired by the survivors and those that died. What inhumane cruelty these people were subjected to. I'm going to have to plan a trip to Miami. I want to meet my auntie mil and some of your friends. How great would that be? Hope those wildfires in CA are staying clear of Diane. I guess Paul is rehearsing 8as to 12am everyday right now. Hopefully he'll pop in soon and let us know how it's going. Only wishing him well in his GREAT endeavor. Gotta go to the grindstone.. Later everyone peace and love Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on November 1, 2003 07:35 PMfrom IP: 216.78.39.74It's been a while since I posted, but I have been lurking a bit... Right now, I am working full time while my husband takes some time to decide what he wants to be when he grows up. He quit his job in mid-Sept. and then his father took a turn for the worst and passed on. Husband, being custodian/executor has had a lot of resposibilities and duties both financial and legal. He and his sisters are trying to get the family home ready to sell. Kind of an interesting symmetry, because he and I are in the process of selling our house, which is my family home. Tim-many good thoughts for your co-worker! You are a good friend. Millie-what's your take on the musical "The Boyfriend"? I've been asked to audition. Sounds like you will have a full winter season. I hope this finds everyone well on Saturday.... Mary Ellen
We've seen quite a lot of personal suffering of late. Here's a wish for all those in need, no matter how apparently small their suffering may appear. Best wishes for a good weekend to all at PC. Posted by: Peter on November 2, 2003 05:20 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.216Dearest Peter, ...what can one say, except "thank you" for those beautiful words of solice and hope. Timmer, you have an open invitation to visit us in Florida. You would love the seniors here..such diversity, such spirit, and they love the "young ones." Mary Ellen, go for "The Boyfriend." It's charming, ran successfully in England, and should be a hoot, taking place in the 1920s. Peace and love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on November 2, 2003 07:04 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.111Hi Tim, It was easier to die than it was to live because the grief was unbearable! I can honestly say that I teetered on the edge of feeling that it was easier to go than to stay. The only reason to remain was that no one else in the family stepped up to the plate to help, so there was only me. This child did nothing less than save my life. He shows me each and every day what it is to live with humility, grace, dignity, & courage. He is my best teacher and greatest champion. It was his strength that got me through school while working fulltime. I couldn't look him in the face and tell I quit because I was tired, when he has never quite his struggle with his illness. I told him that as he stood with me at graduation. He lives independently of me, and that's a good thing. If I died tomorrow, he would be fine. He is easy to like as a son, & I love him for the fine young man he is. The first several years were the most difficult, & I would cry 360 days a year and be OK the other 5. Now, I'm all right 360, & I tear up the 5. It's a Mom thing I suppose because I carried him for 9 months & gave birth to him, so my relationship with him is unique when compared to the others in his life. When people meet him, including MD's I work with, they can't believe that he is ill. I tell them his IQ is 130, he's not stupid. He has auditory (the most common), visual, tactile, & gustatory hallucinations from the chemical imbalance in his brain. On his worst day, he is smarter than I in my most shining moment. A major part of the history I know, he taught me & not the other way around!! Medication can only help to a point as it attempts to control symptoms, but is not a cure. His illness is life altering, but not life limiting, so for that I am most grateful. There are many people such as those I care for each day that are far more ill than he. Thanks for appreciating what we do at hospice. I know I have the easier job because I visit patients & assess their needs, but I get to leave. The family members have the far harder role, because they have made the conscious choice to stay and provide the physical care for their ill loved one. Talk about heroes!! Peter, Gran Mil, Mary, Mary Ellen, & Inn, thanks for your special thoughts, & know that I hold all of you close in my heart. Elbows up, head high, feet moving forward....always forward. J. P. S.: Timster, don't worry about shedding tears when watching something about WW 2. I cry like a baby every time I see our Marines hoist our flag atop Mt. Suribachi on Iwo Jima or I see the first young man fall on D-Day. And I mean each and every friggin' time!! Tonight I was watching my RAF kids fight the Battle of Britain on the History Channel, and that made me cry too!! My son says "it's a Mom thing!" Posted by: Janice on November 2, 2003 09:11 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224Janice Thanks for the open invite Auntie Mil..I'm going to take you up on it. I need to get out of this horrific city sometime soon. I've been in Atlanta just too many days in a row for feels like 5 years now. Need a serious detour forsome fun. Spring is approaching fast...still hoping for some low airfares. Dammit all I've gained some weight back. It started with my munchies when I got ripped by my boss a couple of weeks ago. Starting over..I haven't gained it all back so that's the good news. I haven't been able to get in touch with Mitra..I'm going to try tomorrow. peace and love to all at pc Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on November 2, 2003 10:10 AMfrom IP: 216.78.34.244Hello, PCers, old and new! Congratulations to your mom for beating the cancer and hugs to your all! My best wishes for continued wellness. Sally, Mary, and Millie — we're fine. The fires are out in our valley. I feel for all those people in San Diego and in San Bernardino who lost their lives or their property through the insane actions of some sociopaths. Six months ago, our deposed Governor Gray Davis asked the Bush Administration for federal funding to clear trees dying from bark beetle infestations. A few days ago, Bush said no to that request. All I can say is, that the wrong man was ousted from office last month. Janice, you and Millie amazing me with the depth and breadth of your knowledge. I've never been good at retaining the kind of detail you can recall. Wow!!! I had a conversation not too long ago with a hospice nurse. She was concerned when she first moved into that area of care, but has since experienced a beauty and peace in serving the dying. Another friend is in the nursing program and really feels she has the calling to serve. She's struggling with some testing right now, so I offer prayers to help her along. I'm sure she'll be a wonderful nurse. Sally, I won't pay a dime to see any Mel Gibson film at this point. Though the film he directed isn't due out until Ash Wednesday, he was disingenuous and even deceitful with the scholars who asked to comment on the script and respectfully disagreed with the accuracy and intent of the material. His father is an anti-Semitic religious fanatic and he is building a church for his father in Malibu. Therefore, until he can prove otherwise, he is, in my book, anti-Semitic. Hugs and sweet dreams to Paul and family and all the lovely people on this site. Posted by: Diane on November 3, 2003 01:31 PMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100My thanks to Peter, Julie, Dhiana, Tim and Evelyn for your good thoughts and wishes. I've been reading posts in between fire alerts and business appointments. Though the unsettling days and my own personal anxious moments, I have appreciated your concern for my well-being. Posted by: Diane on November 3, 2003 01:40 PMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100Dear Diane, Your post made my day! Thank God, you and your family (and your neighbors, I hope) are fine. A lot of prayers were answered! Yes, Bushie did it again, but let's cheer up, his poll numbers as of early this a.m. are way down in all areas...the war, the economy, his personal appeal, and the handling of his job in general. The American public is slowly coming to the realization of what he has done to our dear country. I agree with you about Mel Gibson. His film on the Passion of Christ is bloody, and will fan many hatreds when it is released. I saw some very fast clips of the film some time ago, and heard some comments, pros and cons...the scenes were bloody and controversial. I wonder where his scriptwriters got their info...were they there? Gibson's father is well known for his views on the Holocaust, which he dismisses as "a hoax." My friend, Lily Zaks, who I mentioned before, is one of them. She asked me to introduce a film of a Broadway show that her son, Jerry Zaks, was in, as an actor and singer, before he became a famous Broadway director...(Greg, do you know him?) His latest is "The Little Shop of Horrors" which opened last month. The audience was filled with Yiddish speaking people, many of them Holocaust survivors. The film depicted the life in New York during the turn of the century, when Teddy Roosevelt was President. It is called "Tintypes" and had a delightful ensemble of 5 actors who could sing and dance. Again, wonderful to hear that you are all safe, Diane. Peace and Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on November 3, 2003 05:51 PMfrom IP: 67.75.94.95Diane, I'm very glad to hear that you're OK. Gran Millie, You have to wonder at the motivation of movie producers sometimes. Hi to Mary Ellen, Janice, Tim, Sally, Whitney, Mooke, Mary, Robin, Inn & all. Cheers Posted by: Peter on November 4, 2003 01:15 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.98Now I remember why I quit coming to this site so often. I have always tried to just ignore the remarks made that I disagree with but now I can't. Just because Mel Gibsons dad thinks that the holocaust never existed doesn't mean that Mel Gibson himself does. You can still love your parents and do things for them but not agree with their thinking. As for Bush - he has been a great president. Al Gore never would have been able to handle all the events that have occured over these last 3 years. This country would be a mess. Man I hate getting all worked up at 10:30 in the morning. Posted by: Robin on November 4, 2003 01:29 AMfrom IP: 67.250.140.244Robin, we are all entitled to our opinions and religion and politics can be very controversial. However, in case you haven't noticed, this country is already in a mess... Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on November 4, 2003 04:01 AMfrom IP: 67.75.86.112Yes religion and politics are the two worst subjects to discuss. That's why I usually try to stay out of it - especially on these boards. Yes this country is in a mess but it has been in one long before George W. Bush was elected president. Robin Posted by: Robin on November 4, 2003 05:05 AMfrom IP: 67.250.76.22Politics, history, religion, hummmph. Politics, history, religion (hands behind head, looking up at ceiling. sometimes I think "well". and then, sometimes I think, Oh, well". My favorite film with Leonardo Decaprio-"What's eating Gilbert Grape?" One of my former student's parents owned the grocery store where Johnny Depp worked. Hi everyone! Posted by: Mary Ellen on November 4, 2003 05:56 AMfrom IP: 66.233.95.139Mary Ellen - I wil have to try to remember to sit, think and then say "oh well" whenever the subject of politics comes up. Especially before responding on the boards. Robin hmmm, that's funny I see things in mostly grey with very little black and white. Hi Inn, et al, When Eisenhower went to a death camp in Ohrdruf, Germany in 1945, he ordered Allied film crews & newspaper reporters to come to this camp to document for posterity what had occurred there so in the future people could not revise history. Even the battle hardened Patton vomited when he saw the unbelievable inhumanity he was witnessing Camp guards, as well commanders of the Eisensatzgruppen (special action/death squads) which followed the Wehrmacht (German Army) into Russia in 1941 have given in depth/detailed testimony to this systematic extermination. Does Babi Yar mean anything to any one???? The Nazi's own in depth, detailed written records and films of these premeditated systematic murders screwed them royally at Nuremburg. The Allies only used a few eye witness to the horror, instead, they let the written documents/films which the German's were anal about recording speak for themselves. Only the truly stupid or totally arrogant (my belief) would fully document such heinous acts. This sociopathic behavior from a Christian nation!!! Can you friggin' believe it??? What part of Thou Shalt Not Kill did they not understand?? The NOT or the KILL part? Before someone may ask, NO, I am not Jewish so I have no overt/covert motive, but I'd like to think I'm a decent human being who knows the difference between right and wrong and acts accordingly.
3. Unless one is annointed with magical powers, Elbows up, head high, feet moving forward. J. Posted by: Janice on November 4, 2003 09:47 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224Robin, there are lots of other reasons to visit this site. Most often the discussion is neither political, nor religious. So come by more often. Perhaps 90% of the time, you can remain cool and calm. This reply will, of course, fall into that 10%. (Then I'll be a good girl and return to less provocative subjects.) When I express an opinion on either subject, I am willing to offer specific examples that support my argument. For instance, the magazine Reform Judaism reported that a group of scholars who were invited to evaluate and comment on Mel Gibson's movie, were demeaned and threatened with a lawsuit accusing them of stealing the film's script when their comments did not please the director and producer. Likewise, the current Washington administration is happy to trot out people who support the favored position, while those who voice a dissenting position are muzzled or face retaliation. If you have factual information to counter this, I am happy to hear it. Democracy is supported by meaningful, well-reasoned debate. But that is not my daily experience with religiously and politically conservative Americans. And it is not what we experience when media conservatives lie to the public with impunity. It may surprise you to know that there are Republicans who disagree with the Bush Administration and they are increasingly pressing for truth and accountability. Defend Bush, as you feel you must, but support your assertions with factual information, not platitudes or distortions regurgitated from conservative talking heads. We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming... Posted by: Diane on November 4, 2003 12:24 PMfrom IP: 24.130.221.100Hi folks. Just finished a long day. I am me Please forgive me, my brain is tired. Hello everyone, just wanted to say hello and take that three second brake from writing job application related stuff-- not my favorite kind of writing, but necessary. Peter, I like your poem and have similar sentiments myself--and your brain seems to work just fine, tired or not. Sorry you had such a long day. Hope you get some rest, by the way, I think you should take tomorrow off, because you simply won't take that break on your own. Diane, I'm glad you & your family are safe and unharmed by the fires. For everyone, have a happy and pleasant day! Posted by: Evelyn on November 5, 2003 12:15 AMfrom IP: 128.101.252.233Evelyn, Job application? Please do tell. Cheers all. Posted by: Peter on November 5, 2003 01:49 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.241Ok, Paul and all here, I have a question. I have been reading the messages for awhile and haven't had anything profound to add, but something came up today at school (I teach 3rd grade, 8 year olds turning 9) that I wasn't certain of the answer. It was during math class of all places that this occurred. What do you call male ballet dancers? Do they have another term for them? The kids were working on a math performance task where they had to choose from three predetermined places to visit and how long it took to get to each place was also predetermined. We are working on elapsed time. They had to write about the time they would leave to go to this place and at what time they would arrive. It had to be in paragraph form. We have also been working on good topic sentences and I wanted them to tell me why they would be leaving for this place at the time they chose at the beginning of the paragraph. We were brainstorming abit and one of my boys said he would pick a time after his sister's dance class on Saturday to start his trip. I said that would make a nice time to start, and before we got any further on this the boy says to me....."You know, girls are called ballerinas, what do they call the boys that dance?" Cindy Posted by: Cindy on November 5, 2003 08:01 AMfrom IP: 63.172.169.70 "You know, girls are called Ballerinas, what do they call the boys that dance?" How about "HOT!" (Sorry! So sorry...here we are all political and profound, and yet again, I've reduced it to T & A...oy.) Seriously, I just call them dancers, or ballet dancers and don't make any deference to sex...in that case that is. ;-) Peter, good luck with your presumed vacation! I'll believe it when I see it! (or don't see you for a few days that is...) Glad the project went well. I am currently fighting with a document which is MINE and refuses to let me save it under the same name it's always been. Honestly, computers...be the rage of me. Hugs all, *grinning* Nice answer Dhi, I like it!!! But I can already hear the phones ringing in our school office from parents calling in if I said that. They can't do anything about what I'm thinking though! lol Take care, Cindy, as I went to the ballet Saturday night, I looked in my program and they just had "dancers" there and then listed all the names below it. Not too helpful. I remember the last ballet I went to 2 1/2 weeks ago had a lot more distinctions to the extent that I got confused and wished they had submitted an explanation as to what all the different categories really meant. Needless to say, I don't remember any of them other than Principal dancer ... Peter, what is your major project about that you are working on? Job applications, hmm, well, the job I have right now is a temporary one and I'm looking for a permanent faculty position in German and academic jobs for August 2004 are posted late September 2003 and you have to apply between mid October - mid November, depending on the place and then they sort through their hundred(s of) applications to select up to 9 -10 candidates for a preliminary interviewing process between Dec. 27 - 31 in San Diego at the biggest academic conference in my field and after that they choose 2 - 3 people for an on-campus interview (late January, February, usually 3 days) and then usually make a job offer afterwards (if they can agree on one person!), sometimes they invite more people to campus or do more preliminary interviews if they don't think you clicked with them during the on-campus interviews. Some places want the weirdest combination of job skills which makes me wonder if they really know what it is they want and need ... or if I want to go there. Dhiana, what does the T & A stand for in "I've reduced it to T & A"? Anyway, it seems that you are having fun, even with misbehaving computers :) Bye all, I have some fun writing assignments to grade tonight ... frustrated wives plotting revenge on their husbands to get even and the students made up the revenge suggestions (fictional, but a continuation of a listening exercise we did about a wife and husband argueing) ... this might come in handy at some point, perhaps??? Grinning ... Posted by: Evelyn on November 6, 2003 07:41 AMfrom IP: 128.101.253.27Hi Ev, Gran Mil & EC: Loving you. Diane: Stay safe. Love to all on PC, J. Posted by: Janice Duke on November 6, 2003 08:15 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224Wow lots of comments. Hello to everyone. Como esta? Politics. The govt in the US is completely screwed in my opinion. I think corporate america rules to the degree their over indulgent and overpaid CFOs and CEO's can fund a candidate. then the winner makes everybody on his side happy for awhile. Meanwhile, true issues of the poor, the people that need jobs, the people that need health care...they don't give a rat's ass. Why are we importing half of our goods...I just saw we purchased a plastic shower curtain made in China...why not here? In south Georgia a plant could be set up and employ a whole town? As it is some of these small towns are completely dying and the people are on welfare or other means of income in south georgia that would include drug smuggling...it makes them money.. Like I said screwed. religion? Raised a JW..not one now..not anything. God? There's something out there. Notsure why we're here..but that's another post.. peace and love Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on November 6, 2003 09:34 AMfrom IP: 216.78.44.194Evelyn, Please excuse me if this response sounds strained, but I am a little weary. The project (one of several) is a computer automated electrical pumping system for a bioreactor. What's a bioreactor? Oh, it's a fancy name for a landfill waste dump. In this case the hole is about 200 metres deep and one kilometre across. It will take an estimated 70 years to fill. Stay well, one and all. Posted by: Peter on November 6, 2003 01:35 PMfrom IP: 203.41.31.230Peter, that's not boring that's exciting. I wish the US would look into these alternate energy sources. Lord knows we produce enough garbage! Then we can stop waging war to get our oil. (ooh there's a statement sure to cause a riot). Peter, so proud of what you are doing...the use of methane gas (greenhouse gases) has always been a point of contention between the enviornmentalists and those (the oil producing nations and their political hacks here in the U.S.) who would be deprived of their billions, a lot of which has been used to fund terrorism around the world. With a very cold winter predicted in the north, and energy bills so high, it is a shame that the breakthrough to the use of menthane has faltered in the U.S. Australia is truly blessed to have you as one of its treasures, as we are...another treasure...our Paul, of course, who exudes another type of energy in our lives. Diane, hope you and your family are doing well, and that your business is right on in spite of the tragic circumstances of the wildfires. I appreciated your last post very much. You were very fair and your response very measured! Bless you! I have lost 22 lbs. and a blood test yesterday showed that my cholesterol is 162, down from 245 when I first started dieting and exercising 6 months ago. All the other numbers, HDL, LDL, are all in the normal range...lucky me...got to get in shape for our big trip to Israel to see our children in January. Ellie and I have not seen our eldest daughter and her family in 5 years. It's about time. Paula and her husband have 9 children, and 2 grandchildren, with 2 more grandchildren on the way. The total for EC and me is: From 3 daughters, (two live is the U.S.) we have 12 grandchildren and 2 great-grandchildren with 2 more on the way! Not long ago I sent a copy of "Strictly Ballroom" to the Israeli family, and it seems they all loved it! It's raining and raining here in Florida. I had my November "Sights and Sounds" program Tuesday night, and in spite of the rain, people came out and were so enthralled, they didn't mind that the program was 1 hr. and 45 minutes long! I expect another great audience tonight in spite of the rain...it will give the folks an excuse to get out a bit! Everyone, have a great weekend! Peace and Love, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on November 7, 2003 12:49 AMfrom IP: 67.75.82.227That is AWESOME Aunt Mil... You go!!!!!! love Tim Posted by: Tim Hord on November 7, 2003 01:26 AMfrom IP: 216.78.37.98I'll "go" if you "go" with me, Tim..let's form a little dieting club here on PC...gotta set some realistic goals. I want to be thinner for our big trip, (and my health in general) and you're lookin' mighty good, like a movie star, (like a younger James Garner, who by the way, is back on TV on the show that starred the late John Ritter..what a loss! Anyone else want to join? Peace and Love, Grandma Gran Mil, count me in. I desperately need to do something about my weight. Fortunately, the opportunities to make a change are rapidly increasing. Let's do it! Posted by: Peter on November 7, 2003 04:25 AMfrom IP: 203.41.31.44Hope all is well with everyone. Evelyn - good luck with the job search. I hope the right job finds you. Grandma Mil - hope you are well. Diane - thankful for your safety and that of your family. Innussiq - sending you some positive energy to counteract the cold. Our problem is a kind of 'greyness' that tends to settle over us for the winter months. It can be a real 'downer'. Peter - your work sounds like a very positive thing. I wish you continued success with it. This week has presented me with an opportunity to confront a couple of issues that have been in the background for a while. Trying to gather together the courage to deal with them reminded me of some words I read a while back. They were written by a man called Jerry Arterburn in a book he wrote while he was dying from an Aids-related illness. I suppose I always felt that the presence of fear meant that I was not courageous. His words made a big impact on me. He wrote that courage is 'the art of achievement in the midst of fear. If there were no fear, there would be no need for courage. ...... The courageous defeat fear as they act in the face of its terror.' His own courage was an inspiration. Hello to Janice, Dhiana, Tim, Katalina, Sally, Whitney, Brian, Cindy, Julie, Mary Ellen, Paul and all at PC. Hope things are good for you all. Mary Posted by: Mary on November 7, 2003 04:57 AMfrom IP: 194.165.174.125Hi Mary, et al, Peter: Aren't you just the smartest little thing!! Well I'm awestruck as you describe what it is you do. (I don't pretend to understand it all though.) Gran Mil: Kudos to you for your weight loss & great cholesterol level! Under 200 is what we shoot for. Timster: Great news about Mitra. Keep your focus as you lose weight. My son lost 70 pounds: 10 pounds for 7 months on Weight Watchers, and has maintained this loss for 2 years. His psych. meds. and the stressors of his illness increased his wt. from 145 lbs. when diagnosed up to 220 lbs. He says he needed to examine his relationship with food, and what is represented to him. There are many reasons why we eat, and we need to examine when we eat, what is going on at the time, why we choose what it is what we're eating, etc. Keeping a food journal was helpful to him, as well as making healthier choices of food. It worked for him, and he says portion control is key as is exercise. Hope this helps. My role was to be his cheerleader and strongest supporter. I ate what he ate when he visited so I did not sabotage his healthy eating choices. I had the opposite issue. I am 5'6" and had dropped to 87 lbs, and was so ill that I could not see that I was emaciated. To me, I still had big thighs, and a big ass. Can you imagine???? It's a body dysmorphic thing. I was oblivious to what was painfully obvious to everyone else. Once I was well it because overwhelmingly clear to me. It may be difficult to appreciate, but it was just a much a struggle for me to gain wt., as it is for others to lose it. People may comment now that I am thin, but I tell them that they have no idea what thin really looks like! People made very thoughtless comments to me at that time, just as comments can be made to those that may be overweight. All I ever told my son was that I was concerned for his health. We didn't need anyone to tell him that he weighed more than what was healthy any more than people needed to bring to my attention that I was underweight. Ev: Good thoughts to you and your sister. Diane: I'm keeping you safe in my heart. Loving you ALL through your day. J. Posted by: Janice Duke on November 7, 2003 05:34 AMfrom IP: 24.184.222.224Now, remember, our Evelyn grew up speaking German and by her age, I know for a fact she missed out on the Broadway musical "A Chorus Line", so thanks for explaining it for her. Peter, ok, just STOP making yourself even more endearing to us all with all your spiritual, philosophical, and artistical depths we find out (gasp!) that you've an ENGINEER'S BRAIN too! Eek! Ladies, hide your daughters! Computer Geeks, quick, make yourself irreplacable...Peter could wipe your job right out from underneath you! ;-) Tough work, mate. Glad it's you and not me. BUt all for a good reason...(I meant "environment", but "paycheck" works too.) Back on the Thread Topic-My son's musical opens tonight (and I've a gig in Buffalo, DAMNIT!) and the Director read an article out of the local paper, highlighting (and presumably RECOMMENDING) that the local populus check it out because of all these good things, then would list A) B) and C). Well, the dinkwad who wrote it apparantly is having illusions of grandeur as he freaking CRITIQUED the f'ing thing, saying the male lead's singing voice was--I can't remember the word, I'm so pissed, but it meant "weak"--and the lighting needed to be worked out better, etc. JESUS, Joseph and the Kremlin on a fruitcake, this is a HIGH SCHOOL production, not something Francis Ford Cupola whipped up. I want to personally throttle the imp, but am settling for a very strong letter to the Editor, suggesting this reviewer's role be better defined for him so he doesn't MASH any more 15 yr olds' senses of self-esteem...honestly. I'm fuming. (Can ya tell?) Ok, I'm going to go take a stress-tab. I hear yaPaul, they just won't ever get it right. Ever! IT's their perception not yours and my reality. Plah..and patooey on them. RagWoman Posted by: Dhiana on November 7, 2003 10:26 PMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59Dhi, trust me, the show will be a smash! The audiences are usually family and friends, and like someone once said, "if one of the kids burbs, or worse, the audience will clap with appreciation!" Ellie and I have attended many high school productions in which our children participated, and it was always magical, because those were our kids up there in the spotlight! Good luck to your son, and may I say it, "break a leg!" Peter, darling, if you want to join my weight club, just sign on the dotted line............ You will find a litany of other diets, but this is the one I use, and it is a high protein, no carbohydrates, at least in the first 2 weeks. You could also choose the Atkins, also no carbos. It works while eating luxuriously all the fatty stuff, like cheese, cream, steak, et., no limits. Our daughter lost 6 pounds the first week while having breakfasts of bacon and eggs...I cringed, but if it works, and the cholesterol levels come down along with the weight loss, why should I complain? Millions of Americans are on it, and I'll bet the Aussies are too. The difference between South Beach and Atkins is that South Beach does not recommend high fat stuff, like eggs, bacon, fatty meats, etc. Everything is lean, but amounts are not limited...eat and enjoy! Both diets are great for eating out in restaurants, just don't eat the bread, potatoes, and the desserts! Good luck...if our club thrives, we will have to elect officers...include me out! Love and Peace, Grandma Posted by: Grandma Mil on November 8, 2003 01:07 AMfrom IP: 67.75.94.230Millie, you're right...the show WAS a hit! I cried at curtain-call every time, I was just so PROUD of those kids! *sigh* So, normalcy returns to our house. For two months. Then after the holidays, they ramp up for the Spring production. Eek! "There's NO business like SHOW business, there's NO business I know..." (If I could just get that and "'Cause you can't shoot the herder, they'd holler 'Bloody Murder!' no you can't get a man with a guuuun..." out of my head!) Proud Stage Mama Posted by: Dhiana on November 13, 2003 02:23 AMfrom IP: 64.132.54.59Hi, Paul: At a point, I wanted to shout out that "you are rihgt" because I totally agreed with you. I understood that feeling of being stereotyped, or being financially struggling. However, in the art world, most of artists being famous were luck-striked. Talents have nothing to do with your ability of getting works. Once you chose performancing art as career, you have chosen a hard way to live. Money never goes along with fame. But, if you know the life you chose is the love of your life, stick with that. I know you have. I know you have been truthful to yourself and to your fans. Stick to it. Go along with it. If you love acting, if you love dancing, do your best to find a "paid" work; but at the meantime, find a job that will pay rents (in America, many actors and actresses have regular/day jobs as "waiter/waitress". then, acting is just part-time jobs.) Having a wife who is undestanding and having three kids who are lovely, you already have the whole world. And, you have gotten a group of fans/friends who support you, who can ask for more. So, don't be bothered by what newspaper said. People say anything they want, you should just be yourself. One thing I always said to myself is that "If I 'think' I am lucky, I WILL be lucky; If I 'think' people are mistreating me, my bad luck WILL manifest." Hang in there, nothing is NOT transient. Zhen Posted by: Zhen on November 21, 2003 08:12 AMfrom IP: 161.213.33.130Hi, Paul: At a point, I wanted to shout out that "you are right" because I totally agreed with you. I understood that feeling of being stereotyped, or being financially struggling. However, in the art world, most of artists being famous were luck-striked. Talents have nothing to do with your ability of getting works. Once you chose performancing art as career, you have chosen a hard way to live. Money never goes along with fame. But, if you know the life you chose is the love of your life, stick with that. I know you have. I know you have been truthful to yourself and to your fans. Stick to it. Go along with it. If you love acting, if you love dancing, do your best to find a "paid" work; but at the meantime, find a job that will pay rents (in America, many actors and actresses have regular/day jobs as "waiter/waitress". then, acting is just part-time jobs.) Having a wife who is undestanding and having three kids who are lovely, you already have the whole world. And, you have gotten a group of fans/friends who support you, who can ask for more. So, don't be bothered by what newspaper said. People say anything they want, you should just be yourself. One thing I always said to myself is that "If I 'think' I am lucky, I WILL be lucky; If I 'think' people are mistreating me, my bad luck WILL manifest." Hang in there, nothing is NOT transient. Zhen Posted by: Zhen on November 21, 2003 08:12 AMfrom IP: 161.213.33.130wats da storey wit this website.is it still running coz i've only seen dates since 03 Posted by: danielle on February 6, 2004 12:00 AMfrom IP: 159.134.129.245NOTE: Comments are moderated. You must enter a valid email address--it will not be displayed on the page. Your comment may take a while to show up on the page. Thanks for your patience. Comments on old entries are closed. Please only comment on the current entry. |
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